RE: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
hi, saw this thread while tidying up my mailbox ... I'm the IT Liaison Officer @ the School of Law, Murdoch University in Western Australia. We use a Debian box as a samba fileserver web server, and debian's used by at least two or three other departments here. tks Andrew - Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) IT Officer, School of Law MURDOCH UNIVERSITY Perth, Western Australia Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math -Original Message- From: Charles Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:06 AM To: debian-user Subject: Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations We use debian all over this campus (routers, firewalls, mail servers, web servers, samba servers, etc) and I know that they have at least one debian box in the CS department. Charles Lewis, Director of Adminstrative Computing Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, TX 76059 (817) 556-4720 - phone (360) 397-7952 - fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, I am a Computer Science professor at American University in Washington D.C. I want to recommend that we replace Solaris in our Computer Science department with Debian. In doing so, I know that we will encounter problems wuite specific to the public (as in non-profit, public sector) and academic nature of the enterprise. I want to advocate Debian over RedHat and TurboLinux who are trying to sell into this market. Is there anyone else out there in this kind of organisation, who is using Debian in this kind of environment? Contact me and let's band together! Simon Read -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
Whats the email address for the original poster? I *assume* he wants to be CCed. Gidday I am the network admin at Avonside Girls' High School in Christchurch New Zealand. We currently run two NT servers for main file and print sharing and email based on Exchange. In addition the firewall runs bastard linux - a severely secured distribution a couple of friends brewed up. Our CDROM server is slackware based, but will become debian as soom as I get time to do that. We have a couple of old 486 based debian print servers that do absolutely marvellously. My favourite debian box is the one that replaced an ageing macintosh SE/30 running Macjanet. Its now a P120 running debian, netatalk, samba and webmin for a room of old Mac LCIIs. It can serve PCs as well as Macs now, and goes about 500 times faster. Debian rocks. No other word for it. At 03:05 PM 8/6/00 -0500, you wrote: We use debian all over this campus (routers, firewalls, mail servers, web servers, samba servers, etc) and I know that they have at least one debian box in the CS department. Charles Lewis, Director of Adminstrative Computing Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, TX 76059 (817) 556-4720 - phone (360) 397-7952 - fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, I am a Computer Science professor at American University in Washington D.C. I want to recommend that we replace Solaris in our Computer Science department with Debian. In doing so, I know that we will encounter problems wuite specific to the public (as in non-profit, public sector) and academic nature of the enterprise. I want to advocate Debian over RedHat and TurboLinux who are trying to sell into this market. Is there anyone else out there in this kind of organisation, who is using Debian in this kind of environment? Contact me and let's band together! Simon Read -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Criggie
Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
Here at Monash University in Australia, we use both Solaris and Linux. Solaris is used for most mission critical services, but most of the time we use it because we need the grunty Sun hardware that it comes with it. Linux is being used more and more within the IT department. We've found it especially good for 'farms' of machines (eg web proxies, mail, etc). It's also being used as a 'black box' at remote locations - offers web proxy, DNS, SMTP, etc for people with flaky connections. The two Linux-related projects I'm working with involves two services - web proxy and mail exchanger. The original implementor of the web proxy farm (setup some time ago) chose Redhat for the machines. A couple of years on, and they work - but need quite a lot of hand-holding. The mail exchanger stuff I'm currently working on now involves Debian and Postfix on a bunch of extremely tasty boxes (Intel Hudson servers - RAID cages, hot-swappable power supplies, that sort of thing). Although not in production yet, they've stood up to everything I can throw at them. As far as Linux is concerned, its been very pro-Redhat around here for a while (probably because its the most common) but people are starting to realise that Debian just works and pretty much takes care of itself. Debian is my personal favourite mostly because of the ease of maintenance. I have three Debian workstations on my desk, each with uptimes of over a month, and the only time I've had to reboot is to install a new kernel - never for any other upgrade. It also runs my personal web and mail server. I've also set up Debian for my family (who know nothing outside Windows, and not even that very well) to use as a masquerading gateway. They live over 500km away from me so I only get to visit twice a year. Last time I was there it had been up for over a year, and apparently that was only because someone pulled the wrong plug out of the wall. Debian just works. And if I ever get around to trying Debian Sparc, maybe I can get rid of Solaris on those Sun boxes ;) Regards, Rob. pgpv1dcx1HYcL.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
I forgot to mention that I recently installed Debian on an old Sparc station here after Solaris crashed and burned the root partition on the SCSI drive why will always be a mystery - (and one which I haven't got time to solve). After a few initial installation problems, I got the floppy images to work and the machine has been running smoothly for a couple of weeks now. At the moment it's just running as a Web server ... debian's web space is actually just a bunch of symbolic links to the Web pages on the Sun partitions that weren't f#*#(d after the crash. tks Andrew - Andrew McRobert LLB B.Sc(Comp. Sci) IT Officer, School of Law MURDOCH UNIVERSITY Perth, Western Australia Ph: [+61 8 9360 6479] Fax: [+61 8 9310 6671] e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:39 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations Here at Monash University in Australia, we use both Solaris and Linux. Solaris is used for most mission critical services, but most of the time we use it because we need the grunty Sun hardware that it comes with it. Linux is being used more and more within the IT department. We've found it especially good for 'farms' of machines (eg web proxies, mail, etc). It's also being used as a 'black box' at remote locations - offers web proxy, DNS, SMTP, etc for people with flaky connections. The two Linux-related projects I'm working with involves two services - web proxy and mail exchanger. The original implementor of the web proxy farm (setup some time ago) chose Redhat for the machines. A couple of years on, and they work - but need quite a lot of hand-holding. The mail exchanger stuff I'm currently working on now involves Debian and Postfix on a bunch of extremely tasty boxes (Intel Hudson servers - RAID cages, hot-swappable power supplies, that sort of thing). Although not in production yet, they've stood up to everything I can throw at them. As far as Linux is concerned, its been very pro-Redhat around here for a while (probably because its the most common) but people are starting to realise that Debian just works and pretty much takes care of itself. Debian is my personal favourite mostly because of the ease of maintenance. I have three Debian workstations on my desk, each with uptimes of over a month, and the only time I've had to reboot is to install a new kernel - never for any other upgrade. It also runs my personal web and mail server. I've also set up Debian for my family (who know nothing outside Windows, and not even that very well) to use as a masquerading gateway. They live over 500km away from me so I only get to visit twice a year. Last time I was there it had been up for over a year, and apparently that was only because someone pulled the wrong plug out of the wall. Debian just works. And if I ever get around to trying Debian Sparc, maybe I can get rid of Solaris on those Sun boxes ;) Regards, Rob.
Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
Hi Simon, Charles, and all: I wish you had included the original poster's address so I could CC: him. We have used Debian since the 0.93 days for our servers in the department of computer science. We have a fairly large server (cs.wcu.edu) for mail, web service, and file service to both Lose 9x machines and Debian machines in a lab. I use debian on my personal machines, unless someone pays me to use MS unstable-ware. with debian, unstable = quite stable. --David Teague On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Charles Lewis wrote: We use debian all over this campus (routers, firewalls, mail servers, web servers, samba servers, etc) and I know that they have at least one debian box in the CS department. Charles Lewis, Director of Adminstrative Computing Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, TX 76059 (817) 556-4720 - phone (360) 397-7952 - fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, I am a Computer Science professor at American University in Washington D.C. I want to recommend that we replace Solaris in our Computer Science department with Debian. In doing so, I know that we will encounter problems wuite specific to the public (as in non-profit, public sector) and academic nature of the enterprise. I want to advocate Debian over RedHat and TurboLinux who are trying to sell into this market. Is there anyone else out there in this kind of organisation, who is using Debian in this kind of environment? Contact me and let's band together! Simon Read -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. (I hope this is all of the above.)
Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
We use debian all over this campus (routers, firewalls, mail servers, web servers, samba servers, etc) and I know that they have at least one debian box in the CS department. Charles Lewis, Director of Adminstrative Computing Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, TX 76059 (817) 556-4720 - phone (360) 397-7952 - fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, I am a Computer Science professor at American University in Washington D.C. I want to recommend that we replace Solaris in our Computer Science department with Debian. In doing so, I know that we will encounter problems wuite specific to the public (as in non-profit, public sector) and academic nature of the enterprise. I want to advocate Debian over RedHat and TurboLinux who are trying to sell into this market. Is there anyone else out there in this kind of organisation, who is using Debian in this kind of environment? Contact me and let's band together! Simon Read -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian in Academic and Public Organisations
My only concern is that these are x86 machines, not Sparcs. My experience is that Linux does not run as well as Solaris on the Sparc platform. Specifically, RedHat 6.1 on a SUN4U box doesn't seem to play very nice with the SCSI controller and the entire machine pauses for noticeable periods under moderate disk activity. I've also seen this behaviour from Linux running on x86 motherboards with Via chipsets and UDMA66 drives. Replacing the 80-pin cable with a 40-pin cable clears the problem up nicely. YMMV as always. On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Dr. Simon Read wrote: Folks, I am a Computer Science professor at American University in Washington D.C. I want to recommend that we replace Solaris in our Computer Science department with Debian. In doing so, I know that we will encounter problems wuite specific to the public (as in non-profit, public sector) and academic nature of the enterprise. I want to advocate Debian over RedHat and TurboLinux who are trying to sell into this market. Is there anyone else out there in this kind of organisation, who is using Debian in this kind of environment? Contact me and let's band together! Simon Read -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
