Re: Disk logical backup tools

2008-02-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On Thursday 05 April 2007 06:24, - Tong - wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any tools that can backup disk partitions logically, for both
> Linux & Windoze partitions?

from man ntfsclone:
NTFSCLONE(8)  NTFSCLONE(8)

NAME
   ntfsclone - Efficiently clone, image, restore or rescue an NTFS

part of the ntfsprogs package.

For win32 etc. and linux partitions, I just copy the files. Linux is powerful 
enough to recover/recreate partitions as you need them. 

Partimage has already been suggested; for ntfs I would prefer ntfsclone, 
though. 

> By logical backup I meant, at least the backup tools don't do blind sector
> to sector backup. Ideally it would be something like Norton Ghost. I hope
> I can use it to backup Windoze partitions under Linux, and restore to
> VmWare virtual drives.

Don't know, if this works to restore for VMware.  

HTH,
Johannes


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Re: Disk logical backup tools

2007-04-05 Thread - Tong -
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:24:33 +, - Tong - wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there any tools that can backup disk partitions logically, for both
> Linux & Windoze partitions? ...
> 
> Last time I checked, about a year or two ago, such tools didn't exist
> under Linux... 

Thanks everyone for the respond. 

I tried Partimage before when it was v0.6.2. But by then it was not
totally a logical backup tool. E.g., it insisted that partition size has
to be exactly the same, during back/restore. This is insane. Hope this has
been fixed. Anybody has such positive experience with Partimage?

FYI, here is what I have noted when I tried it:

partition size has to be exactly the same

The partition is too small to be restored: 
Original partition   
size:2097414144 bytes
Destination partition
size:.1052803584 bytes 

I only have 427M used on it, which should well fit into the 1G destination
drive. With this limitation, I think by now partimage is practically
useless.

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Re: Disk logical backup tools

2007-04-05 Thread Guido Heumann
- Tong - schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any tools that can backup disk partitions logically, for both
> Linux & Windoze partitions? 
> 
> By logical backup I meant, at least the backup tools don't do blind sector
> to sector backup. Ideally it would be something like Norton Ghost. I hope
> I can use it to backup Windoze partitions under Linux, and restore to
> VmWare virtual drives. 

Today I was also looking for a disk image tool, and came across this
list of tools:
http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml

I ended up using SystemRescueCD, after trying PiNG (Ping is not Ghost).
Both were based on partimage, and if I remember correctly claimed to
support NTFS via captive driver.

Hope that helps,
Guido


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Re: Disk logical backup tools

2007-04-05 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On Thursday 05 April 2007 06:24, - Tong - wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any tools that can backup disk partitions logically, for both
> Linux & Windoze partitions?

from man ntfsclone:
NTFSCLONE(8)

NAME
   ntfsclone - Efficiently clone, image, restore or rescue an NTFS

It's part of the ntfsprogs package.

For win32 etc. and linux partitions, I just copy the files. Linux is
powerful enough to recover/recreate partitions as you need them.

Partimage has already been suggested; for ntfs I would prefer ntfsclone,
though.

> By logical backup I meant, at least the backup tools don't do blind sector
> to sector backup. Ideally it would be something like Norton Ghost. I hope
> I can use it to backup Windoze partitions under Linux, and restore to
> VmWare virtual drives.

Don't know, if this works to restore for VMware.  

HTH,
Johannes


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Re: Disk logical backup tools

2007-04-05 Thread Wackojacko

- Tong - wrote:

Hi,

Is there any tools that can backup disk partitions logically, for both
Linux & Windoze partitions? 


By logical backup I meant, at least the backup tools don't do blind sector
to sector backup. Ideally it would be something like Norton Ghost. I hope
I can use it to backup Windoze partitions under Linux, and restore to
VmWare virtual drives. 


Last time I checked, about a year or two ago, such tools didn't exist
under Linux... 


thank


Is partimage what your looking for?

aptitude show partimage
Package: partimage
New: yes
State: not installed
Version: 0.6.4-17
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Maintainer: Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Uncompressed Size: 942k
Depends: libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12), 
libnewt0.52, libpam0g (>= 0.76), libslang2 (>= 2.0.6-3), libssl0.9.8 (>=

 0.9.8c-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1)
Conflicts: partimage-server (< 0.6.0), partimage-doc (<= 20020126-6)
Description: backup partitions into a compressed image file
 Partition Image is a partition imaging utility. It has support for the 
following file systems:

 * Ext2/3, the linux standard
 * Reiser3, a journalised and powerful file system
 * FAT16/32, DOS and Windows file systems
 * HPFS, IBM OS/2 file system
 * JFS, journalised file system, from IBM, used on AIX
 * XFS, another journalised and efficient file system, from sgi, used 
on Irix

 * UFS (beta), Unix file system
 * HFS (beta), MacOS File system
 * NTFS (experimental), Windows NT, 2000 and XP
 Only used blocks are copied and stored into an image file. The image 
file can be compressed in the GZIP/BZIP2 formats to save disk space,
 and split into multiple files to be copied onto removable media (ZIP 
for example), burned on a CD-R, etc.


 This makes it possible to save a full Linux/Windows system with a 
single operation. In case of a problem (virus, crash, error, etc.), you
 just have to restore, and after several minutes, your entire system is 
restored (boot, files, etc.), and fully working.


 This is very useful when installing the same software on many 
machines: just install one of them, create an image, and restore the 
image on

 all other machines.

 Homepage: http://www.partimage.org

Tags: admin::backup, interface::commandline, role::program, 
scope::utility, special::not-yet-tagged, special::not-yet-tagged::p,

  works-with::archive

HTH

Wackojacko


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