Re: Doesn't kernel-source packages provides kernel-headers?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul J. Keenan) wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Colin Watson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaul Karl) wrote: It is my understanding that each kernel-source package provides kernel-headers. Yet kernel-source-2.2.14 does not mention it. What am I missing? No, kernel-source doesn't provide kernel headers. However, if you install kernel-package you'll be able to use something like 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_headers' to build yourself a kernel-headers package. (Obviously you'll need fakeroot, dpkg-dev, possibly devscripts, etc.) If kernel-source does not provide kernel-headers, then what files are in kernel-headers that are not provided by kernel-source ? What is their function ? I understood (only from inspection, mind you) that kernel-headers was a subset of kernel-source provide for compiling other program which needed to reference the kernel declarations, but preferred not to compile a whole kernel. Thus it saved them some disk space. Is this wrong ? Subtly, yes; well, your understanding of the function of kernel-headers is pretty accurate, but you're misunderstanding the Provides: line somewhat. kernel-source does indeed provide a superset of the same files as kernel-headers, but the term provide is misleading here, as it's only in the loose sense of contain rather than the stricter sense of the Debian package Provides: line. In particular, the files aren't in quite the same places (the kernel-headers postinst script sets up various symlinks which I'm not sure are in kernel-source). The easiest way to think about it is that kernel-headers is a binary package compiled in a slightly unusual way from the kernel-source source package. Libraries that give you a -dev package are along these lines too, it's just that their source package isn't normally among the binary archives. You might find it less confusing to use something like 'apt-get source kernel-source-2.2.14' to get the kernel-source package, rather than treating it as a binary package. HTH, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doesn't kernel-source packages provides kernel-headers?
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Colin Watson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaul Karl) wrote: It is my understanding that each kernel-source package provides kernel-headers. Yet kernel-source-2.2.14 does not mention it. What am I missing? No, kernel-source doesn't provide kernel headers. However, if you install kernel-package you'll be able to use something like 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_headers' to build yourself a kernel-headers package. (Obviously you'll need fakeroot, dpkg-dev, possibly devscripts, etc.) If your installed kernel is 2.2.12, I think make-kpkg kernel_headers would create kernel-headers package for 2.2.12. It would be a problem if the new kernel is 2.2.13. I think it would be better to get kernel-headers 2.2.13 package (which I have done, so that I can load the correct modules for kernel 2.2.13.) Oki
Re: Doesn't kernel-source packages provides kernel-headers?
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Colin Watson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaul Karl) wrote: It is my understanding that each kernel-source package provides kernel-headers. Yet kernel-source-2.2.14 does not mention it. What am I missing? No, kernel-source doesn't provide kernel headers. However, if you install kernel-package you'll be able to use something like 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_headers' to build yourself a kernel-headers package. (Obviously you'll need fakeroot, dpkg-dev, possibly devscripts, etc.) If kernel-source does not provide kernel-headers, then what files are in kernel-headers that are not provided by kernel-source ? What is their function ? I understood (only from inspection, mind you) that kernel-headers was a subset of kernel-source provide for compiling other program which needed to reference the kernel declarations, but preferred not to compile a whole kernel. Thus it saved them some disk space. Is this wrong ? -- Regards, Paul
Re: Doesn't kernel-source packages provides kernel-headers?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaul Karl) wrote: It is my understanding that each kernel-source package provides kernel-headers. Yet kernel-source-2.2.14 does not mention it. What am I missing? No, kernel-source doesn't provide kernel headers. However, if you install kernel-package you'll be able to use something like 'fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_headers' to build yourself a kernel-headers package. (Obviously you'll need fakeroot, dpkg-dev, possibly devscripts, etc.) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
