Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:58:17 -0700 Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 12:40 -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:13:23 +0200 Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etch/i386 also comes with an AMD64 kernel package. It should run fine with a 32 bit userspace environment. I was confused about that. I tried the Etch i386 linux-image-2.6-amd64 kernel last night, but ran into weird module problems. I wasn't sure of it was a bug or if I was using a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system. Running the system on linux-image-2.6-486 got rid of the module issues. Is the linux-image-2.6-amd64 package truly compiled for a 32-but user space? I've been using linux-image-2.6-amd64 for a few months (in Etch, with a 32-bit user environment) and haven't had any problems. I guess we must be using different modules. Originally, Etch installed the -486 image. Some time ago I switched to the -k7 image, then to the -amd64. All have worked without issue. Does anyone have any instructions on nvidia using amd64 kernel on etch i386 userspace? I am trying the debian way from http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers but fail with errors on conversion from elf32-i386 to elf64-x86-64 on the m-a auto-install nvidia step. /Andreas Rönnquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
Does anyone have any instructions on nvidia using amd64 kernel on etch i386 userspace? I am trying the debian way from http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers but fail with errors on conversion from elf32-i386 to elf64-x86-64 on the m-a auto-install nvidia step. /Andreas Rönnquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIK you can't do this. The nvidia module has 64-bit and 32-bit versions and having a amd64 kernel makes it think you are trying to build the 32-bit version on a 64-bit system hence the error. If you use the -k7 kernel it will build, but you lose some of the special features of the processor, not sure which but you can compare the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' on both kernels and google for any differences. I compile my own kernel and select the K8 processor type, but this does not change the architecture of the kernel so the module builds like this also. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
On Tue, 01 May 2007 18:46:54 +0100 Wackojacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK you can't do this. The nvidia module has 64-bit and 32-bit versions and having a amd64 kernel makes it think you are trying to build the 32-bit version on a 64-bit system hence the error. If you use the -k7 kernel it will build, but you lose some of the special features of the processor, not sure which but you can compare the output of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' on both kernels and google for any differences. I compile my own kernel and select the K8 processor type, but this does not change the architecture of the kernel so the module builds like this also. HTH Wackojacko Yeah, I am running a k7 kernel nowadays, no problems with nvidia there. Using 64 bit kernel (either full 64-bit install, or just the kernel) seems to be more problems than fun, be it flash and multimedia-codecs on full 64-bit install, or this nvidia stuff using this method... Guess I stick with my trusty k7 kernel then. Thanks anyway! /Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 12:40 -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:13:23 +0200 Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etch/i386 also comes with an AMD64 kernel package. It should run fine with a 32 bit userspace environment. I was confused about that. I tried the Etch i386 linux-image-2.6-amd64 kernel last night, but ran into weird module problems. I wasn't sure of it was a bug or if I was using a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system. Running the system on linux-image-2.6-486 got rid of the module issues. Is the linux-image-2.6-amd64 package truly compiled for a 32-but user space? I've been using linux-image-2.6-amd64 for a few months (in Etch, with a 32-bit user environment) and haven't had any problems. I guess we must be using different modules. Originally, Etch installed the -486 image. Some time ago I switched to the -k7 image, then to the -amd64. All have worked without issue. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream. --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
Bill Thompson wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:30:03 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what do you need the 32-bit chroot? Flash, Java, Mplayer w/ win32 codecs, audio drivers, etc. And amd64 consumes much more memory. However, Opera 9.10 works fine for me with flash, just download static version and use install with dpkg --force-architecture. Greater problem is Adobe Reader. I make it work by installing Ubuntu ia32-libs-gtk. Still, there is some bug so I can't use reverse pages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Thompson wrote: Hay all, So, I do a lot of multi-media work on my home workstation. The processor is an AMD64, but I don't want to hassle with a 32-bit chroot partition, so I just run the whole machine in 32-bit mode. The question I have is which Etch packaged kernel would you recommend for this situation? linux-image-2.6-486 or linux-image-2.6-k7? Personally, I would pick the K7. It has some optimization for the AMD processor, but both will work just fine. Joe - -- Registerd Linux user #443289 at http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMkrAiXBCVWpc5J4RApuiAJ9Rltg4BGJ1bQLEl9AcVLJgIlh+NQCeO/At OidmjQjjVeHWKDk+aWclsGE= =yF74 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
Hello Joe Hart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Bill Thompson wrote: So, I do a lot of multi-media work on my home workstation. The processor is an AMD64, but I don't want to hassle with a 32-bit chroot partition, so I just run the whole machine in 32-bit mode. The question I have is which Etch packaged kernel would you recommend for this situation? linux-image-2.6-486 or linux-image-2.6-k7? Personally, I would pick the K7. It has some optimization for the AMD processor, but both will work just fine. Etch/i386 also comes with an AMD64 kernel package. It should run fine with a 32 bit userspace environment. regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps-sarge.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:13:23 +0200 Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etch/i386 also comes with an AMD64 kernel package. It should run fine with a 32 bit userspace environment. regards Andreas Janssen I was confused about that. I tried the Etch i386 linux-image-2.6-amd64 kernel last night, but ran into weird module problems. I wasn't sure of it was a bug or if I was using a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit system. Running the system on linux-image-2.6-486 got rid of the module issues. Is the linux-image-2.6-amd64 package truly compiled for a 32-but user space? -- Bill Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 11:31:03AM -0700, Bill Thompson wrote: Hay all, So, I do a lot of multi-media work on my home workstation. The processor is an AMD64, but I don't want to hassle with a 32-bit chroot partition, so I just run the whole machine in 32-bit mode. For what do you need the 32-bit chroot? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch 32-bit system w/ AMD64 proc.
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:30:03 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what do you need the 32-bit chroot? Flash, Java, Mplayer w/ win32 codecs, audio drivers, etc. -- Bill Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
