Re: Expired passwords and Display Managers

2004-11-29 Thread Thomas Adam
 --- Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I consider this to be a very bad thing.

Why? This is exactly as it should be. It's a PAM issue which is only
affected when one logs in via login(1). DMs have no concept of this.
 
 Alternative Display Managers (not KDM or GDM please, I use neither)?

login into the (gasp!) console, and use 'startx'.

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Re: Expired passwords and Display Managers

2004-11-29 Thread Tom Allison
Thomas Adam wrote:
 --- Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I consider this to be a very bad thing.

Why? This is exactly as it should be. It's a PAM issue which is only
affected when one logs in via login(1). DMs have no concept of this.
 

Alternative Display Managers (not KDM or GDM please, I use neither)?

login into the (gasp!) console, and use 'startx'.
-- Thomas Adam
I can't (gasp!) have everyone doing that, they'll insist on using 
Windows (bigger gasp!).

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Re: Expired passwords and Display Managers

2004-11-29 Thread Tom Allison
Thomas Adam wrote:
 --- Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I consider this to be a very bad thing.

Why? This is exactly as it should be. It's a PAM issue which is only
affected when one logs in via login(1). DMs have no concept of this.
This may be true, but how do you get this to work if you have a policy 
of expiring passwords and have nothing but client systems in place?

Pushing the joe user to running a CLI + startx isn't going to be very 
successful when you are trying to get acceptance to a new system.

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Re: Expired passwords and Display Managers

2004-11-29 Thread Ralph Katz
On 11/29/2004 06:30 PM, Tom Allison wrote:
This may be true, but how do you get this to work if you have a policy 
of expiring passwords and have nothing but client systems in place?

Pushing the joe user to running a CLI + startx isn't going to be very 
successful when you are trying to get acceptance to a new system.
Tom,
From my perspective as a user, that's your admin problem! ;)
You can create scripts to check expirations and email users, right? 
Getting that policy acceptance you seek requires making it easy for your 
users.

Regards,
Ralph
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