Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:52:16PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. I find it annoying that questions that really should be in there, aren't. I once had a program which I couldn't quit from, (weird, but true) and it wasn't even mentioned in the FAQ, all that was in there was weird stuff that no one would even think of. Lisi Good for a grin, Lisi, thanks. And here I thought I was alone in thinking that. We're all cynics! Just as well, too eh? Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are not as they ought to be. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150417081511.GH24292@tal
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
On 04/17/2015 04:15 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:52:16PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. I find it annoying that questions that really should be in there, aren't. I once had a program which I couldn't quit from, (weird, but true) and it wasn't even mentioned in the FAQ, all that was in there was weird stuff that no one would even think of. Lisi Good for a grin, Lisi, thanks. And here I thought I was alone in thinking that. We're all cynics! Just as well, too eh? Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are not as they ought to be. Search results which deliver an FAQ more than several years old need to automagically be sent by the way-back machine to some place noted as probably-old-and-crufty in the search header. Then the author could pull it or update it. I learned the hard way to check the date before applying myself as root to make changes via keyboard. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5530c72c.7020...@gmail.com
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
On Friday 17 April 2015 04:15:12 Chris Bannister wrote: Lisi wrote: We're all cynics! Just as well, too eh? Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are not as they ought to be. Guilty as can be, here, Chris. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504170610.39501.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
Nate Bargmann wrote:
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote {with restored context
;/}
FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked.
*BUT* is there any reference that would provoke investigating
questions I have yet thought to ask? Can there be?
This partially prompted by a personal project whose working title
is A Minimalist's Minimal (but very INSTRUCTIVE) Install via
debootstrap. {d-i does too much too silently for my tastes ;)
We're all cynics!
For some odd reason I seem to have questions that are lightly or not
covered by the documentation.
*DEFINITELY* Part of the solution would be to encourage/ALLOW
technologically oriented Jr. and Sr. High students to write about
technology. It wasn't until my late 40's that had a writing
course that was a thinly disguised Literature course [more
pathetically it was at a small Bible college I attended part-time
instead of the Ivy League institution at which I had pursued an
engineering degree.]
For Richard, many of my searches lead me to the Stack Overflow
collection of web sites. The answers I find are usually very good and
often times there are one or two additional detailed explanations.
My searches have lead there as well. I'd likely not post there as
they have a strong orientation to how rather than why. I
attract enough static on that already grin
Of course someone will weigh in saying that all questions are ansered in
the source...
;/
- Nate
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Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
Gene Heskett wrote: Of course someone will weigh in saying that all questions are ansered in the source... - Nate That is provided the source is written in something resembling ANSI C. Our gcc today has very little resemblance to ANSI C. And its the ANSI that has not kept up, those KR #1 and #2 books we all once used for a Bible back in the day is now 24 years old. Well, no more like if the source is written in a high-level, ideally a domain-specific language - where what's going on is easy to follow. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/552e49fe.5090...@meetinghouse.net
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504141708.09427.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
* On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. Lisi Good for a grin, Lisi, thanks. And here I thought I was alone in thinking that. We're all cynics! For some odd reason I seem to have questions that are lightly or not covered by the documentation. For Richard, many of my searches lead me to the Stack Overflow collection of web sites. The answers I find are usually very good and often times there are one or two additional detailed explanations. Of course someone will weigh in saying that all questions are ansered in the source... - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150415015216.gz...@n0nb.us
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 21:52:16 Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. Lisi Good for a grin, Lisi, thanks. And here I thought I was alone in thinking that. We're all cynics! Amen! And while I am not originally from Missouri, I have been there often enough to be infected with the Show me viri. For some odd reason I seem to have questions that are lightly or not covered by the documentation. For Richard, many of my searches lead me to the Stack Overflow collection of web sites. The answers I find are usually very good and often times there are one or two additional detailed explanations. Which I, like you, have found to be usefull. Of course someone will weigh in saying that all questions are ansered in the source... - Nate That is provided the source is written in something resembling ANSI C. Our gcc today has very little resemblance to ANSI C. And its the ANSI that has not kept up, those KR #1 and #2 books we all once used for a Bible back in the day is now 24 years old. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504142240.29180.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: FAQ's versus Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask?
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked. In my experience they frequently indicate questions the writer is hoping/expecting you to ask, that noone has ever asked and that I have never thought of asking. Lisi Good for a grin, Lisi, thanks. And here I thought I was alone in thinking that. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504141456.03689.ghesk...@wdtv.com
