Re: Florida! (was Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burnit ?)

2003-06-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 23:53, Travis Crump wrote:
 Paul Johnson wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:18:19PM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote:
  
 Name one democracy we've set up. I'll bet you my right knuckle that 
 each and every one is a democracy in name only, and a republic in practice.
  
  
  Not even a republic.  Nicaragua: Dictatorship.  Afghanistan (America
  brought Osama to power to begin with): Dictatorship.  Iraq (America
  installed Saddam): Dictatorship.
  
  Name one republic America's created.
  
 
 the Phillipines, Panama, Haiti, Japan, West Germany...

You mean post-Noriega Panama and post-Cedras-intervention Haiti?

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Re: Florida! (was Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burnit ?)

2003-06-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 11:40, Deryk Barker wrote:
 Thus spake Travis Crump ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  Paul Johnson wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:18:19PM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote:
  
  Name one democracy we've set up. I'll bet you my right knuckle that 
  each and every one is a democracy in name only, and a republic in 
  practice.
  
  
  Not even a republic.  Nicaragua: Dictatorship.  Afghanistan (America
  brought Osama to power to begin with): Dictatorship.  Iraq (America
  installed Saddam): Dictatorship.
  
  Name one republic America's created.
  
  
  the Phillipines, Panama, Haiti, Japan, West Germany...
 
 I think others had hands in setting up Japan and (W) Germany at the
 end of WWII.

West Germany, yes, partially England and France.

Who else helped with Japan?

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Re: Florida! (was Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burnit ?)

2003-06-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 20:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
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 On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 09:40:00AM -0700, Deryk Barker wrote:
   the Phillipines, Panama, Haiti, Japan, West Germany...
  
  I think others had hands in setting up Japan and (W) Germany at the
  end of WWII.
 
 And by anybody's account, The Phillipines, Panama and Haiti are
 bananna republics.

The Philipines and Panama have been making good progress since
their US sponsored dictators were overthrown by or with the encourage-
ment of the US.  The souther rebels are making it hard in the
Phlipines, though.

Haiti is a basket case and is probably hopeless.

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Re: Florida! (was Re: Knoppix ISO image is 715MB - How Do I burnit ?)

2003-06-08 Thread Travis Crump
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:18:19PM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote:

Name one democracy we've set up. I'll bet you my right knuckle that 
each and every one is a democracy in name only, and a republic in practice.


Not even a republic.  Nicaragua: Dictatorship.  Afghanistan (America
brought Osama to power to begin with): Dictatorship.  Iraq (America
installed Saddam): Dictatorship.
Name one republic America's created.

the Phillipines, Panama, Haiti, Japan, West Germany...


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