Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 Nov 2021 at 17:27:08 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 November 2021 13:08:19 Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> > Folks have discussed list bounces like this one in this forum already.
> > I would like to draw the administrators' attention to
> > bendel.debian.org, as shown here. I can't see enough to diagnose it as
> > false positive or problem. Thanks
> 
> The mail server at your ISP is bouncing it, call tech and have them 
> whitelist bendel.debian.org.

I wouldn't have thought there was any use talking to your ISP about
posts arriving at gmail.com, or any other external mail host.

> That doesn't mean they don't send spam, cuz they do occasionally, but at 
> least it won't send you threatening msgs to ignore. You'll then get the 
> spam but spamassassin can handle that.

If it's really coming from the list (rather than being sent directly
to your harvested email address), then it should appear on the web at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent
where you can click on the 'Report as spam' link. I presume this is
the most convenient (ie automated) way for Debian to receive reports.

I don't see much threat in:

> > 1 bounce out of 149 mails in 7 days (0%, kick-score is 80%)

> > However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be
> > unsubscribed :-) ) if your bounce rate remains low.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 24 November 2021 13:08:19 Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

> Top posting necessarily.
> Folks have discussed list bounces like this one in this forum already.
> I would like to draw the administrators' attention to
> bendel.debian.org, as shown here. I can't see enough to diagnose it as
> false positive or problem. Thanks

The mail server at your ISP is bouncing it, call tech and have them 
whitelist bendel.debian.org.
That doesn't mean they don't send spam, cuz they do occasionally, but at 
least it won't send you threatening msgs to ignore. You'll then get the 
spam but spamassassin can handle that.

> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Debian Listmaster Team 
> Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 10:45 AM
> Subject: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you
> To: 
>
>
> Dear subscriber,
>
> We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your
> emailaddress nickgeova...@gmail.com.
>
> In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> * debian-user
> 1 bounce out of 149 mails in 7 days (0%, kick-score is 80%)
> (https://lists.debian.org/bounces/u9lHbXYWgI1VcxqPZbbglg)
>
> (The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
> and will be valid for seven days.)
>
> If the bounce-rate passes the kick-score, our bounce-detection will
> forcibly remove your subscription.
>
> Bounces happen from time to time when spam slips through our filters
> but are rejected by your mail provider.  If you are your own mail
> provider and use 'Before-Queue Content filtering', you should
> whitelist bendel.debian.org from
> Content filtering.
>
> However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be
> unsubscribed
>
> :-) ) if your bounce rate remains low.
>
> For more information see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ
>
> You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org if you think
> this message was sent in error.
>
> Sincerely,
> The Listmaster Team


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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[David Wright]

On Wed 24 Nov 2021 at 12:08:19 (-0600), Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

> Folks have discussed list bounces like this one in this forum already. I
> would like to draw the administrators' attention to bendel.debian.org, as
> shown here. I can't see enough to diagnose it as false positive or problem.

You can check on the web.

> In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> * debian-user
> 1 bounce out of 149 mails in 7 days (0%, kick-score is 80%)
> (https://lists.debian.org/bounces/u9lHbXYWgI1VcxqPZbbglg)
> 
> (The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
> and will be valid for seven days.)

The link shows the full post, and its Message-ID:

<571196642.196217.1637769582057.javamail.open-xcha...@opme11oxm12nd1.rouen.francetelecom.fr>

confirms that it's

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/11/msg00564.html

The Brazilian link therein confirms that it's a scam even if
you can't recognise "Bankensystems" as off-topic.

I assume people are clicking the button in the top right corner
of the web page to draw the administrators' attention to it.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On 24/11/2021 15:08, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

Top posting necessarily.
Folks have discussed list bounces like this one in this forum already. 
I would like to draw the administrators' attention to 
bendel.debian.org , as shown here. I can't 
see enough to diagnose it as false positive or problem. Thanks


This seems to be perfectly legit and valid. Your mailserver (gmail) 
reject a spam that evaded debian's filters. In rejecting it, it caused a 
bounce. When the list server got the bounce, it warned you about it.


Since it's only one bounce, nothing happens. Only if your server bounces 
a lot of emails (80%, as the message shows) you'll be unsubscribed.





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From: *Debian Listmaster Team* >

Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2021, 10:45 AM
Subject: lists.debian.org  has received 
bounces from you

To: mailto:nickgeova...@gmail.com>>


Dear subscriber,

We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your
emailaddress nickgeova...@gmail.com .

In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
* debian-user
        1 bounce out of 149 mails in 7 days (0%, kick-score is 80%)
        (https://lists.debian.org/bounces/u9lHbXYWgI1VcxqPZbbglg 
)


(The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
and will be valid for seven days.)

If the bounce-rate passes the kick-score, our bounce-detection will 
forcibly

remove your subscription.

Bounces happen from time to time when spam slips through our filters 
but are

rejected by your mail provider.  If you are your own mail provider and use
'Before-Queue Content filtering', you should whitelist 
bendel.debian.org  from

Content filtering.

However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be 
unsubscribed

:-) ) if your bounce rate remains low.

For more information see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ 



You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org 
 if you think this

message was sent in error.

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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 06:40:17PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> I assume the list is using mailman?

Debian lists do not use Mailman, but SmartList I believe. It's
probably also a fair bit modified from upstream.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Nicholas Geovanis]

FWIW I get a couple of these every couple weeks. But that didnt start until
maybe 3 years ago. Ive always assumed it was a gmail internal issue. It has
never been more than 2 or 3 bounces per month.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 8:06 PM Joe Pfeiffer  wrote:

> I assume the list is using mailman?  I haven't found a setting to tell a
> subscriber their email is bouncing -- where is it?
>
>

Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Joe Pfeiffer]

I assume the list is using mailman?  I haven't found a setting to tell a
subscriber their email is bouncing -- where is it?

Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 27 mai 20, 02:12:34, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Actually, my email address has been down since last Tuesday, only fully
> returning yesterday.  Meaning that for all that time bounces to the list
> would  get counted for my address.  Got this very e-mail several hours ago.
> Kare

If I understand correctly this is exactly what this check was designed 
for.

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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Karen Lewellen]

Actually, my email address has been down since last Tuesday, only fully 
returning yesterday.  Meaning that for all that time bounces to the list 
would  get counted for my address.  Got this very e-mail several hours 
ago.

Kare



On Tue, 26 May 2020, Marc Shapiro wrote:


On 5/26/20 2:23 PM, Abhishek Dixit wrote:

 What should I do for bounce messages I get.


 -- Forwarded message -
 From: *Debian Listmaster Team* mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org>>
 Date: Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:16 AM
 Subject: lists.debian.org  has received bounces
 from you
 To: mailto:abhidixi...@gmail.com>>


 Dear subscriber,

 We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your
 emailaddress abhidixi...@gmail.com .

 In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
 * debian-user
 ?? ?? ?? ?? 1 bounce out of 84 mails in one day (1%, kick-score is 80%)
 ?? ?? ?? ?? (https://lists.debian.org/bounces/ue_GpOw_vSJRYwJ9fC4rKw)

 (The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
 and will be valid for seven days.)

 If the bounce-rate passes the kick-score, our bounce-detection will
 forcibly
 remove your subscription.

 Bounces happen from time to time when spam slips through our filters but
 are
 rejected by your mail provider.?? If you are your own mail provider and
 use
 'Before-Queue Content filtering', you should whitelist bendel.debian.org
  from
 Content filtering.

 However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be
 unsubscribed
 :-) ) if your bounce rate remains low.

 For more information see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ

 You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
  if you think this
 message was sent in error.

 ?? ?? ?? ?? Sincerely,
 The Listmaster Team
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 --
 -

 Abhi


I wouldn't worry about it.?? When I get these (which is maybe once every 
month, or two) I check the bounced e-mail (from the link) to see if it was 
anything I really needed to read.?? Then I don't worry about it any more.?? 
You have a 1% bounce rate.?? As the e-mail says, they will remove your 
subscription if it reaches 80%.?? With 84 e-mails, they would have to 
received 68 bounces before it would become an issue.?? For me, it has never 
been more than 1 bounce.?? Nothing top worry about.



Marc

Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Marc Shapiro]

On 5/26/20 2:23 PM, Abhishek Dixit wrote:

What should I do for bounce messages I get.


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From: *Debian Listmaster Team* >

Date: Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:16 AM
Subject: lists.debian.org  has received 
bounces from you

To: mailto:abhidixi...@gmail.com>>


Dear subscriber,

We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your
emailaddress abhidixi...@gmail.com .

In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
* debian-user
        1 bounce out of 84 mails in one day (1%, kick-score is 80%)
        (https://lists.debian.org/bounces/ue_GpOw_vSJRYwJ9fC4rKw)

(The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
and will be valid for seven days.)

If the bounce-rate passes the kick-score, our bounce-detection will 
forcibly

remove your subscription.

Bounces happen from time to time when spam slips through our filters 
but are

rejected by your mail provider.  If you are your own mail provider and use
'Before-Queue Content filtering', you should whitelist 
bendel.debian.org  from

Content filtering.

However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be 
unsubscribed

:-) ) if your bounce rate remains low.

For more information see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ

You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org 
 if you think this

message was sent in error.

        Sincerely,
The Listmaster Team
--
http://lists.debian.org



--
-

Abhi


I wouldn't worry about it.  When I get these (which is maybe once every 
month, or two) I check the bounced e-mail (from the link) to see if it 
was anything I really needed to read.  Then I don't worry about it any 
more.  You have a 1% bounce rate.  As the e-mail says, they will remove 
your subscription if it reaches 80%.  With 84 e-mails, they would have 
to received 68 bounces before it would become an issue.  For me, it has 
never been more than 1 bounce.  Nothing top worry about.



Marc

Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 26 May 2020 17:23:53 Abhishek Dixit wrote:

> What should I do for bounce messages I get.
>
Delete them.  Debians filtering passes whats obviously spam, and my isp 
often bounces them, but it only 1 every 2 or 3 weeks so its very very 
rare you'll get kicked off the list.  So I've been nuking them for at 
least a decade.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Debian Listmaster Team 
> Date: Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:16 AM
> Subject: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you
> To: 
>
>
> Dear subscriber,
>
> We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your
> emailaddress abhidixi...@gmail.com.
>
> In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
> * debian-user
> 1 bounce out of 84 mails in one day (1%, kick-score is 80%)
> (https://lists.debian.org/bounces/ue_GpOw_vSJRYwJ9fC4rKw)
>
> (The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
> and will be valid for seven days.)
>
> If the bounce-rate passes the kick-score, our bounce-detection will
> forcibly remove your subscription.
>
> Bounces happen from time to time when spam slips through our filters
> but are rejected by your mail provider.  If you are your own mail
> provider and use 'Before-Queue Content filtering', you should
> whitelist bendel.debian.org from
> Content filtering.
>
> However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be
> unsubscribed
>
> :-) ) if your bounce rate remains low.
>
> For more information see https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ
>
> You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org if you think
> this message was sent in error.
>
> Sincerely,
> The Listmaster Team
> --
> http://lists.debian.org


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 05:07:51PM +0800, 慕冬亮 wrote:
 What's the meaning ???

Please contact listmas...@lists.debian.org if you need help with
the message, please do not ask list-subscription related questions
on debian-user.


Thanks

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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 05:07:51PM +0800, 慕冬亮 wrote:
What's the meaning ???

A bounce, in terms of email, is when an email server has accepted mail
for delivery and then, later, found that the message is undeliverable.
That is, if the message can be rejected during the SMTP conversation,
then a bounce is not created, but if the server accepts the mail and
then, say, passes it on to a SPAM appliance which rejects the message,
then the server that accepted the message must send a message back to
the sender saying I know I said I'd accept this, but I changed my
mind.

In your case, the reason for the bounce is listed on the web page
linked:

5.7.0 (COL004-MC1F52) Unfortunately, messages from (82.195.75.100) on
behalf of (yahoo.com) could not be delivered due to domain owner
policy restrictions.

570 is the SMTP rejection code. COL004-MC1F52 would appear to be an
error message identifier. You probably need to talk to hotmail.com (or
consult their help pages) to determine what the policy restrictions
are.

On the plus side, though, out of 16 mails sent to you by the debian
mailinglist server, only one has bounced. So either the problem has just
started, or you've had a glitch. You should get more messages if the
bounces continue, otherwise, assume the problem has fixed itself.

 
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 Subject: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 08:45:12 +
From: Debian Listmaster Team [1]listmas...@lists.debian.org
Reply-To: [2]listmas...@lists.debian.org
  To: [3]mudonglianga...@hotmail.com
 
  Dear subscriber,
 
  We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your
  emailaddress [4]mudonglianga...@hotmail.com.
 
  In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list:
  * debian-user
  1 bounce out of 16 mails in one day (6%, kick-score is 80%)
  ([5]http://lists.debian.org/bounces/Bcjqp9tet2DLfkhd5+SwZA)
 
  (The link above points to a copy of the latest bounce
  and will be valid for seven days.)
 
  If the bounce-rate passes the kick-score, our bounce-detection will forcibly
  remove your subscription.
 
  Bounces happen from time to time when spam slips through our filters but are
  rejected by your mail provider.  If you are your own mail provider and use
  'Before-Queue Content filtering', you should whitelist bendel.debian.org from
  Content filtering.
 
  However: You can safely ignore this message (and you will not be unsubscribed
  :-) ) if your kick-score remains low.
 
  For more information see [6]http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/FAQ
 
  You are welcome to contact [7]listmas...@lists.debian.org if you think this
  message was sent in error.
 
  Sincerely,
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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Martin Read]

On 19/03/15 09:36, Darac Marjal wrote:

On the plus side, though, out of 16 mails sent to you by the debian
mailinglist server, only one has bounced. So either the problem has just
started, or you've had a glitch. You should get more messages if the
bounces continue, otherwise, assume the problem has fixed itself.


In practice, every time I've had a bounce warning from the Debian 
mailing list server, it's been because my ISP bounced some spam that 
defeated the Debian mailing list server's filters.



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Re: Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you

[Selim T . Erdoğan]

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 02:18:24PM +, Martin Read wrote:
 
 In practice, every time I've had a bounce warning from the Debian mailing
 list server, it's been because my ISP bounced some spam that defeated the
 Debian mailing list server's filters.

Well, you've been luckier than some.  I've had non-spam bounced before.  
And the bounced e-mail that started this thread wasn't spam either.


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Re: [Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you] (HS)

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Friday 24 July 2009 10:55:45 jipe wrote:
 Bonjour à tous,
 désolé pour le bruit, mais j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un à déjà reçu ce
 genre de message, et que faut-il faire ?
 merci.

Oui, et ne rien faire. C' est la liste qui envoie un spam, et ton FAI qui le 
bloque.
Thierry

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Re: [Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you] (HS)

[Francois Bottin]

Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On Friday 24 July 2009 10:55:45 jipe wrote:

Bonjour à tous,
désolé pour le bruit, mais j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un à déjà reçu ce
genre de message, et que faut-il faire ?
merci.


Oui, et ne rien faire. C' est la liste qui envoie un spam, et ton FAI qui le 
bloque.


Oui mais non ! Comme vous deux, je suis aussi chez Free et je reçois 
régulièrement ce message... Pourtant, j'ai explicitement spécifié dans 
ma console que je ne souhaitais pas que Free fasse le tri des messages 
(je prefère le faire moi-même, d'autant plus qu'une fois sur deux il 
s'agit d'un faux positif).


J'ai ouvert un tiquet d'assistance sur le sujet en expliquant calmement 
les choses et avec un rapport de bounce sur un message faux positif, 
pour le moment je n'ai reçu que le message automatique de création du 
tiquet... J'ose espérer que si nous sommes un certain nombre à nous 
plaindre de cette détérioration de service (ne pas recevoir certains 
messages est clairement un défaut, c'est à moi de déterminer si je veux 
le lire ou non), ce filtrage pourrait devenir débrayable pour ceux qui 
ont leurs propres filtres.


Pour information, j'ai déjà été jeté deux fois de la liste 
debian-eeepc-devel pour la même raison !


François.

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Re: [Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you] (HS)

[François]

jipe a exposé le 24/07/2009 :

 désolé pour le bruit, mais j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un à déjà reçu
 ce genre de message, et que faut-il faire ?

Tu es chez Free, toi aussi ?
J'ai déjà reçu ça, et je l'ai renvoyé à postmas...@free.fr
Je ne sais pas quelle suite ils y ont donné, car ils ne m'ont pas
répondu.

Je n'ai jamais reçu les messages de la liste en messagerie. Il semble
que Free fait du zèle. Je les lis sur gmane.

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Re: [Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you] (HS)

[Alain Vaugham]

Le vendredi 24 juillet 2009 11:44, Francois Bottin a écrit :
 Thierry Chatelet wrote:
  On Friday 24 July 2009 10:55:45 jipe wrote:
  Bonjour à tous,
  désolé pour le bruit, mais j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un à déjà reçu ce
  genre de message, et que faut-il faire ?
  merci.
 
  Oui, et ne rien faire. C' est la liste qui envoie un spam, et ton FAI qui
  le bloque.

 Oui mais non ! Comme vous deux, je suis aussi chez Free et je reçois
 régulièrement ce message... Pourtant, j'ai explicitement spécifié dans
 ma console que je ne souhaitais pas que Free fasse le tri des messages
 (je prefère le faire moi-même, d'autant plus qu'une fois sur deux il
 s'agit d'un faux positif).
[...]

Idem chez Nordnet.
Tous les emails passent par un filtrage de contenu non-débrayable par 
l'utilisateur.
Pour éviter les dégâts collatéraux de ce filtrage, la solution qu'ils m'ont 
proposé c'est de diriger les emails sur mon propre MTA et de gérer moi-même 
le flux.


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Re: [Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you] (HS)

[Jean-Yves F. Barbier]

Alain Vaugham a écrit :
...
 Oui mais non ! Comme vous deux, je suis aussi chez Free et je reçois
 régulièrement ce message... Pourtant, j'ai explicitement spécifié dans
 ma console que je ne souhaitais pas que Free fasse le tri des messages
 (je prefère le faire moi-même, d'autant plus qu'une fois sur deux il
 s'agit d'un faux positif).
 [...]
 
 Idem chez Nordnet.
 Tous les emails passent par un filtrage de contenu non-débrayable par 
 l'utilisateur.
 Pour éviter les dégâts collatéraux de ce filtrage, la solution qu'ils m'ont 
 proposé c'est de diriger les emails sur mon propre MTA et de gérer moi-même 
 le flux.

C'est à noter, parce que c'est plutôt rare, bienvenue et user-friendly :)

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Re: [Fwd: lists.debian.org has received bounces from you] (HS)

[jipe]

Francois Bottin a écrit :

Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On Friday 24 July 2009 10:55:45 jipe wrote:

Bonjour à tous,
désolé pour le bruit, mais j'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un à déjà 
reçu ce

genre de message, et que faut-il faire ?
merci.


Oui, et ne rien faire. C' est la liste qui envoie un spam, et ton FAI 
qui le bloque.


Oui mais non ! Comme vous deux, je suis aussi chez Free et je reçois 
régulièrement ce message... Pourtant, j'ai explicitement spécifié dans 
ma console que je ne souhaitais pas que Free fasse le tri des messages 
(je prefère le faire moi-même, d'autant plus qu'une fois sur deux il 
s'agit d'un faux positif).


J'ai ouvert un tiquet d'assistance sur le sujet en expliquant 
calmement les choses et avec un rapport de bounce sur un message faux 
positif, pour le moment je n'ai reçu que le message automatique de 
création du tiquet... J'ose espérer que si nous sommes un certain 
nombre à nous plaindre de cette détérioration de service (ne pas 
recevoir certains messages est clairement un défaut, c'est à moi de 
déterminer si je veux le lire ou non), ce filtrage pourrait devenir 
débrayable pour ceux qui ont leurs propres filtres.


Pour information, j'ai déjà été jeté deux fois de la liste 
debian-eeepc-devel pour la même raison !


François.

Merci pour les réponses, comprenant mal l'anglais, j'ai cru que c'était 
quelqu'un qui se servait se mon adresse mail pour envoyer tous ces 
messages d'un seul coup. Donc me voila rassuré. mais si je comprends 
bien c'est free qui bloque les messages de la liste, en pensant que ce 
sont des spam ??? de quel droit. je vais envoyer un ticket aussi.

merci
et @+
librement

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Si nous avons chacun un objet et que nous les échangeons, nous avons chacun un 
objet.
Si nous avons chacun une idée et que nous les échangeons, nous avons chacun 
deux idées.
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