Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:53:14 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Liam O'Toole  wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:08:27 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> 
> >> Backports must not be used to fix bugs in Stable. If groovy from
> >> Stable does not work with the openjdk-11 from Stable, then this is a
> >> bug in Stable and has to be fixed in Stable.
> 
> > This is indeed a bug in stable. However, any package in testing
> > becomes a candidate for stable-backports.
> 
> Sure. But the official stance of Debian is the one I lined out above, by
> both the SRMs and the Backports-RMs.
> 
>  You must not be forced to install packages from backports just to get a
>  bug fixed.
> 
> In this case one could argue that the bug in groovy is indeed
> release-critical, since it does not work at all.
> 

No one is suggesting using force. :-)



Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Liam O'Toole  wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:08:27 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:

>> Backports must not be used to fix bugs in Stable. If groovy from
>> Stable does not work with the openjdk-11 from Stable, then this is a
>> bug in Stable and has to be fixed in Stable.

> This is indeed a bug in stable. However, any package in testing
> becomes a candidate for stable-backports.

Sure. But the official stance of Debian is the one I lined out above, by
both the SRMs and the Backports-RMs.

 You must not be forced to install packages from backports just to get a
 bug fixed.

In this case one could argue that the bug in groovy is indeed
release-critical, since it does not work at all.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:08:27 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Liam O'Toole  wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Apr, 2020 at 22:15:09 +0530, Jayant Tripathi wrote:
> 
> >>[1]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460
> >>Is there a way to download patched groovy version in debian buster
> >>through apt?
> >>As default groovy version in Buster stable is: Groovy Version: 2.4.16
> >>JVM: 11.0.6 Vendor: Debian OS: Linux
> >>Regards
> >>Jayant Tripathi
> >> 
> >> References
> >> 
> >>1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460
> 
> > Groovy 2.4.17 is available in bullseye (testing). Try requesting a
> > backport on the debian-backports list.
> 
> Backports must not be used to fix bugs in Stable. If groovy from Stable
> does not work with the openjdk-11 from Stable, then this is a bug in
> Stable and has to be fixed in Stable.
> 

This is indeed a bug in stable. However, any package in testing becomes
a candidate for stable-backports. There's more than one way to skin this
cat.



Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Liam O'Toole  wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr, 2020 at 22:15:09 +0530, Jayant Tripathi wrote:

>>[1]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460
>>Is there a way to download patched groovy version in debian buster
>>through apt?
>>As default groovy version in Buster stable is: Groovy Version: 2.4.16
>>JVM: 11.0.6 Vendor: Debian OS: Linux
>>Regards
>>Jayant Tripathi
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460

> Groovy 2.4.17 is available in bullseye (testing). Try requesting a
> backport on the debian-backports list.

Backports must not be used to fix bugs in Stable. If groovy from Stable
does not work with the openjdk-11 from Stable, then this is a bug in
Stable and has to be fixed in Stable.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 22 Apr, 2020 at 22:15:09 +0530, Jayant Tripathi wrote:
>[1]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460
>Is there a way to download patched groovy version in debian buster
>through apt?
>As default groovy version in Buster stable is: Groovy Version: 2.4.16
>JVM: 11.0.6 Vendor: Debian OS: Linux
>Regards
>Jayant Tripathi
> 
> References
> 
>1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460

Groovy 2.4.17 is available in bullseye (testing). Try requesting a
backport on the debian-backports list. Alternatively, you could attempt
building a backport yourself:

https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation