Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
I don't know if this will help you any, but it's worth a shot: When mine was overheating recently, it was the RAM chips that were getting too hot. The way I figured that out is the side of the case right where the RAM chips are was quite warm to the touch. The chips themselves were too hot to touch except by the edge of the SIMM. Maybe the P233 is tired of running at 114% of the speed it wanted to run. On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am overclocking my P233 to 266, and have been doing so since March or so. I took off the case cover and the cpu wasn't even hot, I could grab the sides of the fan-heatsink. I will keep an eye on this and see I can find a pattern of some sort. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Shaleh wrote: What is running / not running at the time of the crash. The ^@ could indicate a daemon overflowing its buffer -- it could be a symptom or a cause. sounds more like a symptom to me. i've seen that lots of times after crashes - my guess is it's a result of fsck allocating the remainder of a block to the logfile or something like that. When I run Netscape and Enlightenment 13.3 I occasionally have this happen. Seems that NS does some things that eventually torque off E and X. netscape does weird shit. i've had it take down my X session a few times and occasionally (rarely) lock up the whole machine. what do you expect from commercial/closed-source software? :-( unfortunately, netscape is much better than any alternative - too bad it's so badly written. craig -- craig sanders -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Shaleh wrote: What is running / not running at the time of the crash. The ^@ could indicate a daemon overflowing its buffer -- it could be a symptom or a cause. When I run Netscape and Enlightenment 13.3 I occasionally have this happen. Seems that NS does some things that eventually torque off E and X. This sure sounds like a hardware problem. Memory, hard disk, or overheating CPU. Also you might try a different kernel. A Pentium Pro optimized kernel with a Cyrix processor may also cause problems for some. As I recall I also had similar problems with the 2.0.30 kernel. /*** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills* Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A.* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://homepage.midusa.net/~wpmills/ * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.networksplus.net/wpmills/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * / -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
What is running / not running at the time of the crash. The ^@ could indicate a daemon overflowing its buffer -- it could be a symptom or a cause. When I run Netscape and Enlightenment 13.3 I occasionally have this happen. Seems that NS does some things that eventually torque off E and X. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Hi all, : : Very unpredictably(so far) my machine will lock-up hard. I can't : ctl-alt-del, no mouse or keyboard response, not even any jsr daemon : response(uses joystick port to signal reboot). The only indication in : the logs are strings of binary characters showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to : hit the reset button and hope my hard drive isn't trashed. Does : anybody have any ideas of what to look for? Are you on kernel 2.0.33? What's the load average? -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
*-Shaleh ( 6 Jul) | What is running / not running at the time of the crash. The ^@ could | indicate a daemon overflowing its buffer -- it could be a symptom or a | cause. When I run Netscape and Enlightenment 13.3 I occasionally have | this happen. Seems that NS does some things that eventually torque off | E and X. *-Nathan E Norman ( 6 Jul) | Are you on kernel 2.0.33? What's the load average? | Kernel 2.0.34, Netscape 4.05(glibc version), Matlab, Xemacs, TkRat, Ical, Fvwm95, all the usual daemons, load average of = 1, I am the only user. It locked up again when I was reading your replies for the first time, this was only about 10 minutes after the previous crash! This time there was no trace of any ^@'s in the logs. Now I have rebooted and so far so good. I have strace logging on Matlab and Netscape to see if they catch anything. Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very unpredictably(so far) my machine will lock-up hard. I can't ctl-alt-del, no mouse or keyboard response, not even any jsr daemon response(uses joystick port to signal reboot). The only indication in the logs are strings of binary characters showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to hit the reset button and hope my hard drive isn't trashed. Does anybody have any ideas of what to look for? It could be a hardware problem. My best guess is over heating. Take the cover off and put a fan next to it to see if that fixes the problem. Good luck, Brandon --+-- Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Testing Group Status PGP Key: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/ Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
*-Brandon Mitchell ( 6 Jul) | On Mon, 6 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Very unpredictably(so far) my machine will lock-up hard. I can't | ctl-alt-del, no mouse or keyboard response, not even any jsr daemon | response(uses joystick port to signal reboot). The only indication in | the logs are strings of binary characters showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to | hit the reset button and hope my hard drive isn't trashed. Does | anybody have any ideas of what to look for? | | It could be a hardware problem. My best guess is over heating. Take the | cover off and put a fan next to it to see if that fixes the problem. | Well, I am overclocking my P233 to 266, and have been doing so since March or so. I took off the case cover and the cpu wasn't even hot, I could grab the sides of the fan-heatsink. I will keep an eye on this and see I can find a pattern of some sort. Thanks, Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hard lock-up crashes, need some clues!
Brian writes: Well, I am overclocking my P233 to 266, and have been doing so since March or so. I took off the case cover and the cpu wasn't even hot, I could grab the sides of the fan-heatsink. Do you have heatsink grease between the heatsink and the cpu? If not the cpu can overheat while the heatsink remains cool. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
