Re: Headers in this ML
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:56:31PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:41:01 -0700 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What probably happened is they hit Reply-All and sent it as the unsubscribe. So a message came here and one came to you directly from some other message you sent. If it did not have a list header it did not actually come from the list. Fair enough. Thanks. Though I'm not sure I understand your explanation, but it's not important. I think Shaleh means that someone hit `reply all' on message you sent to the list, then replaced the subject with `unsubscribe' and blanked the body. Since the message they replied to was `From:' you, you got a copy, and so did d-u. -rob msg05252/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Headers in this ML
* Richard Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 15:07]: I've just received a message from the list with no reference in the headers to debian. How do you know that the message came from this list then? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
This one time, at band camp, Richard Kimber said: I've just received a message from the list with no reference in the headers to debian. Since I sort my mail on the basis of headers, the message went into the wrong box. Has there been some change in how the list is administered? - Richard. I'm not sure which message, or what you've been sorting on, but I always sort on X-Mailing-List - Debian puts that header in all of it's lists. HTH, Steve -- I will not say that women have no character; rather, they have a new one every day. -- Heine msg05066/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Headers in this ML
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:36:36 +0200 Robert Ian Smit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Richard Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2002 15:07]: I've just received a message from the list with no reference in the headers to debian. How do you know that the message came from this list then? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] It had the above To UNSUBSCRIBE stuff at the bottom. I assumed that meant that it did. - Richard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
On Thursday 03 October 2002 08:54, Richard Kimber wrote: On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:17:57 +0100 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would advise filtering on the X-Mailing-List: header, not To: or Cc:, if the latter is what you're doing. This should be reliable. Thanks, but there wasn't such a header in the message. No reference to the list at all, yet at the bottom of the message there was the usual To UNSUBSCRIBE etc. It's obviously a one-off and not a basic change. A bit odd. - Richard. What probably happened is they hit Reply-All and sent it as the unsubscribe. So a message came here and one came to you directly from some other message you sent. If it did not have a list header it did not actually come from the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:41:01 -0700 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What probably happened is they hit Reply-All and sent it as the unsubscribe. So a message came here and one came to you directly from some other message you sent. If it did not have a list header it did not actually come from the list. Fair enough. Thanks. Though I'm not sure I understand your explanation, but it's not important. - Richard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:11:24PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: It had the above To UNSUBSCRIBE stuff at the bottom. I assumed that meant that it did. - Richard. What did the From: header say? -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
Richard Kimber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would advise filtering on the X-Mailing-List: header, not To: or Cc:, if the latter is what you're doing. This should be reliable. Thanks, but there wasn't such a header in the message. No reference to the list at all, yet at the bottom of the message there was the usual To UNSUBSCRIBE etc. It's obviously a one-off and not a basic change. I have noticed similar effects sometimes, it seemed to happen only with certain posters. Most mails would get filtered alright, but once in a while the headers were different. Unfortunately, I can't check anymore as I just deleted my archive, having switched to reading the lists through a mail2news-gateway. That way I don't have to bother about filtering at all anymore and have a direct access to the archive. If you could find the message-id of the mail that had different headers, people would be able to have a closer look. A bit odd. Very much so. Ciao, Jens P.S.: this is the first time I post through the gateway (which is supposed to be bidirectional). If you reply could you confirm that this message is visible on the mailing list and not only in the corresponding newsgroup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
* Jens Grivolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-10-2002 00:02]: If you reply could you confirm that this message is visible on the mailing list? It is. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:34:09PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: I've just received a message from the list with no reference in the headers to debian. Since I sort my mail on the basis of headers, the message went into the wrong box. Has there been some change in how the list is administered? Are you using standard mbox format? Could it be that it's just the end of another email that just happened to have a proper From header in its *body* ? -- groetjes, carel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
On 0, Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:34:09PM +0100, Richard Kimber wrote: I've just received a message from the list with no reference in the headers to debian. Since I sort my mail on the basis of headers, the message went into the wrong box. Has there been some change in how the list is administered? Are you using standard mbox format? Could it be that it's just the end of another email that just happened to have a proper From header in its *body* ? No, I see this occasionally too. Only about four messages this year, but they happen. A message whose only addressing is To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and with Received: headers that indicate it came through debian, but without the X-Mailing-List or any of the other headers. I usually regard it as an oddity and move it to the other mail box; the volume of such mails is not really high enough to worry about. Tom -- Tom Cook Information Technology Services, The University of Adelaide Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. Get my GPG public key: https://pinky.its.adelaide.edu.au/~tkcook/tom.cook-at-adelaide.edu.au msg05187/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
