Re: Help with Debian for ARM

2023-05-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Mario Marietto wrote: 
> I still have the old "Samsung / Google Nexus 10" tablet. I don't like
> Android. Any help to install Ubuntu instead of Android on this device is
> appreciated. Thanks.


First, this is a Debian list, not an Ubuntu list.

Second, as far as I know, there are proprietary components to
that tablet which make it impossible for Debian to be installed.

As an alternative, nearly all Android devices can run a Debian
environment in a chroot:

https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid


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Re: Help with Debian for ARM

2023-05-13 Thread Mario Marietto
Errata corrige :

I still have the old "Samsung / Google Nexus 10" tablet. I don't like
Android. Any help to install Debian instead of Android on this device is
appreciated. Thanks.

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 2:27 PM Mario Marietto 
wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I still have the old "Samsung / Google Nexus 10" tablet. I don't like
> Android. Any help to install Ubuntu instead of Android on this device is
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> --
> Mario.
>


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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread Indulekha
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:20:14PM +0200, felix chisoni wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I am a college librarian in a nursing school.  I have been using a
 Library Management System called KOHA 2.2.9 which runs on windows xp.
 This is a very old version. However, I am determined to upgrade to
 KOHA 3.6 which runs on Debian with so much exciting features.
 
 I have managed to downloaded the debian-6.0.5-i386-iso
 (191.00mb-napoleon.um.se) and copied it on a CD.  It is a small
 installation image from Debian website. This morning, I was trying to
 install it for testing. Whilst it was scanning the mirrors, It
 indicated this
 warning Bad archive mirror). It appears the reason is my poor
 internet connection. I am expecting to work overnight when the speed
 improves.
 
 I am not sure if I have made any mistake.
 
 Please Help.
 

If you have a really bad internet connection (I do), 
you might be able to save a lot of time by buying the 
full set of Debian discs. I paid something like $26 
for all 8 DVDs at osdisc.com, and there are other vendors
also listed at http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/.

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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread Lisi
Hi, Felix,
On Tuesday 22 May 2012 11:20:14 felix chisoni wrote:
 This morning, I was trying to
 install it for testing. Whilst it was scanning the mirrors, It
 indicated this
 warning Bad archive mirror). It appears the reason is my poor
 internet connection. I am expecting to work overnight when the speed
 improves.

You are usually given a choice of mirror during installation.  Did this not 
happen?

I'm afraid that I do not know what 191.00mb-napoleon.um.se is. :-(

You should be able to install without a mirror from CD1.  You could then sort 
out mirrors once you had the distro installed.  I believe that the install CD 
should ask whether you want to sort out mirrors,  and you should be able to 
install without an Internet connection.  But I am not sure.  It is some time 
since I installed the system from CD.  I always use the netinstall CD.

Lisi


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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 May 2012 at 12:20:14 +0200, felix chisoni wrote:

[Snip]

 I have managed to downloaded the debian-6.0.5-i386-iso
 (191.00mb-napoleon.um.se) and copied it on a CD.  It is a small
 installation image from Debian website. This morning, I was trying to
 install it for testing. Whilst it was scanning the mirrors, It
 indicated this
 warning Bad archive mirror). It appears the reason is my poor
 internet connection. I am expecting to work overnight when the speed
 improves.
 
 I am not sure if I have made any mistake.

The problem is not particularily the speed but how reliable the
connection is and whether it has been configured correctly. You do not
mention any difficulty with setting up the network (you are using DHCP?)
but 'Bad archive mirror' can be the result of not being able to resolve
the mirror's address using DNS.

If it happens again do:

1. Switch to a console with Alt+F2 or Control+Alt+F2 and activate it.

2. Run the command 'wget 86.59.118.148' or 'wget 82.195.75.97'.

3. Run 'wget www.debian.org'.

If index.html is downloaded in step 2 but not in step 3 you have a DNS
issue.


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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread Lars Noodén
On 05/22/2012 01:20 PM, felix chisoni wrote:
 I have managed to downloaded the debian-6.0.5-i386-iso
 (191.00mb-napoleon.um.se) and copied it on a CD.

That is in Umeå, Sweden.  Your network connection to the repositories
might improve a lot if you choose a mirror site much closer to you
geographically.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread Brian
On Tue 22 May 2012 at 14:02:00 +0100, Brian wrote:

 2. Run the command 'wget 86.59.118.148' or 'wget 82.195.75.97'.
 
 3. Run 'wget www.debian.org'.

Correction: 'wget http://86.59.118.148' etc.


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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:20:14 +0200, felix chisoni wrote:

(...)

 I have managed to downloaded the debian-6.0.5-i386-iso
 (191.00mb-napoleon.um.se) and copied it on a CD.  It is a small
 installation image from Debian website. This morning, I was trying to
 install it for testing. Whilst it was scanning the mirrors, It indicated
 this
 warning Bad archive mirror). It appears the reason is my poor internet
 connection. I am expecting to work overnight when the speed improves.
 
 I am not sure if I have made any mistake.
 
 Please Help.

If you have a bad/poor Internet connection you better download the first 
ISO image (CD or DVD) and install from there -that is, from a local media 
source- so you don't have to depend on Internet glitches.

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Re: Help New Debian User to install

2012-05-22 Thread keith
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:20:16 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:20:14 +0200, felix chisoni wrote:
 
 (...)
 
  I have managed to downloaded the debian-6.0.5-i386-iso
  (191.00mb-napoleon.um.se) and copied it on a CD.  It is a small
  installation image from Debian website. This morning, I was trying to
  install it for testing. Whilst it was scanning the mirrors, It indicated
  this
  warning Bad archive mirror). It appears the reason is my poor internet
  connection. I am expecting to work overnight when the speed improves.
  
  I am not sure if I have made any mistake.
  
  Please Help.
 
 If you have a bad/poor Internet connection you better download the first 
 ISO image (CD or DVD) and install from there -that is, from a local media 
 source- so you don't have to depend on Internet glitches.
 
 Greetings,
 
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Preferably from an FTP server, if you get disconected, it should pick up from 
where it left off.

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Re: help on debian on Thinkpad R31

2011-06-02 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:13:16 +0100, Mao Xiaoan wrote:

 I am new to Linux. Yesterday, I installed Debian 6.0.1a on my Thinkpad
 R31 (2656 J2C). It was installed successfully, but in the end when it
 rebooted, the laptop monitor doesn't show anything (it is grey),
 although it is still working fine if I boot it to windows. I connected a
 stand-alone monitor to the laptop via VGA output, and switch to it by
 Fn+F7, there is display (1280 x 1024, 75Hz). The laptop monitor itself
 support display up to 1024 x 768, 60Hz.
 
 I don't know what could be wrong, so I don't know what more information
 should I provide to help identify the problem.
 
 Can anybody help please?

You may be hitting this bug:

xserver-xorg-video-intel: Intel 830MG keeps swapping blank/screen betw. 
VGA1/LVDS1
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623157

You could try with the hint provided there and see if that helps :-?

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Re: help on debian on Thinkpad R31

2011-06-01 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/01/11 at 08:13pm, Mao Xiaoan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am new to Linux. Yesterday, I installed Debian 6.0.1a on my Thinkpad
 R31 (2656 J2C). It was installed successfully, but in the end when it
 rebooted, the laptop monitor doesn't show anything (it is grey),
[snip] 
 I don't know what could be wrong, so I don't know what more
 information should I provide to help identify the problem.

Try booting to single user mode and see if that loads, first. There should 
already be an option in grub to do this if you followed the default install 
options.

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Re: help on debian on Thinkpad R31

2011-06-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 01 iun 11, 20:13:16, Mao Xiaoan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am new to Linux. Yesterday, I installed Debian 6.0.1a on my Thinkpad
 R31 (2656 J2C). It was installed successfully, but in the end when it
 rebooted, the laptop monitor doesn't show anything (it is grey),

Please tell us what is the last thing that you see on screen before it 
gets grey.

Regards,
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Re: Help Installing Debian

2011-05-22 Thread Arno Schuring
Klistvud (klist...@gmail.com on 2011-05-21 10:04 +0200):
 Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a):
 
 [snip]
 
  I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with
  moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?
 
 Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need
 a (tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed.
 There's no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS
 partition table).
Exactly. If you want to boot from a GPT-based disk with grub2 (and you
have a BIOS-based system), you need to create a partition for it. The
type is BIOS Boot Partition (gdisk type ef02, don't know how other
partitioning software handles it), and it can be as small as 64kB. I
usually use a partition size of 256kB just to be sure.

For a laugh, check out the GUID for the BBP on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition :)


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Re: Help Installing Debian

2011-05-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:35:42 +0530, Joy wrote:

  I am using IBM System X 3400 M3 with Raid1 and Raid5.
 Raid1 id being used to have Debian and raid5 for /home partiotion.

Are those raid over a hardware raid controller or you want to create a 
software based raid?

 Whenever i am trying to install it after creating a partition when it
 goes to format reboots my system. 

You can try to install Debian with the partitions already made and 
formatted, using the Gparted LiveCD.

 I have also tried lenny 5.8 which is not detecting my disk at all
 neither showing anything missing. 

Better than lenny is squeeze, now the current stable. If lenny was not 
detecting your hard disks that can mean that:

1/ Your hard disk controller is very new and the kernel shipped with 
lenny did not included the drivers for it.

2/ Your hard disk setup is not recognized by the installer (for instance, 
if you are using the BIOS sata raid facility and so you need to use 
dmraid, which I do not recommend at all).

 I have tried RHEL 5.4 which says can not create boot partition because
 og GPT partitioning scheme. I could  only manage to install RHEL 6
 successfully.

I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with 
moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?

Debian installer logs messages to console tty4, maybe you can jump into 
it at the partitioning stage to have more information about the error.

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Re: Help Installing Debian

2011-05-21 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a):

[snip]


I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with
moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?


Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need a  
(tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed. There's  
no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS partition  
table).


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Re: Help new Debian user

2010-06-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 01:37:22PM -0700, ABSDoug wrote:
 --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
  Read the replies you got to your previous mail ;)
  
  Regards,
  Andrei
  P.S. Sorry for the CC, I assumed you are not subscribed.
 
 
 Damn, I didn't see ANY responds to my post. But I'm seeing this one. Now what?

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Re: Help new Debian user

2010-06-08 Thread R. Tyson
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:37:22 -0700 (PDT)
ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
  Read the replies you got to your previous mail ;)
  
  Regards,
  Andrei
  P.S. Sorry for the CC, I assumed you are not subscribed.
 
 
 Damn, I didn't see ANY responds to my post. But I'm seeing this one. Now what?
 

Do what you did on the Ubuntu group ask endless questions and don't follow 
up on any advice.

Got to the stage where a number of guys accused you of being a troll.

Last I saw you were going to abandon Ubuntu (or Linux can't remember which), 
you are supposed to have quite a bit of experience of sorting out M$ Windows. 
You were going to file a bug report. Should I file a bug report. Will it help 
anyone if I file one? How do I file a bug report etc,etc,etc.


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Re: Help new Debian user

2010-06-08 Thread R. Tyson
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:24:25 +0100
R. Tyson tyso...@btinternet.com wrote:

 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:37:22 -0700 (PDT)
 ABSDoug absd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   
   Read the replies you got to your previous mail ;)
   
   Regards,
   Andrei
   P.S. Sorry for the CC, I assumed you are not subscribed.
  
  
  Damn, I didn't see ANY responds to my post. But I'm seeing this one. Now 
  what?
  
 
 Do what you did on the Ubuntu group ask endless questions and don't 
 follow up on any advice.
 
 Got to the stage where a number of guys accused you of being a troll.
 
 Last I saw you were going to abandon Ubuntu (or Linux can't remember which), 
 you are supposed to have quite a bit of experience of sorting out M$ Windows. 
 You were going to file a bug report. Should I file a bug report. Will it help 
 anyone if I file one? How do I file a bug report etc,etc,etc.

Oh I forgot
You had done several installs of the latest Ubuntu and your problem was... 
torrents wasn't working. Apart from that your Ubuntu installation was working 
but - you must have torrents !

Now it appears that you have even lost the knack of installing as well as still 
not discovering how to try and help yourself.



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Re: Help new Debian user

2010-06-07 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 07 iun 10, 11:02:46, ABSDoug wrote:
 I've been using Ubuntu for a couple years now. I want to try Debian. 
 I'm real weak on the terminal. When I was doing the GUI install, I 
 could not get a wireless connection(router is physically located in a 
 part of the house I DON'T rent). So now I boot up  get the terminal. 
 Trying to install Gnome got me no where. What do I do next? TIA!

Read the replies you got to your previous mail ;)

Regards,
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Re: Help new Debian user

2010-06-07 Thread ABSDoug
--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Read the replies you got to your previous mail ;)
 
 Regards,
 Andrei
 P.S. Sorry for the CC, I assumed you are not subscribed.


Damn, I didn't see ANY responds to my post. But I'm seeing this one. Now what?



  


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Re: help for Debian pppoe configuration

2009-03-13 Thread 明覺
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Asanka Ruwan Kumara 
asankaruwankum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Sir,
 i need to configure Debian proxy server using pppoe connection.
 i have already install Debian os with two NIC.but i have a problem,how to
 config pppoe connection

 i reffed below link and (http://users.telenet.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm)
 when its doing i had to stop running

 Execute the 'pppoeconf' (in /usr/sbin)
 # cd /usr/sbin
 # pppoeconf

 i want to know how to Execute the pppoeconf on terminal.

just run pppoeconf is enough, it will ask you to input username and password
of your adsl.


 and lf you have any recommended weblink about this pls send me.
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Re: help for Debian pppoe configuration

2009-03-13 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:45:16 +0600
Asanka Ruwan Kumara asankaruwankum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Sir,
 i need to configure Debian proxy server using pppoe connection.
 i have already install Debian os with two NIC.but i have a
 problem,how to config pppoe connection
 
 i reffed below link and
 (http://users.telenet.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm) when its doing i had
 to stop running
 
 Execute the 'pppoeconf' (in /usr/sbin)
 # cd /usr/sbin
 # pppoeconf

In a terminal, type 

su -c pppoeconf

and enter your root password and follow the instructions.

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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-10 Thread Steven Demetrius
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:14 +0800, Star Liu wrote:
 When I boot my debian sid 5 minutes ago, I got this error message:
 ---
 /dev/sda4: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually.(i.e., without
 -a or -p options)
 fsck died with exit status 4
 failed (code 4)
 An automatic file system check(fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A
 manual fsck must be performed. The fsck should be performed in
 maintance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode.
 failed!
 ---
 
 i have entered the maintance mode, but i don't know how to recover my
 filesystem. anyone can help me? thank you. this is the first time i
 encounter a serious problem with debian.
 

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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:21:55PM +0700, Steven Demetrius wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:14 +0800, Star Liu wrote:
  When I boot my debian sid 5 minutes ago, I got this error message:
  ---
  /dev/sda4: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually.(i.e., without
  -a or -p options)
  fsck died with exit status 4
  failed (code 4)
  An automatic file system check(fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A
  manual fsck must be performed. The fsck should be performed in
  maintance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode.
  failed!
  ---
  
  i have entered the maintance mode, but i don't know how to recover my
  filesystem. anyone can help me? thank you. this is the first time i
  encounter a serious problem with debian.
  
 
 Sounds like you have a defective HD.

Just because fsck conked out?  get real.

Of course, the problem on Debian is that maintenance mode (i.e.
single-user-mode) has already tried to mount all filesystems.  

Instead, try this:

At grub's menu, edit the kernel command line so that you add:

init=/bin/sh

This way, the kernel will boot, the initrd scripts will run, but insead
of normal init running (with the init scripts), you'll end up with the /
fs mounte ro and no init scripts having been run.  Its like booting a
LiveCD without being able to write anything.  You'll be able to run any
apps in /bin and /sbin.

You'll get a sh prompt.  Run the following (assuming that your root fs
is ext2 or ext3):

/sbin/e2fsck -C 0 -f -y /dev/sda4

This will run an fsck on /dev/sda4.  -C 0 gives you the progress
indicator, -f causes it to run even if it looks clean, and -y answers
yes to all fix? questions.

If you want to also check the drive for bad blocks, add:

-c -c

to the option list.  This will take a long time.

You may find that e2fsck has to be run a couple of time until no errors
are reported.

When you want to exit and try rebooting, since you've dillied with the
fs, I'd:

sync

halt

Ideally, halt would sync the disks, but the man page says that it can't
unless /proc is mounted.

When the system is halted, turn the power off, wait 15 seconds and
power on.

Alternatively, if you don't want to halt and power-cycle, but want to
immediatly try booting, do:

exec init

which will terminate your sh process and run the init process.

Good luck.

Doug.





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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-10 Thread Star Liu
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:21:55PM +0700, Steven Demetrius wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:14 +0800, Star Liu wrote:
  When I boot my debian sid 5 minutes ago, I got this error message:
  ---
  /dev/sda4: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually.(i.e., without
  -a or -p options)
  fsck died with exit status 4
  failed (code 4)
  An automatic file system check(fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A
  manual fsck must be performed. The fsck should be performed in
  maintance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode.
  failed!
  ---
 
  i have entered the maintance mode, but i don't know how to recover my
  filesystem. anyone can help me? thank you. this is the first time i
  encounter a serious problem with debian.
 

 Sounds like you have a defective HD.

 Just because fsck conked out?  get real.

 Of course, the problem on Debian is that maintenance mode (i.e.
 single-user-mode) has already tried to mount all filesystems.

 Instead, try this:

 At grub's menu, edit the kernel command line so that you add:

        init=/bin/sh
My debian sid now break more, after I add init-/bin/sh to the kernel
boot line, and reboot, the process dead at this message line:
kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

I cannot log into my system anymore, how could I resolve it? thank you.



 This way, the kernel will boot, the initrd scripts will run, but insead
 of normal init running (with the init scripts), you'll end up with the /
 fs mounte ro and no init scripts having been run.  Its like booting a
 LiveCD without being able to write anything.  You'll be able to run any
 apps in /bin and /sbin.

 You'll get a sh prompt.  Run the following (assuming that your root fs
 is ext2 or ext3):

        /sbin/e2fsck -C 0 -f -y /dev/sda4

 This will run an fsck on /dev/sda4.  -C 0 gives you the progress
 indicator, -f causes it to run even if it looks clean, and -y answers
 yes to all fix? questions.

 If you want to also check the drive for bad blocks, add:

        -c -c

 to the option list.  This will take a long time.

 You may find that e2fsck has to be run a couple of time until no errors
 are reported.

 When you want to exit and try rebooting, since you've dillied with the
 fs, I'd:

        sync

        halt

 Ideally, halt would sync the disks, but the man page says that it can't
 unless /proc is mounted.

 When the system is halted, turn the power off, wait 15 seconds and
 power on.

 Alternatively, if you don't want to halt and power-cycle, but want to
 immediatly try booting, do:

        exec init

 which will terminate your sh process and run the init process.

 Good luck.

 Doug.





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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-10 Thread Star Liu
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 01:21:55PM +0700, Steven Demetrius wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:14 +0800, Star Liu wrote:
  When I boot my debian sid 5 minutes ago, I got this error message:
  ---
  /dev/sda4: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually.(i.e., without
  -a or -p options)
  fsck died with exit status 4
  failed (code 4)
  An automatic file system check(fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A
  manual fsck must be performed. The fsck should be performed in
  maintance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode.
  failed!
  ---
 
  i have entered the maintance mode, but i don't know how to recover my
  filesystem. anyone can help me? thank you. this is the first time i
  encounter a serious problem with debian.
 

 Sounds like you have a defective HD.

 Just because fsck conked out?  get real.

 Of course, the problem on Debian is that maintenance mode (i.e.
 single-user-mode) has already tried to mount all filesystems.

 Instead, try this:

 At grub's menu, edit the kernel command line so that you add:

        init=/bin/sh
 My debian sid now break more, after I add init-/bin/sh to the kernel
 boot line, and reboot, the process dead at this message line:
 kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

 I cannot log into my system anymore, how could I resolve it? thank you.
a more detail error messages:
--
begin: mounting root file system begin:running /scripts/local-top ... done.
begin: running /scripts/local-premount... done
kjournald starting. commit interval  5 seconds
ext3-fs:mount filesystem with ordered data mode.
begin:running /script/local-bottom... done
done.
begin:running /script/init-bottom...done
mount:mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: invaild argument
run-init:/sbin/init:I/O error
kernel panic - not syncing:attempted to kill init!








 This way, the kernel will boot, the initrd scripts will run, but insead
 of normal init running (with the init scripts), you'll end up with the /
 fs mounte ro and no init scripts having been run.  Its like booting a
 LiveCD without being able to write anything.  You'll be able to run any
 apps in /bin and /sbin.

 You'll get a sh prompt.  Run the following (assuming that your root fs
 is ext2 or ext3):

        /sbin/e2fsck -C 0 -f -y /dev/sda4

 This will run an fsck on /dev/sda4.  -C 0 gives you the progress
 indicator, -f causes it to run even if it looks clean, and -y answers
 yes to all fix? questions.

 If you want to also check the drive for bad blocks, add:

        -c -c

 to the option list.  This will take a long time.

 You may find that e2fsck has to be run a couple of time until no errors
 are reported.

 When you want to exit and try rebooting, since you've dillied with the
 fs, I'd:

        sync

        halt

 Ideally, halt would sync the disks, but the man page says that it can't
 unless /proc is mounted.

 When the system is halted, turn the power off, wait 15 seconds and
 power on.

 Alternatively, if you don't want to halt and power-cycle, but want to
 immediatly try booting, do:

        exec init

 which will terminate your sh process and run the init process.

 Good luck.

 Doug.





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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-10 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:25:35 +0800, Star Liu (minxinjian...@gmail.com) 
wrote: 

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:

  At grub's menu, edit the kernel command line so that you add:
 
         init=/bin/sh


  My debian sid now break more, after I add init-/bin/sh to the kernel
  
It may just be a typo, but init-/bin/sh is not the same as
init=/bin/sh

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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-10 Thread Star Liu
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Bob Cox debian-u...@lists.bobcox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:25:35 +0800, Star Liu (minxinjian...@gmail.com) 
 wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:

  At grub's menu, edit the kernel command line so that you add:
 
         init=/bin/sh
            

  My debian sid now break more, after I add init-/bin/sh to the kernel
                                              
 It may just be a typo, but init-/bin/sh is not the same as
 init=/bin/sh
yes, in fact I added init=/bin/sh to the kernel command line, but it
seems the boot process haven't come here when it have died.


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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Star Liu
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I boot my debian sid 5 minutes ago, I got this error message:
 ---
 /dev/sda4: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually.(i.e., without
 -a or -p options)
 fsck died with exit status 4
 failed (code 4)
 An automatic file system check(fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A
 manual fsck must be performed. The fsck should be performed in
 maintance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode.
 failed!
 ---

 i have entered the maintance mode, but i don't know how to recover my
 filesystem. anyone can help me? thank you. this is the first time i
 encounter a serious problem with debian.

i have fixed it, just exe fsck /dev/sda4 and press enters :)


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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com [2009-03-09 21:20:59 +0800]:


 i have fixed it, just exe fsck /dev/sda4 and press enters :)
 
Sid's a mess right now...
Heh.
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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:42:52 +0700
Dave Patterson sdpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 * Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com [2009-03-09 21:20:59 +0800]:
 
 
  i have fixed it, just exe fsck /dev/sda4 and press enters :)
  
 Sid's a mess right now...

And nothing for untrained Debian users IMHO. 

Cheers,
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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de [2009-03-09 14:50:57 +0100]:

 
  Sid's a mess right now...
 
 And nothing for untrained Debian users IMHO. 

Yup, happens every time a new release goes out.  We try lotsa new stuff,
and it's not quite coordinated.  reportbug gets lots of exercise, and
upstream gets spanked.

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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:55:18 +0700
Dave Patterson sdpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 * Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de [2009-03-09 14:50:57 +0100]:
 
   Sid's a mess right now...
  
  And nothing for untrained Debian users IMHO. 
 
 Yup, happens every time a new release goes out.  We try lotsa new stuff,
 and it's not quite coordinated.  reportbug gets lots of exercise, and
 upstream gets spanked.

But it's cool to see all the stuff comes in and help testing the packages. 

Cheers, 
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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Dave Patterson escreveu:
 * Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com [2009-03-09 21:20:59 +0800]:
   
 i have fixed it, just exe fsck /dev/sda4 and press enters :)
 
  
 Sid's a mess right now...
 Heh.
   

I'd tend to agree, but I don't think this specific case is a problem
with sid. It's just the drive that needed a fsck. (Or is there a bug in
the init scripts that misinterprets fsck's return codes?)

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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de [2009-03-09 14:58:57 +0100]:

 
 But it's cool to see all the stuff comes in and help testing the packages. 

We do.  When I have time to play, I love to see what can be done with my
favorite stuff.  My road lappy is running Lenny - and is quite happy
with it.  I'll keep it there, for now.  Misery is a borked wifi
connection in a strange hotel.  With business pending.

At home, now, the monster box with all the new hardware is running
pure-dee Sid, and code is playing catch-up at the moment - it's fun.

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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-21 Thread Charles Swarts
On 10/20/07, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 It seems like a networking problem to me.

 Regards,
 Andrei



This looks like a network problem to me as well, perhaps DNS?  Try pinging
an external address by ip and see if you get a response?


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-21 Thread cls
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed wrote:
 Hi,
 I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
 went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
 When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
 choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
 also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.

Stop right there.  Get a Debian-based live CD.  If the Debian
installer has any chance of working, the live CD will work
all by itself automatically.  There is no point in trying to
do the Debian install if the live CD does not work.
Try this one.  http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
It's got most of Knoppix' hardware discovery but the image
is much smaller to download.

When the live CD comes up, get a shell and ping kernel.org.
If that works, cat /etc/resolv.conf and write down the
nameservers it found.  Run ifconfig and write down the IP
address that was assigned to your eth0 or wlan0.
Run route -n and write down your gateway address and netmask.

While you're at it, if The X Window System is working well
with your video card and mouse, copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf
someplace.  One way to do that is to log into a web-based
email and mail that file to yourself.  Finally, run lsmod
and mail yourself the list of modules the live CD
thinks it needed.  If you are really lucky, the live CD
figured out your sound card and sound works.  Try it.
Sound probably won't work out of the box with the Debian Etch
installer, and the live CD has figured out what you
will need to fix.  The answer is in the lsmod output.

Each piece of information you have just gathered is something
I have seen the live CDs do right and the Debian installer
screw up.  Letting the live CD do the work will save you a
*lot* of screwing around.

When you boot the Etch 4.0r1 installer, before it starts
looking for a network mirror, get a shell (F2, enter)
and cat /etc/resolv.conf, and run route -n.  If the
answers are not the same as what you got with the live CD,
that's your problem.  Do the base system install off your
netinst or CD 1 of 21 without the network.  It will
reboot and you can log in.  You'll have to edit
/etc/modules, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/apt/sources.list,
and /etc/network/interfaces.  Then you can use apt-get
or aptitude and install the stuff you want.


Cameron




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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 12:00:12AM -, Ed wrote:
 
 Here is the output of route on the machine in question.  192.168.1.1 is 
 correct for other computers on my home lan.
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
 Iface
 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
 eth0
 default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
 eth0

That looks ok for my unspecialist eyes. How did you configure your 
netcard (static or dhcp), can you ping the modem?

It seems like a networking problem to me.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread William Pursell

Ed wrote:

 Is there
a different install image I should download and use.  I was not too keen 
on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install.  Do you know 
which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?


I didn't notice anyone address this yet--
You can get a full system up and going with just the first CD.


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
The internet service provider could have an outage in the area or the 
modem/router may need updating.  With a web browser what happens when you 
surf to http://192.168.1.1/?  If you get the modem, it could need 
reconfiguring or updating.





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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 10:54:51PM -, Ed wrote:
 
 I am not really sure.  This is an old computer, but years ago, it had 
 Redhat Linux 7 and Windows 95 dual boot running fine.  As time went by, 
 this computer was replaces with newer ones and slowly became obsolete.  
 Now I want to revive it and probably make it a print server, and maybe 
 web browser only machine, only running linux.  I have never used debian 
 before, but heard it was a good candidate for an old machine.  On my 
 other machines I run fedora 6 or 7. (and yes, I run Windows 2000 or XP)
 
 Is there a way I can find out the network card and driver without taking 
 the machine apart.  It is in kind of a hard place to get at right now.

Just do a minimal install from the netinst.iso.  When you get to
choosing a mirror, choose none.  Let it try to contact
security.debian.org, which will fail, but it will put a commented-out
line in your sources.list file.  

When you get to task selector, deselect everything.  You will then just
get a base install minimal system.

When you boot into the system and log in for the first time, you can
type:
# dmesg | less

and look for what hardware was found.  The dmesg is a ring-buffer that
is filled by the kernel as hardware is found by the drivers.  You should
see everything.

However, if this computer doesn't have a PCI bus but instead and
ISA/EISA bus, then there may be some more work to do since the hardware
set-up is different and not so automatic.

What kind of computer is this:

Processor:
Memory:
Hard drive space:
System bus type:

As long as you are able to install a base system, dmesg will tell you
most of this.

Doug.


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Vincent Frentzel
On Friday 19 October 2007 22:51:05 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 07:47:21PM -, Ed wrote:
  On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
   On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -, Ed wrote:
   Hi,
   I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The
   install went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package
   Manager'. When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network
   mirror and I choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose
   'http' although I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks
   for a country and I choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive
   mirror.  I have tried nearly all, but currently I am trying ' '.

Have you tried simply leaving the apt system unconfigured, booting the 
installed system and then setting it up. I might be wrong, but maybe it s a 
problem with the installer.

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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Tim DeWall


- Original Message - 
From: Sam Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Help with Debian Install



Ed wrote:

Hi,
I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have tried
nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'.  It asks
if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian 
archive mirror
is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it. 
Please try a dirrerent
mirror.  This happens no matter which mirror I choose.  I am new to 
Debian

and unfamiliar with its tools.  Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Ed Doyle




What kind of network card is in the computer?  It sounds like the driver 
for it is not getting loaded or something.


Sam


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -, Ed wrote:
 I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
 went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
 When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
 choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
 also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
 choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have tried
 nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'.  It asks
 if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
 scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
 seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian 
 archive mirror
 is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.  
 Please try a dirrerent
 mirror.  This happens no matter which mirror I choose.  I am new to 
 Debian
 and unfamiliar with its tools.  Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Perhaps don't use a mirror, just install base and get a minimal debian
system.  Then you can use the full power of debian to help solve the
problem without an installer UI getting in the way.

Doug.


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Ed
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:20:07 +0200, Sam Leon wrote:

 Ed wrote:
 Hi,
 I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
 went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
 When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
 choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although
 I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
 choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have
 tried nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'. 
 It asks if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'.
 Then it says scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem.
 After a few seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified
 Debian archive mirror
 is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.
 Please try a dirrerent
 mirror.  This happens no matter which mirror I choose.  I am new to
 Debian
 and unfamiliar with its tools.  Any help or advice would be
 appreciated. Thanks
 Ed Doyle
 
 
 
 What kind of network card is in the computer?  It sounds like the driver
 for it is not getting loaded or something.
 
 Sam

I am not really sure.  This is an old computer, but years ago, it had 
Redhat Linux 7 and Windows 95 dual boot running fine.  As time went by, 
this computer was replaces with newer ones and slowly became obsolete.  
Now I want to revive it and probably make it a print server, and maybe 
web browser only machine, only running linux.  I have never used debian 
before, but heard it was a good candidate for an old machine.  On my 
other machines I run fedora 6 or 7. (and yes, I run Windows 2000 or XP)

Is there a way I can find out the network card and driver without taking 
the machine apart.  It is in kind of a hard place to get at right now.

Thanks

Ed


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Ed
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:00:16 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 07:47:21PM -, Ed wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -, Ed wrote:
  Hi,
  I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The
  install went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package
  Manager'. When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network
  mirror and I choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose
  'http' although I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks
  for a country and I choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a
  archive mirror.  I have tried nearly all, but currently I am trying
  ' '.
  
  have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2)
  and try pinging various addresses.
  
  
 You are on the right track.  I can NOT ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu or
 it's ip address which is 169.229.49.36. I can ping other computers on
 my home network.  The modem I was referring to is my dsl modem.  The
 install CD has not reported any errors up to the point I mention above.
  Is there a different install image I should download and use.  I was
 not too keen on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD
 install.  Do you know which ones I would need just for gnome and
 firefox for starters?
 
 okay, you can ping your local net, but not outside it. how about posting
 the output of
 
 route
 
 on the machine in question while installing
 
 I'm guessing there's no default route which you could get with
 
 route add default gw ip.address.of.your.gateway
 
 A

Here is the output of route on the machine in question.  192.168.1.1 is 
correct for other computers on my home lan.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
eth0


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 07:47:21PM -, Ed wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -, Ed wrote:
  Hi,
  I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
  went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
  When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
  choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although
  I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
  choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have
  tried nearly all, but currently I am trying ' '. 
  
  have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2) and
  try pinging various addresses.
  
 
 You are on the right track.  I can NOT ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu or 
 it's ip address which is 169.229.49.36. I can ping other computers on my 
 home network.  The modem I was referring to is my dsl modem.  The install 
 CD has not reported any errors up to the point I mention above.  Is there 
 a different install image I should download and use.  I was not too keen 
 on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install.  Do you know 
 which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?

okay, you can ping your local net, but not outside it. how about
posting the output of 

route

on the machine in question while installing

I'm guessing there's no default route which you could get with 

route add default gw ip.address.of.your.gateway

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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Ed
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -, Ed wrote:
 Hi,
 I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
 went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
 When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
 choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although
 I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
 choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have
 tried nearly all, but currently I am trying ' '. 
 It asks if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'.
 Then it says scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem.
 After a few seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified
 Debian
 
 have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2) and
 try pinging various addresses.
 
 btw, what modem are you talking about here?
 
 A

You are on the right track.  I can NOT ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu or 
it's ip address which is 169.229.49.36. I can ping other computers on my 
home network.  The modem I was referring to is my dsl modem.  The install 
CD has not reported any errors up to the point I mention above.  Is there 
a different install image I should download and use.  I was not too keen 
on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install.  Do you know 
which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?
Thanks
Ed


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Sam Leon

Ed wrote:

Hi,
I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have tried
nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'.  It asks
if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian 
archive mirror
is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.  
Please try a dirrerent
mirror.  This happens no matter which mirror I choose.  I am new to 
Debian

and unfamiliar with its tools.  Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Ed Doyle




What kind of network card is in the computer?  It sounds like the driver 
for it is not getting loaded or something.


Sam


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Miguel J.
El vie, 19-10-2007 a las 17:23 +, Ed escribió:
 Hi,
 I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
 went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
 When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
 choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
 also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
 choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have tried
 nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'.  It asks
 if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
 scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
 seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian 
 archive mirror
 is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.  
 Please try a dirrerent
 mirror.  This happens no matter which mirror I choose.  I am new to 
 Debian
 and unfamiliar with its tools.  Any help or advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks
 Ed Doyle


That happened to me once using an etch install CD... The same problem
you described; I think is a bug with the installer because the problem
went away when I tried to install a testing distribution.


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -, Ed wrote:
 Hi,
 I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso.  The install
 went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
 When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
 choose 'yes'.  It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
 also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.  Next it asks for a country and I
 choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror.  I have tried
 nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'.  It asks
 if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
 scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
 seconds it reports that Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian 

have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2) and
try pinging various addresses. 

btw, what modem are you talking about here?

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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-21 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:19:56 +0200
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:55:26 -0600
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  On 02/19/07 13:48, Andrei Popescu wrote:
   On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:44:10 -0600
   Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a
   Reply To List option.
   It has three buttons:
  
   o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
 If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
 configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.
  
   o All: Reply to all
  
   o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)
   Bummer.  You need a better MUA.
   
   Please enlighten me.
  
  Well, there's mutt which is TUI.  GNOME Evolution has Reply To List,
  and Icedove has an extension which adds Reply To List.  That's what
  I use.
 
 As I said before, the Reply button acts as Reply-to-list in case of a
 mailing list. No problem here. The thing I'm not sure of is what is
 the correct thing to do if the poster has set a Reply-To: header.

And besides, there's the menu item 'Message / Reply to / mailing list',
which is hotkeyed by default to Ctrl-l, and can be changed by editing
~/sylpheed[-2.0]/menurc, or by the neat gtk-can-change-accels option in
~/.gtkrc[-2.0], followed by customizing the accels from within sylpheed
itself (see the sylpheed README.gz). A well designed GUI app such as
sylpheed has / can have many of the shortcuts of a TUI.

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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-20 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Ron Johnson wrote:
 Well, there's mutt which is TUI.  GNOME Evolution has Reply To List,
 and Icedove has an extension which adds Reply To List.  That's what
 I use.
I've tried (several times) finding that extension. Care to tell what it
is called?
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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-20 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 10:54:12AM +0100 or thereabouts, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
  Well, there's mutt which is TUI.  GNOME Evolution has Reply To List,
  and Icedove has an extension which adds Reply To List.  That's what
  I use.
 I've tried (several times) finding that extension. Care to tell what it
 is called?

Reply-To-List and it's available via the extesnions web page that should
be shown in your Thunderbird/Icedove preferences.

BTW when it comes to such applications, I've always preferred the
upstream versions since they are updated quite frequently, often faster
than Debian can react.

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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:54 +0100, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
  Well, there's mutt which is TUI.  GNOME Evolution has Reply To List,
  and Icedove has an extension which adds Reply To List.  That's what
  I use.
 I've tried (several times) finding that extension. Care to tell what it
 is called?

enigmail

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Re: ..Sylpheed address line bug: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:15:29 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:20:47 GMT, s. wrote in message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT s. keeling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My .sig explicitly says not to Cc: me, and that's ignored too. 
Why am
   
Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To:
address to the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the
purpose of the Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle
this correctly.
  
  I use mutt for mail which has a Reply To List feature (L).  I
  don't know if S-C provides that or not.
 
 ..I see how wrong Sylpheed-gtk1-1.0.6 and|or you et al handle this: 
 Sg1 has 4 options, _R_eply, R-t-_A_ll, also on its own gui button,
 R-t-_S_ender and R-t-mailing _l_ist.  _All_ of them options puts
 _you_, s.keeling, on the To:  line, and only R-t-A will cc D-U.  
 _None_ of the options lists [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 but maybe that's a feature.
 
 ..Hiroyuki-san might wanna join us here?   ;o)

..having tested on my own msg and a few others, I guess he'd be pleased
to see whom's ass to sink pitchforks into, s.keeling.  ;o)

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Re: Saving threads (was Re: help with debian)

2007-02-19 Thread Niels Rasmussen
Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 02/18/07 22:46, Kent West wrote:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
 It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
 fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
 really important.
   
 Not meaning to take sides, but I myself don't keep up with threads; I
 deal with a message, then toss it and the related messages. If another
 
 Why not?  Pressing M (to Mark As Read) is just as easy as pressing Del.

Why not just press the Spacebar ?

This IMHO the best feature in Icedove!

Keep pressing the Spacebar makes you read all the post in all the folders
rather quickly :)



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[OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread s. keeling
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
  s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [snip]
 
  I think you are overreacting a bit.

Oh?  About what?

I'm serious.  You snipped the context too, so anyone coming across
this post will have no idea what we're talking about, unless they've
been following the thread.

  For people following the thread I
  think it was pretty obvious what he meant and for people searching the

I noted the mysql/postgresql flamewar in passing.  I didn't bother to
read it (it just wasn't relevant to me).  Now, some nitwit posts one
line, prefaced by an irrelevant Subject: line, and I'm supposed to
know what he's talking about, or it's my responsibility to dig into
the archives to discover the context?  Why?

One of the main reasons I read these lists is I might be able to help
someone with problems they're having.  Encouraging bad behaviour on
the list is just asking people like me to find some other, less
irritating, way to do that.

BTW: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/

   When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a
   carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly
   request to be copied.

My .sig explicitly says not to Cc: me, and that's ignored too.  Why am
I forced to explicitly request not to be Cc:'d when that is list
policy?  Because people are slack and can't be bothered to learn the
rules anymore.


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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
   s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   [snip]
  
   I think you are overreacting a bit.
 
 Oh?  About what?
 
 I'm serious.  You snipped the context too, so anyone coming across
 this post will have no idea what we're talking about, unless they've
 been following the thread.

It's difficult to find the perfect balance of snipping ...

 BTW: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
 
When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a
carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly
request to be copied.
 
 My .sig explicitly says not to Cc: me, and that's ignored too.  Why am
 I forced to explicitly request not to be Cc:'d when that is list
 policy?  Because people are slack and can't be bothered to learn the
 rules anymore.

Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To: address to
the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the purpose of the
Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle this correctly.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/19/07 10:44, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT
 s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
  s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [snip]
[snip]
 Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To: address to
 the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the purpose of the
 Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle this correctly.

The Reply-To: header tells it where to reply to.  That does not
control whether you click on Reply To All or not.

(It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a Reply
To List option.
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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread s. keeling
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  My .sig explicitly says not to Cc: me, and that's ignored too.  Why am
 
  Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To: address to
  the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the purpose of the
  Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle this correctly.

I use mutt for mail which has a Reply To List feature (L).  I
don't know if S-C provides that or not.


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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:22:53 -0600
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On 02/19/07 10:44, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT
  s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
   s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   [snip]
 [snip]
  Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To: address
  to the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the purpose of
  the Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle this
  correctly.
 
 The Reply-To: header tells it where to reply to.  That does not
 control whether you click on Reply To All or not.
 
 (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a Reply
 To List option.

It has three buttons:

o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
  If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
  configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.

o All: Reply to all

o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)

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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/19/07 11:52, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:22:53 -0600
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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 On 02/19/07 10:44, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT
 s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
  s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  [snip]
 [snip]
 Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To: address
 to the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the purpose of
 the Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle this
 correctly.
 The Reply-To: header tells it where to reply to.  That does not
 control whether you click on Reply To All or not.

 (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a Reply
 To List option.
 
 It has three buttons:
 
 o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
   If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
   configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.
 
 o All: Reply to all
 
 o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)

Bummer.  You need a better MUA.

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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:44:10 -0600
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a
  Reply To List option.
  
  It has three buttons:
  
  o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.
  
  o All: Reply to all
  
  o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)
 
 Bummer.  You need a better MUA.

Please enlighten me.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread s. keeling
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:44:10 -0600
  Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a
   Reply To List option.
   
   It has three buttons:
   
   o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
 If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
 configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.
   
   o All: Reply to all
   
   o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)
  
  Bummer.  You need a better MUA.
 
  Please enlighten me.

mutt, at least, has Reply To List.  It knows that L means to reply to
the list address, not the message's author.  There must be GUI mailers
that support this too, if you need a GUI MUA.

btw, I've since commented out set replyto ... in my .slrnrc, so you
shouldn't see a Reply-To: in this post (though I'm not yet sure that's
a bright thing to do).  If that's the right thing to do, perhaps this
is what was confusing S-C.  If so, my apologies.

Also btw, I read the list via a mail to news gateway which is why I'm
using a newsreader to interact with the mailing list.


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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/19/07 13:48, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:44:10 -0600
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a
 Reply To List option.
 It has three buttons:

 o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
   If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
   configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.

 o All: Reply to all

 o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)
 Bummer.  You need a better MUA.
 
 Please enlighten me.

Well, there's mutt which is TUI.  GNOME Evolution has Reply To List,
and Icedove has an extension which adds Reply To List.  That's what
I use.
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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:55:26 -0600
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On 02/19/07 13:48, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:44:10 -0600
  Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  (It's been a while since I used Sylpheed, but I think it has a
  Reply To List option.
  It has three buttons:
 
  o Reply: Reply-to-list for lists or simple reply for normal mail.
If a Reply-To: is set then it gets added to Cc:. This is not
configurable, so I would have to delete the address by hand.
 
  o All: Reply to all
 
  o Sender: Reply only to sender (listmail or not)
  Bummer.  You need a better MUA.
  
  Please enlighten me.
 
 Well, there's mutt which is TUI.  GNOME Evolution has Reply To List,
 and Icedove has an extension which adds Reply To List.  That's what
 I use.

As I said before, the Reply button acts as Reply-to-list in case of a
mailing list. No problem here. The thing I'm not sure of is what is
the correct thing to do if the poster has set a Reply-To: header.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:19:56AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
 As I said before, the Reply button acts as Reply-to-list in case of a
 mailing list. No problem here. The thing I'm not sure of is what is
 the correct thing to do if the poster has set a Reply-To: header.
 
I believe that on a list, the correct header to observe is the M-F-T
header.  The R-T header might be set in the case that someone wishes to
receive email at an alias which is different from the source address of
the real email account.

Besides, it is considered bad form for the Reply-To to be munged to
point to the list: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Now, if the user does it, that is one thing.  But M-F-T is the more
appropriate header.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Saving threads (was Re: help with debian)

2007-02-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:39:12 +0100, Niels wrote in message 
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 Keep pressing the Spacebar makes you read all the post in all the
 folders rather quickly :)

..define quickly.  ;o)

..yes, I _have_ spent 8hour days here, which would have worked for me
had I not tried to also help out at Groklaw.net and make a living.  That
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..Sylpheed address line bug: [OT] Re: help with debian

2007-02-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:20:47 GMT, s. wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:31:07 GMT s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
   My .sig explicitly says not to Cc: me, and that's ignored too. 
   Why am
  
   Hhhm, Sylpheed-Claws is automatically adding the Reply-To: address
   to the Cc:. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought this was the purpose of
   the Reply-To: header and I trusted Sylpheed to handle this
   correctly.
 
 I use mutt for mail which has a Reply To List feature (L).  I
 don't know if S-C provides that or not.

..I see how wrong Sylpheed-gtk1-1.0.6 and|or you et al handle this: 
Sg1 has 4 options, _R_eply, R-t-_A_ll, also on its own gui button,
R-t-_S_ender and R-t-mailing _l_ist.  _All_ of them options puts _you_,
s.keeling, on the To:  line, and only R-t-A will cc D-U.  
_None_ of the options lists [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
but maybe that's a feature.

..Hiroyuki-san might wanna join us here?   ;o)

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Re: help with debian

2007-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
  boast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   thanks. It was syslog2mysql.sh
 
  See what you get for using MySQL?
 
  WTF are you talking about?!?
 
  Steve, has the cold, Quebec (or is it Ontario, I keep forgetting)
  wind frozen your brain?

Clueless luser boasty posts an answer (to what?!?), providing no
context, quoting no-one or anything, prefaced by a useless and
inappropriate Subject: line ...

boasty apparently doesn't know how ridiculous this looks.  Now
that it's brought to his attention, he has an opportunity to learn.

Just doing my bit in the war on entropy.


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Re: help with debian

2007-02-18 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/18/07 10:28, s. keeling wrote:
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
 boast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  thanks. It was syslog2mysql.sh
  See what you get for using MySQL?

 WTF are you talking about?!?
  Steve, has the cold, Quebec (or is it Ontario, I keep forgetting)
  wind frozen your brain?
 
 Clueless luser boasty posts an answer (to what?!?), providing no
 context, quoting no-one or anything, prefaced by a useless and
 inappropriate Subject: line ...

Google is your friend.

http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/syslog-ng.htm

Setup syslog-ng to MySQL pipe

An example for a script that feeds log entries from the
FIFO pipe to MySQL is included in the scripts directory.
The script is called syslog2mysql.sh.

 boasty apparently doesn't know how ridiculous this looks.  Now
 that it's brought to his attention, he has an opportunity to learn.

Other people were able to decipher his OP.

 Just doing my bit in the war on entropy.

No, just making yourself look like a bitter old Quebecois.
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Re: help with debian

2007-02-18 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On 02/18/07 10:28, s. keeling wrote:
  Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
  boast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   thanks. It was syslog2mysql.sh
   See what you get for using MySQL?
 
  WTF are you talking about?!?
   Steve, has the cold, Quebec (or is it Ontario, I keep forgetting)
   wind frozen your brain?
  
  Clueless luser boasty posts an answer (to what?!?), providing no
  context, quoting no-one or anything, prefaced by a useless and
  inappropriate Subject: line ...
 
  Google is your friend.
 
  http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/syslog-ng.htm

This is not The Web.  This is a mailing list, and a gated to Usenet
mailing list for me.  I don't read this list in a browser, nor should
I have to.  There's lots of resources out there where people can go to
learn how it should be done.  I doubt many of them _expect_ me to have
to dig back into archives in order to learn the context of a clueless
luser's inadequate reply.

  boasty apparently doesn't know how ridiculous this looks.  Now
  that it's brought to his attention, he has an opportunity to learn.
 
  Other people were able to decipher his OP.

As I could have too.  This is a mailing list or newsfroup, not a web
forum.

  Just doing my bit in the war on entropy.
 
  No, just making yourself look like a bitter old Quebecois.

And you're helping the idiots out there corrupt what works well and
has worked well for quite some time.  You want to read a web forum, go
find one.  This is not it.

How's that Cajun of yours coming along?


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Re: help with debian

2007-02-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:45:10 GMT
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

I think you are overreacting a bit. For people following the thread I
think it was pretty obvious what he meant and for people searching the
archives it would be the same, as they would have read the entire
thread at once.

It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
really important.

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Re: help with debian

2007-02-18 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/18/07 13:45, s. keeling wrote:
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 02/18/07 10:28, s. keeling wrote:
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
 boast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[snip]
 How's that Cajun of yours coming along?

Dunno.  Divorced her 16(?) years ago.

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Re: help with debian

2007-02-18 Thread Kent West
Andrei Popescu wrote:
 It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
 fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
 really important.
   

Not meaning to take sides, but I myself don't keep up with threads; I
deal with a message, then toss it and the related messages. If another
message comes in two hours later, I expect context, or lacking that, am
willing sometimes to go find the archive if I need a reminder for my
short-sighted Quick-On-the-Delete-button habit.

It's understandable that a newbie posting will expect others on the list
to remember him and his posts, even if they're only two minutes old.
(After all, they're important to the poster, so they _must_ be important
to others also.) But even so, that expectation is wrong and rude.


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Saving threads (was Re: help with debian)

2007-02-18 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/18/07 22:46, Kent West wrote:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
 It would have been better to quote a few lines, but the thread is still
 fresh. It's not like he posted to an age-old thread, where context is
 really important.
   
 
 Not meaning to take sides, but I myself don't keep up with threads; I
 deal with a message, then toss it and the related messages. If another

Why not?  Pressing M (to Mark As Read) is just as easy as pressing Del.


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Re: help with debian

2007-02-17 Thread s. keeling
boast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  thanks. It was syslog2mysql.sh
 
 

WTF are you talking about?!?


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Re: help with debian

2007-02-17 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 02/17/07 16:43, s. keeling wrote:
 boast [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  thanks. It was syslog2mysql.sh

See what you get for using MySQL?

 WTF are you talking about?!?

Steve, has the cold, Quebec (or is it Ontario, I keep forgetting)
wind frozen your brain?

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Re: help with debian

2007-02-14 Thread boast


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Re: help with debian start-up freezing

2007-02-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 12:22:53PM -0800, James Smith wrote:
 Debian sarge k2.6
  
  Startup stuck on starting openbsd secure shell server...
  
  I had done a 'apt-get upgrade' and on reboot, debian gets stuck on Starting 
 openbsd secure shell server: sshd
  
  And In recovery mode, restarting the computer, it gets stuck on stopping 
 openbsd secure shell server: sshd
  
  i removed ssh, but now it freezes after starting up samba daemons

this is likely some networking problem that is causing theses network
services to bomb. First, does it get stuck forever? how long have
you waited? I would think these things should time out eventually, but
maybe not. 

you can boot up a live cd (the installer would work too, probably) and
chroot into the install, use update-rc.d to remove the problem
services one a time til you can get a good boot. Then sort your
networking and bring the services back online.

of course, from the live cd/chroot, you can probably just figure out
your networking problem and solve it without ever having to disable
any services. also, you can view the logs... 

send us any relevant log messages and contents of
/etc/network/interfaces.

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Re: help with debian start-up freezing

2007-02-09 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 12:57:20PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 12:22:53PM -0800, James Smith wrote:
   Startup stuck on starting openbsd secure shell server...
   i removed ssh, but now it freezes after starting up samba daemons
 
 this is likely some networking problem that is causing theses network
 services to bomb. First, does it get stuck forever? how long have
 you waited? I would think these things should time out eventually, but
 maybe not. 
 
 you can boot up a live cd (the installer would work too, probably) and
 chroot into the install, use update-rc.d to remove the problem
 services one a time til you can get a good boot. Then sort your
 networking and bring the services back online.
 

Without a live CD you can boot single.  Networking comes up under
/etc/rcS.d, whereas ssh comes up under /etc/rc2.d.  Once you're in
single user mode, you can cd into /etc/rc2.d and start each script in
turn, skipping any that make sense to skip until you narrow down the
culprits.  

Doug.


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Re: Help needed: Debian Sarge, Postfix/TLS and Magma's mail.

2006-03-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Walt Sullivan wrote:

 How can I tell Postfix to either authenticate sucessfully or to not try to 
 authenticate at
 all?
 
 Here's a snippet from /var/log/mail.warn that may help
 
 Mar 14 12:58:11 orbit postfix/smtpd[14670]: fatal: no SASL authentication 
 mechanisms
 Mar 14 12:58:12 orbit postfix/master[14650]: warning: process 
 /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid
 14670 exit status 1
 Mar 14 12:58:12 orbit postfix/master[14650]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: 
 bad command
 startup -- throttling
 
 
 I have several SASL packages installed:
 $ dpkg -l | grep -i sasl
 ii  gsasl  0.2.5-1GNU SASL commandline utility
 ii  libgsasl7  0.2.5-1GNU SASL library
 ii  libsasl2   2.1.19-1.5 Authentication abstraction library
 ii  postfix-tls2.1.5-9TLS and SASL support for Postfix
 ii  sasl2-bin  2.1.19-1.5 Programs for manipulating the SASL users dat
 
 but I obviously don't know how to get Postfix to work with SASL. 

Did you try installing libsasl2-modules?  That did the trick on my system.

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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-12 Thread Rodney Richison

I personally prefer emacs, but it doesn't really have a graphical HTML
edit mode that I'm aware of.  Perhaps somebody else here on the list can
make a better suggestion for a GUI HTML editor.




Have a look at NVU.



 Quanta Plus is pretty good.  It has a page editor that generates the HTML 
coding, plus it has dialog windows for developing CSS files and other various 
items like tables or forms.


  


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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:10:52AM -0700, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:
 Hello, my name is Sandra Holden, 
 
 We are in the process of creating a website for our company.  We have a
 domain name cuthbertsmith.com which we aquired through Roger Rendek at
 Caisnet.  
 
 So, when I type in the domain name, it opens up to this Debian/Apache page
 Welcome to your new home in cyberspace.
 
 I am not a computer programmer, but feel fairly confident in my computer
 skills, I have created my website using FrontPage.  I need to know how to
 now upload my website to our webpage.
 
 I have tried reading your information but find it fairly technical.  Would
 someone please help me with this?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Sandra
 
 Cuthbert Smith Consulting Partnership Inc.
Hi Sandra,
The apache server can server static and dynamic web pages. At the
moment, you suggest that you can create static webpages. But you at the
moment do not have the familiarity with the process of transferring web
pages to your web server. This would usually be accomplished with one of
two tool: ftp or ssh. I would suggest getting assisance from the folks
hosting your server. Beyond that I'd suggest a trip to a local library,
browse google for 'basic file upload' or browsing a book store and
looking for the o'riley books. And of course you may want to hire a
consultant to give your a basic tutorial or even hire someone to do the
pages. There is also another option that may require some extra effort.
You could try to learn some stuff about Gnu/Linux at a local linux users
group (aka a LUG). Most are very helpful and welcoming to new users.
There is one caveat: web pages are meant to represent professionalism,
so if you can not do justice to the web site by the standards of the
partners, it is worth it to hire someone to create something that
represents your organization.
feel free to ask more question.
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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-11 Thread Anthony Simonelli
On Friday 10 February 2006 11:52 am, ke6isf wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:
  First off, Im not sure what you mean to persue /etc/apache/httpd.conf, do
  I type that in the web browser or look for it in my explorer.

 Neither.  You'll have to be logged into your web server in order to locate
 this file, preferably by way of ssh or direct access at the console.

 You now have me curious, what's this server's history, and how did you get
 your hands on it?  Vaguely important, how familiar are you with Unix-like
 environments?

  Secondly, if you dont support Frontpage, what do you recommend I use,
  bearing in mind I dont know how to write programs, I am pretty much a
  wisywig type person or window environment.

 I personally prefer emacs, but it doesn't really have a graphical HTML
 edit mode that I'm aware of.  Perhaps somebody else here on the list can
 make a better suggestion for a GUI HTML editor.

 -Dennis Carr

 Quanta Plus is pretty good.  It has a page editor that generates the HTML 
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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread ke6isf
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

 I am not a computer programmer, but feel fairly confident in my computer
 skills, I have created my website using FrontPage.  I need to know how to
 now upload my website to our webpage.

Not being one to support Frontpage (and, in fact, considering it extremely
harmful), I can tell you that, under its default configuration, Apache
will expect your HTML data to livein /var/www/html somewhere.  You can get
clues on exactly where by perusing /etc/apache/httpd.conf.  Upload
accordingly.

-Dennis Carr


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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread ke6isf
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

 First off, Im not sure what you mean to persue /etc/apache/httpd.conf, do
 I type that in the web browser or look for it in my explorer.

Neither.  You'll have to be logged into your web server in order to locate
this file, preferably by way of ssh or direct access at the console.

You now have me curious, what's this server's history, and how did you get
your hands on it?  Vaguely important, how familiar are you with Unix-like
environments?

 Secondly, if you dont support Frontpage, what do you recommend I use,
 bearing in mind I dont know how to write programs, I am pretty much a
 wisywig type person or window environment.

I personally prefer emacs, but it doesn't really have a graphical HTML
edit mode that I'm aware of.  Perhaps somebody else here on the list can
make a better suggestion for a GUI HTML editor.

-Dennis Carr


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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Cuthbert Smith Consulting





ke6isf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not being one to support Frontpage (and, in fact, considering it extremely
harmful), I can tell you that, under its default configuration, Apache
will expect your HTML data to livein /var/www/html somewhere. You can get
clues on exactly where by perusing /etc/apache/httpd.conf. Upload
accordingly.

Thanks for your quick response.

First off, Im not sure what you mean to persue /etc/apache/httpd.conf, do I type that in the web browser or look for it in my explorer.

Secondly, if you dont support Frontpage, what do you recommend I use, bearing in mind I dont know how to write programs, I am pretty much a wisywig type person or window environment.

Our website is pretty basic, a home page with an animated logo (I created using RAVE) and then the rest of the pages are basic text, photos, and hyperlinks.

Sandra

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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:52:10 -0800 (PST)
ke6isf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:
 
  First off, Im not sure what you mean to persue /etc/apache/httpd.conf, do
  I type that in the web browser or look for it in my explorer.
 
 Neither.  You'll have to be logged into your web server in order to locate
 this file, preferably by way of ssh or direct access at the console.
 
 You now have me curious, what's this server's history, and how did you get
 your hands on it?  Vaguely important, how familiar are you with Unix-like
 environments?
 
  Secondly, if you dont support Frontpage, what do you recommend I use,
  bearing in mind I dont know how to write programs, I am pretty much a
  wisywig type person or window environment.
 
 I personally prefer emacs, but it doesn't really have a graphical HTML
 edit mode that I'm aware of.  Perhaps somebody else here on the list can
 make a better suggestion for a GUI HTML editor.
 
 -Dennis Carr
 

His website is running apache on debian, but I *think* he is a windows user 
trying to figure out how to get in and set up his webpage. on that I have no 
advice, but others may.

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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 10 February 2006 12:37, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:
ke6isf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not being one to support Frontpage (and, in fact, considering it
 extremely harmful),

Not only harmfull, but a web page created by frontpage has yet to pass 
the w3c consortium sites html validation suite test.  In short its 
busted.  But it works with IE, so thats what counts for M$. :(

 I can tell you that, under its default 
 configuration, Apache will expect your HTML data to livein
 /var/www/html somewhere.  You can get clues on exactly where by
 perusing /etc/apache/httpd.conf.  Upload accordingly.

Thanks for your quick response.

First off, Im not sure what you mean to persue /etc/apache/httpd.conf,
 do I type that in the web browser or look for it in my explorer.

Secondly, if you dont support Frontpage, what do you recommend I use,
bearing in mind I dont know how to write programs, I am pretty much a
wisywig type person or window environment.

You may want to look at Quanta Plus, and there's another one thats 
considered pretty good but its name has faded into oblivion in my well 
aged (71) wet ram.

Our website is pretty basic, a home page with an animated logo (I
 created using RAVE) and then the rest of the pages are basic text,
 photos, and hyperlinks.

Sandra

Cuthbert Smith Consulting Partnership Inc.
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 you.

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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Cuthbert Smith Consulting





ke6isf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

Neither. You'll have to be logged into your web server in order to locate
this file, preferably by way of ssh or direct access at the console.

Thank you

You now have me curious, what's this server's history, and how did you get
your hands on it? Vaguely important, how familiar are you with Unix-like
environments?

I dont know my servers history, Im not at all familiar with Unix, I work strictly in a windows enviromnent (office xp) on a PC connected to an office network. Im the office adminstrator and am working on designing a website. 

I personally prefer emacs, but it doesn't really have a graphical HTML
edit mode that I'm aware of. Perhaps somebody else here on the list can
make a better suggestion for a GUI HTML editor.

Ok, so then I looked briefly at this emacs, and it refered to something called webgui, which says if you are not a programmer can take days to install. (days?!!!). Well thanks for your consideration, Im going to have to go back to the beginning and try to get hold of our CAISNET Person who set this all up and see from there.

Thanks,

Sandra

-Dennis Carr




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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:43:25 -0500
Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 well aged (71) wet ram.
 

ah ha! surliness explained ;-)

cheers

A


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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Katipo

Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:


*ke6isf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
*

Ok, so then I looked briefly at this emacs, and it refered to 
something called webgui, which says if you are not a programmer can 
take days to install.  (days?!!!).  Well thanks for your 
consideration, Im going to have to go back to the beginning and try to 
get hold of our CAISNET Person who set this all up and see from there.


Thanks,

Sandra


Try Bluefish.

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html


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Re: help with Debian

2006-02-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 10 February 2006 14:21, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:43:25 -0500

Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well aged (71) wet ram.

ah ha! surliness explained ;-)

cheers

A

Well, one does tend to get to the point where there is little or no 
tolerance for stupidity, particularly if its accompanied by evidence of 
an education.  I managed the 8th grade, and went off to fix tv's for a 
living before 1950 rolled around, so the fancy education papers have 
been replaced by a GED, a 1st Phone, a C.E.T. and a diploma from the 
University of Hard Knocks plus a lot of been there, done thats, some of 
which even make good reading at the right time  place.  Yes, it (UHK) 
really does exist, as an arm of Alderson-Broddus College in Phillipe 
WV, a Methodist(I think) Theolegy(sp), pre-med  nursing school.  I was 
one of the younger graduates a decade+ back up the log now.

OTOH, I've certainly posted more than one persons share of numbskull 
remarks, so I really, really should be more tolerant. :)

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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Todd Weaver
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:10:52AM -0700, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:
 So, when I type in the domain name, it opens up to this Debian/Apache page
 Welcome to your new home in cyberspace.
 
 I am not a computer programmer, but feel fairly confident in my computer
 skills, I have created my website using FrontPage.  I need to know how to
 now upload my website to our webpage.

The process is as follows:

1) Contact the administrator that setup your web server.
   Ask him/her to provide you with:
   a) username
   b) password
   c) protocol to upload files with and recommendation on software to use:
  i) ftp
 ii) scp (ex: winscp http://winscp.net/eng/download.php )
iii) ...
   d) server location ( of course cuthbertsmith.com would work).
   e) directory to upload your files to after you connect to your server.

2) Download the recommended software to communicate with your web server.

3) Use that software to connect to your webserver, entering in your
   username/password

4) browse to the directory to upload your files to.

5) upload your files,
   (overwriting the default index.html page that you see now)

Todd.


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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Cuthbert Smith Consulting





Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck which was why I went to Debian/Apache. I will keep trying, thanks for your information.

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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread ke6isf
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

 Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck
 which was why I went to Debian/Apache.  I will keep trying, thanks for
 your information.

Glad to help, but could you please not send your emails as XML?  When you
do that, it runs all your paragraphs together and makes the message
difficult tor ead.

-Dennis Carr


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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Kent West

Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck 
which was why I went to Debian/Apache.  I will keep trying, thanks for 
your information.


Basically your host is using Debian/Apache on the host server, and since 
you have yet to upload any content, Debian's default page is displayed.


The host provider should have provided you with an ftp address 
(probably), allowing you to ftp up your web content. There are any 
number of ftp programs that would get you in (Windows even has a [very 
poor] ftp client built in). Basically you just connect to that address, 
and copy up the files, and then you should be able to see your content 
from a web browser.


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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Mark Fletcher

Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck 
which was why I went to Debian/Apache.  I will keep trying, thanks for 
your information.


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Here's the bottom line. Your provider should have provided you with 
information, understandable to non-techie people, on how to upload your 
website content on their server. If they didn't, they damn well ought to 
have done.


As someone else mentioned the most common / simplest mechanism is for 
them to give you the address of an FTP (File Transfer Protocol) server 
somewhere on the net that you send your files to. The more sophisticated 
providers will wrap that up in some sort of website so you essentially 
go to the site, log in, click links to upload your HTML etc files, wait 
a short while and hey presto your website is deployed. Less 
sophisticated ones just give you an address, a login and a password but 
will probably give you more help if you ask / pay for it.


If your provider has done none of the above despite your asking 
specifically for help with this problem, you should consider switching 
providers as that quite frankly is crap.


The fact that your provider allows the default Debian / Apache page to 
display if you don't upload content, and doesn't instead replace that 
with their own page saying how great they are and what a great deal 
their subscribers get by using them, tends to place them in the 
non-sophisticated category in my mind -- but I could be wrong. In any 
event they ought to be willing to help non-technical customers get their 
site up and running.


Apologies if I seem to have got unnecessarily fired up about this one, 
but seeing non-technical people lost in the techie wilderness and 
getting no help raises my hackles like nothing else, and some of the 
people in this forum, while all trying to be helpful I'm sure, have been 
guilty of making the same assumptions as your provider seems to have 
made -- viz that you are technically skilled at maintaining a web site.


Anyway focus your energies on your provider, don't take no (or silence) 
for an answer, and ultimately consider switching providers if you don't 
get the help you deserve. (Please don't ask me to recommend a provider 
-- I'm afraid I don't know)


Good luck

Mark


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