Re: Re: How to find right video card driver

2006-05-29 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 07:17:34PM +0200, jbmorla wrote:
> 
> I had trouble configuring my Xcongif file, because I purchased an off the
> shelves Acer PC.
> 
> Obviously the video card was OEM and no search could detect no driver on the
> WWW.

You should have been able to find _some_ info on the chipset reported by
'lspci' -- do you still have computer?  What does it say the 'Display
controller' is?
 
> So I just edited the config file with VI and enter « vesa » as generic
> graphic card,

Good choice when you don't know the hardware on which the install is
occuring (or it's not supported)

> And I never had any trouble with KDE or GNOME.

Shouldn't--just wouldn't have 'optimal' performance

> If you have trouble detecting your hard drive, look for the Bonzaï Debian
> distribution.

The 'etch' installer should detect most harddrives these days,
especially 'standard' ones--most IDE and SCSI (I have no experience
installing to SATA, might have trouble mixing SATA and SCSI).  There are
unofficial 'sarge' installers w/ more recent kernels that should
recognize most harddrives, too.

> For NIC, pick an old 3COM  905 B TX ( for $10 )

I've also had good luck with the realtek 8139 series 10/100 cards.

> For mouse, there still are non usb PS2 plug in the shops, same for the
> keyboard.

I have USB both, and the biggest difference is that is case the USB
system goes down, you have no recource to fix it.  I'd go with a PS2
keyboard, either on the mouse.

> Finally the best mirror I could find for ftp debian is the dot.de one,  to
> be entered manually in sources.list

That depends very largely on your locations.  A german mirror would do
me, for example, much less good than a USA mirror.

> Make sure you backup at least these two files, xf86config and sources.list,
> personnally I wrote
> 
> Them by hand, because sometimes you launch startx, 

I'd personally back up the entire /etc directory, a lot of config gets
changed in the initial setup, if I was going to do a selective backup.

>then you open a character
> console,
> 
> Then you enter some apt-get command, which smartly turns off then on EVERY
> daemon,

Not on my box..it turns off daemons right before updating them, then
turns them back on--and only the daemons it is immediately affecting.
My ssh daemon doesn't get restarted when I upgrade sendmail, for
example.  Did you somewhere configure it to kill everything but the dpkg
and bash processes?
 
> And when it comes to killing KDE or Gnome, you find yourself blastered to
> outer space,
> 
> Because obviously you were inside the ship.

I'm absolutely certain I've upgraded X and my WM while logged into X,
with no ill effects.  The only thing that dies on me when I upgrade is
firefox--hardly a catastrophe.  Maybe you could provide us with some
output next time your WM is upgraded to figure out why it's blowing away
your session?

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Re: Re: How to find right video card driver

2006-05-29 Thread jbmorla








Hi,

 

I had trouble configuring my Xcongif file, because I purchased
an off the shelves Acer PC.

Obviously the video card was OEM and no search could detect
no driver on the WWW.

So I just edited the config file with VI and enter « vesa »
as generic graphic card,

And I never had any trouble with KDE or GNOME.

If you have trouble detecting your hard drive, look for the
Bonzaï Debian distribution.

For NIC, pick an old 3COM  905 B TX ( for $10 )

For mouse, there still are non usb PS2 plug in the shops, same
for the keyboard.

Finally the best mirror I could find for ftp debian is the dot.de
one,  to be entered manually in sources.list

Make sure you backup at least these two files, xf86config and
sources.list, personnally I wrote

Them by hand, because sometimes you launch startx, then you
open a character console,

Then you enter some apt-get command, which smartly turns off
then on EVERY daemon,

And when it comes to killing KDE or Gnome, you find yourself
blastered to outer space,

Because obviously you were inside the ship.

Hope this help.

 

Reenactor.








Re: How to find right video card driver

2006-05-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:58:02 -0600, Joseph Smidt wrote:
>> I am trying to figure out how to configure my xorg.conf file.  Is there
>> anywhere that shows the whole list of drivers that xorg recognises?  Also
>> how do you use lspci info to decide which driver is best?  Thanks.
> 
> This is a very useful site to get a quick overview of the drivers for
> your hardware:
> 
> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
> 
> You just copy/paste the output of "lspci -n" into the form, press the
> "check" button and you get a list for all your hardware that is known to
> be supported by Debian.

That's a pretty darned spiffy web page...


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Re: How to find right video card driver

2006-05-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:58:02 -0600, Joseph Smidt wrote:
> I am trying to figure out how to configure my xorg.conf file.  Is there
> anywhere that shows the whole list of drivers that xorg recognises?  Also
> how do you use lspci info to decide which driver is best?  Thanks.

This is a very useful site to get a quick overview of the drivers for
your hardware:

http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/

You just copy/paste the output of "lspci -n" into the form, press the
"check" button and you get a list for all your hardware that is known to
be supported by Debian.

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Re: How to find right video card driver

2006-05-28 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 28 May 2006 14:58, Joseph Smidt wrote:
> I am trying to figure out how to configure my xorg.conf file.  Is there
> anywhere that shows the whole list of drivers that xorg recognises?  Also
> how do you use lspci info to decide which driver is best?  Thanks.

What is your video card? If you provide that information, someone on this list 
can advice as to which driver you should use. Most video cards work with vesa 
driver but the performance could be sub-optimal.

Install the package xserver-xorg-video-all and configure X using

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

most likely dpkg-reconfigure will pick the right driver for you. If it does 
not pick the right driver then that would be a bug in dpkg-reconfigure.

raju

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Re: How to find right video card driver

2006-05-28 Thread s. keeling
Joseph Smidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I am trying to figure out how to configure my xorg.conf file.  Is there
>  anywhere that shows the whole list of drivers that xorg recognises?  Also
>  how do you use lspci info to decide which driver is best?  Thanks.

"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will offer you a list of drivers to
choose from.  Google "site:lists.debian.org $CARD" (where $CARD is
your graphics card/chip) should dig out posts that mention what you
need to know.

lspci should tell you what's in the box:

  :00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 \
  CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)

lspci -v will tell you more, and -vv tells even more.  The above is
for an onboard Intel graphics controller which is used by the i810
XFree86 driver.


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