Re: How to find software?

2006-03-30 Thread Katipo

Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Hello Patrick,

Lachlan Patrick wrote:


Lachlan Patrick wrote:


Hi,

I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
these packages might be on?

Loki




Thanks to all who replied.

One other question: is there an up-to-date
Printing How-To somewhere? I need to get my
HP non-postscript inkjet working.



Short answer:
Install CUPS and its friends:
it should be Ok.

hth,
Jerome

PS:
see www.miktex.org to compose [La]TeX document
on Window$ computer.



You'll need xprint as well to print from your browser.
Also, this site...

http://www.linuxprinting.org/

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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread Katipo

Steve Lamb wrote:


Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
 


Lachlan Patrick wrote:
   


I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
these packages might be on?
 



 


Try apt-cache search latex, apt-cache search alsaplayer, or Synaptic -
the latter is the best solution, how to find any package with
description and dependecies
   



   Am I the only one who's reading this exchange and wondering what people
are thinking?  


No.
As the OP has contacted the list, it's fairly safe to assume that he has 
net access?

What's wrong with a net install with aptitude or the ilk.
Save the CDs for your next base install.
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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Lachlan Patrick wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
these packages might be on?



tetex-base: CD3
tetex-bin: CD3
tetex-extra: CD3
alsa-utils: CD3

H


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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread Juraj Fedel
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 07:04:12PM +0800, Katipo wrote:
 No.
 As the OP has contacted the list, it's fairly safe to assume that he has 
 net access?
 What's wrong with a net install with aptitude or the ilk.
 Save the CDs for your next base install.
 Regards,

Is it aslo possible to assume that he has 56k or 33k (as I have) dialup
connection and set of CD sitting on table?
I selected tetex-bin (not latex) in aptitude and here is what it want:

aptitude 0.2.15.8Will use 138MB of disk space   DL Size: 59.5MB

So it will download cca. 60MB data. If I am lucky I can download at
speed 3KB/s so it will take more than 5.5 hour to download (if you pray
hard and link does not break).

What is wrong with using CD that you aready have?
Save payment to phone company and ISP and buy a bread (or go to movie if
your stomach is full).

Juraj Fedel


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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread Katipo

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On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 11:03:26AM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote:
 


Katipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   


Steve Lamb wrote:
 


  Am I the only one who's reading this exchange and wondering what people
are thinking?

   


No.
As the OP has contacted the list, it's fairly safe to assume that he
has net access?
 


What tells you that the OP contacted the list from the same machine he
wants to install LaTeX on?

   


What's wrong with a net install with aptitude or the ilk.
 


Not everyone is up to wait and/or pay to see large packages like tetex
trickling through a phone line.  Especially if he has the CDs already.
   



If he has the CDs already, aptitude would prompt him to install the proper
CD when he tries to install tetex.  If not, it won't know about tetex.
So I presume he will take out replies and *then* go to get the proper CD from 
whatever source he had to buy CDs from.  Could CDs be expensive where he lives?  
Or hard to obtain?  Or does he have it fixed in his mind that he has to download 
entire CDs instead of just packages?  I have no idea.  I can't imagine it would 
cost him less to download a CD when he only needs one package.  I can imagine 
he'd like to buy one CD, though.


I'm really curious about this.

 


It depends on the individual environment, I suppose.

Here, a local call is worth twenty cents.
A loaf of bread, a lot more.
And computors don't need to sleep here, so I did a net install over my 
56K modem, with no pain whatsoever, while I was in bed.

Including LaTeX and Alsa, and a whole lot more.
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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread Lachlan Patrick
Lachlan Patrick wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
 Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
 these packages might be on?
 
 Loki
 

Thanks to all who replied.

One other question: is there an up-to-date
Printing How-To somewhere? I need to get my
HP non-postscript inkjet working.


FYI: I sent an email a week or two ago to this
list which was somewhat wordy but did explain
that I need CDs specifically. But I got no
replies, probably because it was too wordy, so
I decided next time to send a much shorter,
more direct set of questions. Sorry for the
lack of context that time around!

For those curious about why I need CDs...
here's the wordy explanation.

My Debian machine is at home. It's not on the net,
so I needed to install from CD. I'm typing this
email from my work PC, which I can't mess with,
so I don't have Debian installed on it, so I can't
directly use aptitude to download packages.

I'm not a Debian guru; I just prefer the environ-
ment to Windows. In my spare time, I've written a
novel on it, using vi, LaTeX, ps2pdf (and python).
But much of my hardware didn't work, e.g. I wanted
to use the CD-drive to do scheduled backups, and
to be able to print, but I was using an ancient
version of Debian which didn't have all the
drivers or kernel modules. So I was stuck with
a dual-boot Windows solution, which was not
ideal. I'd rather not need to boot into Windows
ever! I decided to freshly install a more recent
version of Debian.

So, I downloaded ISO images, and just created
the first 2 Debian CDs. This proved to be more
than adequate to install a functional base
desktop system in under 2GB of disk, but a few
things were still missing. I didn't want to
create all of the other 12 CDs just to get a few
packages, so I thought I'd ask what CDs they
are on. Although I can use the web at work to
discover package dependencies, I didn't know
how to discover which CDs those packages are on.

In my case, the answer seems to be disk 3, and
the link http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search
lets you search for specific files. So I now have
a two stage process I can use to find all the
dependencies, then find the CDs they are on.
(Since my PC's apt database only knows about the
first two CDs which it has been exposed to, it
had no way of telling me to insert CD 3 when I
want LaTeX. Indeed, there was no way inside
aptitude to select LaTeX... it's not listed yet.)
I didn't know this online search facility existed,
so I think that will solve my problems.

Thank you to one and all, and I hope this has
satisfied any curiosity.

Loki


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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 11:52:28AM +1000, Lachlan Patrick wrote:
 Lachlan Patrick wrote:
 
 For those curious about why I need CDs...
 here's the wordy explanation.

Quite curious.  Especially why you want just *certain* CDs.

 
 My Debian machine is at home. It's not on the net,
 so I needed to install from CD. I'm typing this
 email from my work PC, which I can't mess with,
 so I don't have Debian installed on it, so I can't
 directly use aptitude to download packages.

I figured you might not have direct net access.

 
 I'm not a Debian guru; I just prefer the environ-
 ment to Windows. In my spare time, I've written a
 novel on it, using vi, LaTeX, ps2pdf (and python).
 But much of my hardware didn't work, e.g. I wanted
 to use the CD-drive to do scheduled backups, and
 to be able to print, but I was using an ancient
 version of Debian which didn't have all the
 drivers or kernel modules. So I was stuck with
 a dual-boot Windows solution, which was not
 ideal. I'd rather not need to boot into Windows
 ever! I decided to freshly install a more recent
 version of Debian.
 
 So, I downloaded ISO images, and just created
 the first 2 Debian CDs. This proved to be more
 than adequate to install a functional base
 desktop system in under 2GB of disk, but a few
 things were still missing. I didn't want to
 create all of the other 12 CDs just to get a few
 packages, so I thought I'd ask what CDs they
 are on. Although I can use the web at work to
 discover package dependencies, I didn't know
 how to discover which CDs those packages are on.

So presumably they let you download CDs at work.
But not too many.  That makes sense.
Thank you for the explanation.

-- hendrik

 
 In my case, the answer seems to be disk 3, and
 the link http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search
 lets you search for specific files. So I now have
 a two stage process I can use to find all the
 dependencies, then find the CDs they are on.
 (Since my PC's apt database only knows about the
 first two CDs which it has been exposed to, it
 had no way of telling me to insert CD 3 when I
 want LaTeX. Indeed, there was no way inside
 aptitude to select LaTeX... it's not listed yet.)
 I didn't know this online search facility existed,
 so I think that will solve my problems.

Incidentally, I believe the packages are allocated
to CDs on the basis of popularity.  So in the absence
of other information, the next CD in sequence might
be the most useful next CD to burn.

 
 Thank you to one and all, and I hope this has
 satisfied any curiosity.

Sure did!

-- hendrik


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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-29 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello Patrick,

Lachlan Patrick wrote:

Lachlan Patrick wrote:


Hi,

I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
these packages might be on?

Loki




Thanks to all who replied.

One other question: is there an up-to-date
Printing How-To somewhere? I need to get my
HP non-postscript inkjet working.


Short answer:
Install CUPS and its friends:
it should be Ok.

hth,
Jerome

PS:
see www.miktex.org to compose [La]TeX document
on Window$ computer.





FYI: I sent an email a week or two ago to this
list which was somewhat wordy but did explain
that I need CDs specifically. But I got no
replies, probably because it was too wordy, so
I decided next time to send a much shorter,
more direct set of questions. Sorry for the
lack of context that time around!

For those curious about why I need CDs...
here's the wordy explanation.

My Debian machine is at home. It's not on the net,
so I needed to install from CD. I'm typing this
email from my work PC, which I can't mess with,
so I don't have Debian installed on it, so I can't
directly use aptitude to download packages.

I'm not a Debian guru; I just prefer the environ-
ment to Windows. In my spare time, I've written a
novel on it, using vi, LaTeX, ps2pdf (and python).
But much of my hardware didn't work, e.g. I wanted
to use the CD-drive to do scheduled backups, and
to be able to print, but I was using an ancient
version of Debian which didn't have all the
drivers or kernel modules. So I was stuck with
a dual-boot Windows solution, which was not
ideal. I'd rather not need to boot into Windows
ever! I decided to freshly install a more recent
version of Debian.

So, I downloaded ISO images, and just created
the first 2 Debian CDs. This proved to be more
than adequate to install a functional base
desktop system in under 2GB of disk, but a few
things were still missing. I didn't want to
create all of the other 12 CDs just to get a few
packages, so I thought I'd ask what CDs they
are on. Although I can use the web at work to
discover package dependencies, I didn't know
how to discover which CDs those packages are on.

In my case, the answer seems to be disk 3, and
the link http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search
lets you search for specific files. So I now have
a two stage process I can use to find all the
dependencies, then find the CDs they are on.
(Since my PC's apt database only knows about the
first two CDs which it has been exposed to, it
had no way of telling me to insert CD 3 when I
want LaTeX. Indeed, there was no way inside
aptitude to select LaTeX... it's not listed yet.)
I didn't know this online search facility existed,
so I think that will solve my problems.

Thank you to one and all, and I hope this has
satisfied any curiosity.

Loki




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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-28 Thread Edward Shornock
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 03:20:44PM +1000, Lachlan Patrick wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
 Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
 these packages might be on?

Try http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search


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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello Patrick,

this does not work that way:
a good start is

man dselect


If your are in hurry then as root launch

dselect

and try to follow the instructions:
to get a working LaTeX you must install tetex,
for alsaplayer, I do not know.

hth,
Jerome

Lachlan Patrick wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
these packages might be on?

Loki




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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-28 Thread Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka
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Lachlan Patrick wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
 Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
 these packages might be on?
 
 Loki
 
 
Try apt-cache search latex, apt-cache search alsaplayer, or Synaptic -
the latter is the best solution, how to find any package with
description and dependecies

HAND

Vlada

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Re: How to find software?

2006-03-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka wrote:
 Lachlan Patrick wrote:
 I'm looking for LaTeX or alsaplayer.
 Anyone have any idea which Debian 3.1r1 CD
 these packages might be on?

 Try apt-cache search latex, apt-cache search alsaplayer, or Synaptic -
 the latter is the best solution, how to find any package with
 description and dependecies

Am I the only one who's reading this exchange and wondering what people
are thinking?  How, exactly, does dselect (in the previous reply) and
apt-cache help him determine which CD the software is on?  I mean what
if he's on a slow link, has the CDs a friend gave him and wants to
install from that medium.  Am I missing some magical function of dselect
and apt-cache which describes which CD a package is on?  Mine certainly
don't cough up that information.  It's not in the package description. 
Is this another case of rewriting the question and then answering the
rewrite?

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