Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-23 Thread Max Hyre
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Michael Marsh wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Max Hyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>That's odd.  I get Icedove notifications all the time,

> For movemail accounts?  If so, that's new, and I'll have to dig
> through my preferences.  For several years the TB developers have been
> saying that they have no intentions of making notifications work for
> movemail, since they don't think anyone uses it except for a few
> dinosaurs who should switch to IMAP or POP mail, anyway.

   My bad.  From the context, I thought the problem applied to all
access types.
I'm using IMAP.

   Sorry 'bout that.


Best wishes,

Max Hyre



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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-23 Thread Michael Marsh
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Max Hyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Marsh wrote:
>  > Unfortunately,
>  > state-of-the-art biff technology seems to elude the TB team, and
>  > they've determined that automatically finding new messages is a
>  > problem beyond their abilities.
>
>That's odd.  I get Icedove notifications all the time, and I
>  didn't do anything special that I know of.  I'm running raw unstable
>  (Linux elmore 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP) with Thunderbird version 2.0.0.9
>  (20080110), and Gnome Version: 2.22.0.

For movemail accounts?  If so, that's new, and I'll have to dig
through my preferences.  For several years the TB developers have been
saying that they have no intentions of making notifications work for
movemail, since they don't think anyone uses it except for a few
dinosaurs who should switch to IMAP or POP mail, anyway.

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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-23 Thread Max Hyre
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Michael Marsh wrote:
> Unfortunately,
> state-of-the-art biff technology seems to elude the TB team, and
> they've determined that automatically finding new messages is a
> problem beyond their abilities.

   That's odd.  I get Icedove notifications all the time, and I
didn't do anything special that I know of.  I'm running raw unstable
(Linux elmore 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP) with Thunderbird version 2.0.0.9
(20080110), and Gnome Version: 2.22.0.


Best wishes,

Max Hyre


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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-22 Thread Michal R. Hoffmann

On 22/03/08 17:11, Jabka Atu wrote:


Hello,..

How should i set Thunderbird to work with local mail :
for instance Kmail  know's how to access /var/mail/username and get
messages from there.

I tried to search an option inside thunderbird (icedove) but didn't
found one.


I may be wrong, but maybe you just need pop3 server / daemon? Then you 
don't read the mail file directly but configure Icedove to get mail from 
your local pop3 server.


Ie: popa3d, teapop, etc

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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 13:11:09 -0400, Jabka Atu wrote:
> Hello,..
> 
> How should i set Thunderbird to work with local mail :
> for instance Kmail  know's how to access /var/mail/username and get
> messages from there.
> 
> I tried to search an option inside thunderbird (icedove) but didn't
> found one.

You have to set up a movemail account if you want to access folders in
/var/mail directly:

http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Creating_an_Account#Creating_a_Movemail_Account
http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/movemail.html

It seems that the configuration dialog for this type of account is
broken in some versions of icedove:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432119
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=447002

It may be possible to work around the bug by creating an additional pop3
account and converting it to a movemail account afterwards:

http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/movemail/

It should not be necessary to edit prefs.js directly, the config editor
gives you access to the mail.server.serverX.type settings as well.
(Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Config Editor...)

You might furthermore want to use an external movemail command,
typically the one from the "mailutils" package, to have the option to
preserve the original messages in /var/mail. The relevant config
settings are mail.use_builtin_movemail and mail.movemail_program.

(Disclaimer: I never actually tried the above workaround. Movemail
 accounts worked fine for me with Mozilla, but I never used thunderbird
 or icedove long enough to know if that feature has been preserved
 properly. It might be safer to run a local imap server for icedove to
 access.)

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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-22 Thread Michael Marsh
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  How should i set Thunderbird to work with local mail :
>  for instance Kmail  know's how to access /var/mail/username and get
>  messages from there.
>
>  I tried to search an option inside thunderbird (icedove) but didn't
>  found one.

Thunderbird refers to this as a "movemail" account, which should be
one of the standard "new account" options.  Unfortunately,
state-of-the-art biff technology seems to elude the TB team, and
they've determined that automatically finding new messages is a
problem beyond their abilities.  I have a movemail account called
"cron", and to get new messages I have to select the inbox and try to
get new mail.  My xterm's biff lets me know there's something to get.

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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-22 Thread Micha
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:17:11 -0500
"Tom Goulet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 3/22/08, Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Hello,..
> >
> > How should i set Thunderbird to work with local mail :
> > for instance Kmail know's how to access /var/mail/username and get
> > messages from there.
> 

You can also setup a local imap server and then access your mail through imap

> Hmm, it looks a little tricky, but
> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq says that you can
> import Mbox files into Thunderbird.
> 
> It says that you do it by copying an Mbox file to the "Mail/Local
> Folders" directory within your "profile directory".
> 
> By the way, /var/mail/username files are Mbox files.
> 
> So you might end up running something like this:
> 
> The shell command would end up looking something like this:
> cp /var/mail/username ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/blergh.default/Mail/Local\
> Folders
> 
> Then restart Thunderbird.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 


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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-22 Thread Jabka Atu
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Tom Goulet wrote:
> On 3/22/08, Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
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>> Hello,..
>>
>> How should i set Thunderbird to work with local mail :
>> for instance Kmail know's how to access /var/mail/username and get
>> messages from there.
>>
>
> Hmm, it looks a little tricky, but
> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq says that you can
> import Mbox files into Thunderbird.
>
> It says that you do it by copying an Mbox file to the "Mail/Local
> Folders" directory within your "profile directory".
>
> By the way, /var/mail/username files are Mbox files.
>
>  
importing an mbox file only copies the contense of file will prevent
you from getting new mail.
> So you might end up running something like this:
>
> The shell command would end up looking something like this:
> cp /var/mail/username ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/blergh.default/Mail/Local\
Folders
>
>  
I tried the above the problem is that by coping you stuck with what
was allrady in the file and if you get new mails you don't know about it .
*
*so i did a sym link :
ln -s /var/mail/jabka
/home/jabka/.mozilla-thunderbird/2i25fsli.default/Mail/Local\
Folders/jabkamail

or in more common way :
ln -s /var/mail/YOURUSERNAME
/home/YOUR_USERNAME/.mozilla-thunderbird/SOME_DIR.default/Mail/Local\
Folders/SOME_FILE_NAME *
*
The problem is that afaik to see the diffrence in incoming mails you
have to restart thunderbird (icedove).

> Then restart Thunderbird.
>
> Tom
>
>  

Regards ,..
  Jabka Atu || bsh83.blogspot.com
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Re: How to set thunderbird to work with localmail

2008-03-22 Thread Tom Goulet
On 3/22/08, Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hello,..
>
> How should i set Thunderbird to work with local mail :
> for instance Kmail know's how to access /var/mail/username and get
> messages from there.

Hmm, it looks a little tricky, but
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq says that you can
import Mbox files into Thunderbird.

It says that you do it by copying an Mbox file to the "Mail/Local
Folders" directory within your "profile directory".

By the way, /var/mail/username files are Mbox files.

So you might end up running something like this:

The shell command would end up looking something like this:
cp /var/mail/username ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/blergh.default/Mail/Local\ Folders

Then restart Thunderbird.

Tom


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