Re: How to use spamfilters at home
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 11:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > do spamfilters for our MUAs interact with libraries used for servers? > At home we easily can mark junk manually. Joe and Sam for example aren't > really annoying for me. OTOH I sometimes use the spamfilter to sort out > mailing list threads, that aren't important for me and indeed, it works > too, neither mails from a list, nor from the author are filtered, only > the thread is filtered. This is easier to do, than to add a filter for > mail that isn't spam. > > Unfortunately Joe and Sam still aren't filtered by the Debian mailing > list filter, but fortunately threads that aren't important for me, also > aren't filtered by the list server. > > Is there such an interaction and if so, are there rules how we should > handle junk by our MUAs? > > Regards, > Ralf PS: "how to handle spam" web searches only lead to answers that we shouldn't reply to spam, shouldn't buy from spammers etc.. FAQs regarding to databases until now didn't answer my question too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339841344.3429.82.camel@precise
Re: How to use spamfilters at home
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Unfortunately Joe and Sam still aren't filtered by the Debian mailing > list filter, but fortunately threads that aren't important for me, also > aren't filtered by the list server. I assume that by "Joe" you mean Joe Assistly. The emails that I've received from "him" weren't addressed to the list so l.d.o's spam filters were in no way involved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szbejd5u4bssxz3_egnzpxq1ucbk7nv1ab10xozw+_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to use spamfilters at home
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 13:09 +0200, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > > Unfortunately Joe and Sam still aren't filtered by the Debian mailing > > list filter, but fortunately threads that aren't important for me, also > > aren't filtered by the list server. > > I assume that by "Joe" you mean Joe Assistly. > > The emails that I've received from "him" weren't addressed to the list > so l.d.o's spam filters were in no way involved. You're right. Anyway, my question is about a shared database for spam, between spamfilters for home computer MUA and servers such as mailing list servers. I suspect that (for good reasons) there usually isn't such a shared database. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339845584.3429.96.camel@precise
Re: How to use spamfilters at home
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 01:19:44PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You're right. Anyway, my question is about a shared database for spam, > between spamfilters for home computer MUA and servers such as mailing > list servers. I suspect that (for good reasons) there usually isn't such > a shared database. And if there was, mails like sams would be designed to bugger them up? mmm, so there probably is a shared database, or "set of rules" to grade each mail. As to a possible home/SOHO solution, have a look at bogofilter: tal% apt-cache show bogofilter Package: bogofilter Source: bogofilter (1.2.2+dfsg1-1) Version: 1.2.2+dfsg1-1+b1 Installed-Size: 21 Maintainer: Serafeim Zanikolas Architecture: i386 Depends: bogofilter-common, bogofilter-bdb | bogofilter-db Description-en: fast Bayesian spam filter (dummy package) This package implements a fast Bayesian spam filter along the lines suggested by Paul Graham in his article "A Plan For Spam". . This version substantially improves on Paul's proposal by doing smarter lexical analysis. In particular, hostnames and IP addresses are retained as recognition features rather than broken up. Various kinds of MTA cruft such as dates and message-IDs are discarded so as not to bloat the word lists. Description-md5: 968ec277af1658df73a6620e1ea6c7f7 Tag: implemented-in::c, interface::commandline, mail::filters, role::dummy, role::metapackage, role::program, use::filtering, use::scanning, works-with::mail Section: mail Priority: optional Filename: pool/main/b/bogofilter/bogofilter_1.2.2+dfsg1-1+b1_i386.deb Size: 982 MD5sum: d1b25bf1a2b93b933ad6f3c5dfcfdcba SHA1: 8ad5c3a9079461506bbdc65ea38a5f5c66b7fc79 SHA256: c8c09bf7cf61cb88b0c6002cd6c6ebef536e18c96c36da411b0707527b129a69 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120616130938.GA4310@tal
Re: How to use spamfilters at home
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 01:09 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > tal% apt-cache show bogofilter On Debian I don't use a mailer at the moment and on Ubuntu I'm already using bogofilter. Bogofilter is working perfect for me. I'm asking for a shared database, because some are still annoyed by Joe and Sam. With a shared database, others might benefit from others trained filters. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1339860707.2281.3.camel@precise
Re: How to use spamfilters at home
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:55:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > do spamfilters for our MUAs interact with libraries used for servers? (...) No. What you can do is using the server-side spamfilter tags to instruct your MUA to act in the way you prefer (if your MUA's anti-spam filter can read from the headers). > Is there such an interaction and if so, are there rules how we should > handle junk by our MUAs? Better if you expand what's your goal. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jri9en$tm4$8...@dough.gmane.org
