Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about downloading base2_1.tgz (or base2_2.tgz if you want to go straight to frozen) and untarring that into the new partition before chrooting into it? In case anyone was following this thread, here are a couple of gotchas that I ran into: 1. I couldn't boot into the new system, getting You are trying to boot into unconfigured base system or somesuch message, which offered me to boot usint the Rescue disk. chmod -x /sbin/unconfigured.sh fixed that problem. 2. I had to remove pcmcia and nfs related packages, which are installed by default. Apart from those, all went very smooth. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
RE: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Steven Satelle wrote: My understanding is (more from windoze than linux) that installing on one hrd drv and using it in a diff system is a bad idea, lots of different It is often a good idea. Sometimes, it is the most efficient way to get a system installed- say if the remote system doesn't have a fast connection and you don't have a CD. Unlike Windows, Linux works pretty well misconfigured. :} That said, I managed to do the same trick with Win95, though it did not inspire confidence :} I don't think the installer will run without a reboot, but you can probably format the drive and install all the packages onto it yourself. You could even just make a copy of your own system onto his drive, but then he would have all your user accounts and things, which you would have to remove (unless you don't care). The biggest problem you will have will be with LILO. Best way to set that up is with complex LILO magic, or to boot off a floppy on the new system and then install LILO from there.
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:37:09PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: While this is fine for building up a system once the base image has been created, I believe you'll find it easiest to install the base by booting the system. How about downloading base2_1.tgz (or base2_2.tgz if you want to go straight to frozen) and untarring that into the new partition before chrooting into it? Excellent! Worked like a charm, thanks a lot! The install was quick and enjoyable. ;^) -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 11:02:13PM +0100, Steven Satelle wrote: My understanding is (more from windoze than linux) that installing on one hrd drv and using it in a diff system is a bad idea, lots of different hardware / configurations, unless you both have identical systems Amplifying other responses. Not really. The *really* system dependent thing in Linux is LILO, and I'm currently booting a system with two disks, two installations, (one cloned), for which my preferred boot record isn't accessible. I throw a couple of extra boot-prompt options in and everything's fine, booting from the wrong MBR. 99.99+ percent of a Linux system is identical, so long as you're running the same fundamental architecture. Differences are largely limited to kernel modules (significant, but easily corrected, and generic stock kernels are readily available). Other stuff -- filesystem support (/etc/fstab), networking, and X. Probably not more than a dozen files, total, for general circumstances. And, as said, a slightly (or even grossly) misconfigured Linux system generally has *some* function, from which you can bootstrap (or fix) it to the desired level of disrepair. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http:/www.netcom.com/~kmself What part of Gestalt don't you understand? http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpfUBvOCx5a8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:37:09PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: you may try a chroot-ed environment. man chroot While this is fine for building up a system once the base image has been created, I believe you'll find it easiest to install the base by booting the system. How about downloading base2_1.tgz (or base2_2.tgz if you want to go straight to frozen) and untarring that into the new partition before chrooting into it? The whole process might look something like this: 1. Create the new partitions. 2. mke2fs them. 3. Mount them in the proper structure (e.g. the new / on /mnt/wherever, then the new /usr on /mnt/wherever/usr, and so on). 4. cd /mnt/wherever 5. tar -xvvzf /path/to/base2_1.tgz 6. cp /etc/resolv.conf etc/ cp /etc/hosts etc/ echo newhostname etc/hostname 7. chroot . 8. Mount proc, devpts, and whatever else if necessary. 9. Edit sources.list and apt-get to your heart's content (: -- finger for GPG public key. pgph3z1cXNMVE.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
My understanding is (more from windoze than linux) that installing on one hrd drv and using it in a diff system is a bad idea, lots of different hardware / configurations, unless you both have identical systems -Original Message- From: Arcady Genkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arcady Genkin Sent: 26 April 2000 20:44 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux) Hi all: Is it possible to run the Debian installation program on a workstation which runs Linux? My friend has given me his HD to install Debian onto it, and I hooked it up and partitioned already. I would like to do an FTP install for him without losing my productivity (read: without booting off a floppy). Is it possible to simply mount whatever floppy image I need off /dev/fd0 and run the installation program? If so, what is the program's name? If anyone has had experience with doing this, I would appreciate any suggestions. -- Arcady Genkin http://www.thpoon.com Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
Is it possible to run the Debian installation program on a workstation which runs Linux? Is it possible to simply mount whatever floppy image I need off /dev/fd0 and run the installation program? If so, what is the program's name? you may try a chroot-ed environment. man chroot -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: Installing without rebooting (running the installation proggie from within Linux)
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 10:02:40PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: Is it possible to run the Debian installation program on a workstation which runs Linux? Is it possible to simply mount whatever floppy image I need off /dev/fd0 and run the installation program? If so, what is the program's name? you may try a chroot-ed environment. man chroot While this is fine for building up a system once the base image has been created, I believe you'll find it easiest to install the base by booting the system. Of course, you could install base to another box and walk it over (tar, cpio, foo). -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http:/www.netcom.com/~kmself What part of Gestalt don't you understand? http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgp4PslIoHUZi.pgp Description: PGP signature
