Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-28 Thread John Galt

(massacaring Wimpy's saying)
I'd gladly party Tuesday for a Debian today? :)

On 27 Feb 1999, Kevin Dalley wrote:

snippage 
 
 Probably more people will be LinuxWorld on Tuesday than Monday.  If we 
 need to have a Monday party, it doesn't need to be near LinuxWorld.
 If the party is on Tuesday, it might as well be at LinuxWorld.
 
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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 05:43:18PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote:
 The release of 2.1 Slink will happen:
 in Australia:   at 11:00 AM ACT on Tuesday Mar 2

What's ACT exactly? :-)


(If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
or GMT+1030 in summer (now). The eastern states are GMT+1000/1100 as above.)


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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Johnie Ingram

Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The release of 2.1 Slink will happen: in Australia: at 11:00 AM
 ACT on Tuesday Mar 2

Hamish (If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
Hamish or GMT+1030 in summer (now). The eastern states are
Hamish GMT+1000/1100 as above.)

I'm not sure what it means -- the format was lifted from the hamm freeze
announcement from a year ago.  :-)   When I asked #linuxaus if ACT was
still +1000, someone told me to TZ=Australia/Canberra and date
--rfc-822 said +1100.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 05:07:13PM -0800, Darren Benham wrote:

  Anyway, 4 PM is a bit early for me on Monday (have to work), but if
  people would like to meet somewhere that evening, it could be fun.
  
  How about it?
 
 I'd recommend getting together with Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to
 coordinate with him.  He's the lead for the Linux World Expo and he's
 hosting the Project Leader... He's been working on plans for BOFs and
 afterhours stuff and such.

Oh, I think he's got enough to do as it is, I think the rest of us
could figure this one out on our own;-) Of course, I would hope that
he could show up!  Earthling, bring our Leader to us ?

So far, we have one vote for San Jose - I'd personally vote for
something in SF, just because it's convenient.  Anyone else
interested?

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 08:02:39PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote:
 Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The release of 2.1 Slink will happen: in Australia: at 11:00 AM
  ACT on Tuesday Mar 2
 
 Hamish (If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
 Hamish or GMT+1030 in summer (now). The eastern states are
 Hamish GMT+1000/1100 as above.)
 
 I'm not sure what it means -- the format was lifted from the hamm freeze
 announcement from a year ago.  :-)   When I asked #linuxaus if ACT was
 still +1000, someone told me to TZ=Australia/Canberra and date
 --rfc-822 said +1100.

Well, the city Australia/Canberra is in the ACT (Australian Capital
Territory)..

Whatever, anyway :-) The time is right for the east coast (which is where
the two biggest cities are).


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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
[ Cc'ing this to interested parties in the Bay Area - we're talking about
  BOF's/release parties on monday. ]

David Welton wrote:
 Oh, I think he's got enough to do as it is, I think the rest of us
 could figure this one out on our own;-)

Amen! 

I'm getting fairly stressed out since I've been effectively working 2 jobs
this month, my day job plus organizing for the expo. I was going to work on
BOF's but it didn't happen.

 So far, we have one vote for San Jose - I'd personally vote for
 something in SF, just because it's convenient.  Anyone else
 interested?

I think either is doable for me, Darren, and Wichert - SF is of course
preferable for all 3 of us. And looking at my list of addresses of people, I
think at least 2/3 are closer to SF. So, suggestions for a venue there? We
could fall back to the Coffeenet.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
George Bonser wrote:
 Since the show is in SJ, we should probably have something in the South
 Bay for the folks that will be visiting.  Driving to SF from SJ in the
 evening on a weeknight is not a picnic.

This is a very good point.

Hm. I could probably organize a north bay carpool and get most north bayers
down there, if necessary. But it'd have to start after 6:30pm or we'd
certinly be late (I can't leave until 5 myself).

The alternative is to just push it back until Tuesday, then we could do it
after the Debian booth closes, which lets us advertise it at the booth some,
and ensures that a lot of north bay people are already in San Jose.

 I could also suggest a place in San Mateo called BarleyHopps that is also
 a microbrew place. If you like the blues, you will like this place. Pretty
 nice. That kind of splits the difference. It is right at the San Mateo
 cal-train station too so you can catch the train up from SJ or down from
 SF ... no need to drive.

Personllay, I'd like a place that's a good place to have a conversation in.
That's about the extent of my preferences.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joseph Carter
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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 07:15:55PM -0600, David Welton wrote:
   Anyway, 4 PM is a bit early for me on Monday (have to work), but if
   people would like to meet somewhere that evening, it could be fun.
   
   How about it?
  
  I'd recommend getting together with Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to
  coordinate with him.  He's the lead for the Linux World Expo and he's
  hosting the Project Leader... He's been working on plans for BOFs and
  afterhours stuff and such.
 
 Oh, I think he's got enough to do as it is, I think the rest of us
 could figure this one out on our own;-) Of course, I would hope that
 he could show up!  Earthling, bring our Leader to us ?
 
 So far, we have one vote for San Jose - I'd personally vote for
 something in SF, just because it's convenient.  Anyone else
 interested?

I might even be able to make 4pm you know..  =

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
* Knghtbrd bops netgod for the subject line
* joeyh_bed notes thankfully that he's never heard the song

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Alexander N. Benner
Hi ho

Ship's Log, Lt. Johnie Ingram, Stardate 260299.1743:
 in Europe:  at 0:00 midnight UTC on Tuesday Mar 2
Argl .. that's a bit early ...
I meen for me to come home on Thu. ... let's see if I can make it thin Mon. on
Mon. ...

 #debian, irc.debian.org.  Everyone is invited for the Great Event,

I have not been able to connect to irc.debian.org for at least a month by now
...
It apears that our DNS has no idea about it

 irc.us.debian.org  irc.eu.debian.org
 irc.au.debian.org  irc.linux.org

At least .eu. works fine here

 
 bitchx -c#debian

as irc.debian.org does not work here this also doesn't .. :-(
oh ... btw.
I found it out for ircII and I think epic.
How to change the default server for bx and the other irc-clients?

Greetings
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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Kevin Dalley
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hm. I could probably organize a north bay carpool and get most north bayers
 down there, if necessary. But it'd have to start after 6:30pm or we'd
 certinly be late (I can't leave until 5 myself).
 
 The alternative is to just push it back until Tuesday, then we could do it
 after the Debian booth closes, which lets us advertise it at the booth some,
 and ensures that a lot of north bay people are already in San Jose.


There is mass transit in much of the Bay Area.  Personally, I would
prefer Oakland on Monday.  It's closer for Joey (and just
coincidentally for me).  There are a number of nice pubs near BART.
Unfortunately, south bay people don't have real mass transit.

Most people's day may end after the Debian booth closes on Tuesday,
but I have to move to the SETI Institute booth at 7:30.  Actually,
there are sponsors paying for food, drink, and music at Exhibit Hall
3.  Let's assume that they are celebrating the Debian release.  The
party lasts from 7:30-11:00.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread David Welton
Ok, so the consensus seems to be that everyone wants to meet near
where they live;-) It might be nice to carpool a bit further south, so
as to accomodate the people closer to san jose...  Urk, I don't know
if I want to drive with all those swarms of other people during rush
hour, though.  San Mateo, which someone mentioned, isn't that far,
though.  How is the evening traffic coming north?  I guess I could do
Oakland, if we meet near the BART thing.

Anyone who *can't* make it anyplace in particular?

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 12:37:13PM -0600, David Welton wrote:
 Ok, so the consensus seems to be that everyone wants to meet near
 where they live;-) It might be nice to carpool a bit further south, so
 as to accomodate the people closer to san jose...  Urk, I don't know
 if I want to drive with all those swarms of other people during rush
 hour, though.  San Mateo, which someone mentioned, isn't that far,
 though.  How is the evening traffic coming north?  I guess I could do
 Oakland, if we meet near the BART thing.
 
 Anyone who *can't* make it anyplace in particular?

I'm still working on this, I have to make a fone call yet and get back to
joeyh about when I am going to be getting to the BART station..  Once I
know that I'll have some measure (be it small) of whats and whens.  I
hope.  =

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Chris Waters
Disclaimer: I live in San Jose.  :-)

But still, if this is supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether,
wouldn't it make the most sense to have it *near* Linuxworld? 
Convenient for people visiting the area for Linuxworld and staying in
nearby {h,m}otels, convenient for people attending Linuxworld from
around the bay.  Inconvenient only for those who aren't going to
Linuxworld and aren't nearby.

If this *isn't* really supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether (I'm
a little confused, since I think this thread started with a mention of
the *IRC* party), then maybe Oakland or SF would be reasonable.  But in
that case, I'd like to propose that we have one or more post-Linuxworld
gettogethers near Linuxworld.  The south bay has plenty of nice spots. 
Do we want coffee, bheer, or bhoth?

Traffic is another issue, and one that would tend to suggest that we not
go too far from the convention center till later, i.e. *after* the
gettogether when we're heading toward home (or temporary equivalent). 
Bay area traffic is extremely bad, if not world-class bad quite yet
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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Kevin Dalley
David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok, so the consensus seems to be that everyone wants to meet near
 where they live;-) It might be nice to carpool a bit further south, so
 as to accomodate the people closer to san jose...  Urk, I don't know
 if I want to drive with all those swarms of other people during rush
 hour, though.  San Mateo, which someone mentioned, isn't that far,
 though.  How is the evening traffic coming north?  I guess I could do
 Oakland, if we meet near the BART thing.

The traffic going north is often bad.  Mountain View to Oakland
usually takes an hour to an hour and a half around 6 PM.

Unfortunately, if it is on Monday, I can only make it for a short
while, unless the meeting continues past 10 PM, then I can return.

To be difficult, should slink be released on schedule considering the
number of fixes which are still coming through.  I just reported a
critical bug against pcmcia-modules-2.0.34, which doesn't work.  Our
usual plan is to wait a week after packages are uploaded before
releasing the system.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread David Bristel
While I am also in San Jose, I'd say that we may want to have two parties, one
down here in San Jose for those staying down this way, and for those who live
or are staying further north to have a party up there.  Just a thought...


Dave


On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Chris Waters wrote:

 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:41:49 -0800
 From: Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
 Bay Area Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Intent to Party like its 1999
 
 Disclaimer: I live in San Jose.  :-)
 
 But still, if this is supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether,
 wouldn't it make the most sense to have it *near* Linuxworld? 
 Convenient for people visiting the area for Linuxworld and staying in
 nearby {h,m}otels, convenient for people attending Linuxworld from
 around the bay.  Inconvenient only for those who aren't going to
 Linuxworld and aren't nearby.
 
 If this *isn't* really supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether (I'm
 a little confused, since I think this thread started with a mention of
 the *IRC* party), then maybe Oakland or SF would be reasonable.  But in
 that case, I'd like to propose that we have one or more post-Linuxworld
 gettogethers near Linuxworld.  The south bay has plenty of nice spots. 
 Do we want coffee, bheer, or bhoth?
 
 Traffic is another issue, and one that would tend to suggest that we not
 go too far from the convention center till later, i.e. *after* the
 gettogether when we're heading toward home (or temporary equivalent). 
 Bay area traffic is extremely bad, if not world-class bad quite yet
 -- 
 Chris Waters   [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have a truly elegant proof of the
   or[EMAIL PROTECTED] | above, but it is too long to fit into
 http://www.dsp.net/xtifr | this .signature file.
 


Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Kevin Dalley
Chris Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Disclaimer: I live in San Jose.  :-)
 
 But still, if this is supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether,
 wouldn't it make the most sense to have it *near* Linuxworld? 
 Convenient for people visiting the area for Linuxworld and staying in
 nearby {h,m}otels, convenient for people attending Linuxworld from
 around the bay.  Inconvenient only for those who aren't going to
 Linuxworld and aren't nearby.

Probably more people will be LinuxWorld on Tuesday than Monday.  If we 
need to have a Monday party, it doesn't need to be near LinuxWorld.
If the party is on Tuesday, it might as well be at LinuxWorld.

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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread David Bristel
Well, if you wanted to get into downtown San Jose from Caltrain, you can take
Caltrain into Santa Clara.  From there, hop the 60 bus north to the end of the
line, which connects to Light Rail.  Unfortunately, light rail is currently
being extended, so there's a shuttle bus that will take you from there into
downtown San Jose.  It's painful, but that's one way to get into San Jose from
Cal Train.

Dave


On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, George Bonser wrote:

 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:47:36 -0800 (PST)
 From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
 Bay Area Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Intent to Party like its 1999
 
 On 27 Feb 1999, Kevin Dalley wrote:
 
  There is mass transit in much of the Bay Area.  Personally, I would
  prefer Oakland on Monday.  It's closer for Joey (and just
  coincidentally for me).  There are a number of nice pubs near BART.
  Unfortunately, south bay people don't have real mass transit.
  
 
 The only thing we have is Cal-Train. That probably means that if people do
 not want to drive, you are limited to the Penninsula or SF proper ...
 CoffeeNet is not far from the Cal-Train station and the new Embarcadero
 extention of Muni should get you near there from the Embarcadero BART. I
 think the last Cal-Train leaves at around 11:30pm that heads south so
 again, there are limitations.
 
 Amtrak runs from Great America to Emeryville but there are few trains.
 
 Driving to the East Bay from SJ is a nightmare because of the 880/237
 interchange or the bridges, they are jammed from everyone leaving Silicon
 Valley after work. People tend to forget how spread out the Bay Area
 really is.
 
 
 


Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Chris Waters
David Bristel writes:

 Well, if you wanted to get into downtown San Jose from Caltrain, you
 can take Caltrain into Santa Clara.  
[and take a bus a long way to light rail]

Huh?  Caltrain goes to San Jose.  It stops right by the Arena, which is
only a few blocks from downtown and light rail (and the convention
center, and etc.).  And the SJ train station is a major hub for bus
lines.

SJ to or from SF is pretty easy.

Kevin Dalley writes:
 People tend to forget how spread out the Bay Area really is.

Yes, and the only centrally located area is underwater.  :-)

One advantage of doing this in the south bay is that, for most people in
or out of the south bay, you're going opposite to the normal flow of
commuters.  Which means less traffic, less crowding on public transit,
etc.  Plus, if we meet reasonably near the convention center, it'll
allow people to scout out routes to the convention center, and may allow
people staying nearby for Linuxworld thingie to attend, if they've
arrived early.

OTOH, if we weight the bay area by number of packages, then obviously we
should meet at Joey Hess's house.  If debian packages had mass, Joey's
computer would be inside a Schwarzchild radius.  :-)
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Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Waters wrote:
 OTOH, if we weight the bay area by number of packages, then obviously we
 should meet at Joey Hess's house.  If debian packages had mass, Joey's
 computer would be inside a Schwarzchild radius.  :-)

There are currently 819,253 .deb files located inside my house, give or take
a few. So I guess you're right. :-)

On a more serious vein, I hope David Welton will make an executive decision
by the end of today about where to have this party. It's clear we arn't
going to get a consensus.

-- 
see shy jo, realizing Chris meant something else..


Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-26 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 05:43:18PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote:

 We are mere hours away from the largest IRC party Debian has ever
 thrown -- bigger than Bo, bigger even than Hamm.  :-)
 
 The release of 2.1 Slink will happen:

 in America: at 4:00 PM PDT on Monday Mar 1

Given that there will be a lot of us in the bay area for the
linuxworld expo, maybe people would like to get together in person?
(I'm personally of the opinion that 'party' constitutes something with
real people [hopefully of the opposite sex], real food and or alcohol,
and real music [no techno;-)))] ).

Anyway, 4 PM is a bit early for me on Monday (have to work), but if
people would like to meet somewhere that evening, it could be fun.

How about it?
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