Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 01:04:47 Bob Holtzman wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
   I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.
 
  Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.
 
  What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use
  Ubuntu.

 How about Marvelous Mark's dictatorial attitude? That's reason enough
 for me.

Yes, but you're not claiming that Ubuntu is marvellous, wonderful and the 
solution to all ills!  Or are you?

Lisi


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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-29 Thread Richard Hector
On 29/04/15 19:31, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 April 2015 01:04:47 Bob Holtzman wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
 I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.
 
 Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.
 
 What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just
 use Ubuntu.
 
 How about Marvelous Mark's dictatorial attitude? That's reason
 enough for me.
 
 Yes, but you're not claiming that Ubuntu is marvellous, wonderful
 and the solution to all ills!  Or are you?

I don't think the OP did either. He just provided a point of comparison.

Richard


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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie? Am I?

2015-04-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150429_2219+1200, Richard Hector wrote:
 On 29/04/15 19:31, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 April 2015 01:04:47 Bob Holtzman wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
  I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.
  
  Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.
  
  What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just
  use Ubuntu.
  
  How about Marvelous Mark's dictatorial attitude? That's reason
  enough for me.
  
  Yes, but you're not claiming that Ubuntu is marvellous, wonderful
  and the solution to all ills!  Or are you?
 
 I don't think the OP did either. He just provided a point of comparison.
 
 Richard

I have been using msmtp for several months. I think its still working
for me.

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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-29 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 08:31:06AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 29 April 2015 01:04:47 Bob Holtzman wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
   On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.
  
   Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.
  
   What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use
   Ubuntu.
 
  How about Marvelous Mark's dictatorial attitude? That's reason enough
  for me.
 
 Yes, but you're not claiming that Ubuntu is marvellous, wonderful and the 
 solution to all ills!  Or are you?

You can bet your last nickel it wasn't me. Unless I misread the quotes,
I thought it was you.

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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 29 April 2015 21:41:32 Bob Holtzman wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 08:31:06AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 April 2015 01:04:47 Bob Holtzman wrote:
   On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
 I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.
   
Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.
   
What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use
Ubuntu.
  
   How about Marvelous Mark's dictatorial attitude? That's reason enough
   for me.
 
  Yes, but you're not claiming that Ubuntu is marvellous, wonderful and the
  solution to all ills!  Or are you?

 You can bet your last nickel it wasn't me. Unless I misread the quotes,
 I thought it was you.

You misread the quotes.

John Boyer complained of something and then said that he didn't have this 
problem with Ubuntu.  I meant that I did wish that people who think that 
Ubuntu is the solution to all ills, would just use Ubuntu, and I don't 
understand why they don't.  I was being ironic.  Even sarcastic.

Lisi


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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-29 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Thu, 30 Apr 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:


I was being ironic.  Even sarcastic.


Which is why you are so valuable to this group.


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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
  I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.
 
 Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.
 
 What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use Ubuntu.

How about Marvelous Mark's dictatorial attitude? That's reason enough
for me.

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A fair fight is the result of poor planning.


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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread David Baron
A shot in the dark:

The installation provides a too-small /var partition (among other too-small 
partitions). Update some packages, fill up some logs and bingo.

Try df. If it shows /var at 100%, that will do it. Run sudo apt-get clean 
and feel the difference.


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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 07:23:41PM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote:
 I'm using msmtp to send mail, but I suspect the same problem would occur 
 with any of the other mail programs. Whenever I try to send a message I 
 get the error TLS handshake failed. Operation timed out. There sems to 
 be a mismatch between the default TLS settings and those of my mail 
 provider's server. I did not have this problem with Ubuntu. 
 Investigation shows that the problem is most likeluy in  the gnuTLS 
 library.

I am using msmtp with TLS and everything works fine here (Debian jessie).
The 'defaults' section in my config file has:

defaults
protocol smtp
port 465
tls on
tls_starttls off
auth on
timeout 30

I suspect your problem might be related to `tls_starttls`, check the setting
and let us know if that helped.



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Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote:
 I did not have this problem with Ubuntu.

Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills.

What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use Ubuntu.

Lisi


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