Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:51:08AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 18 nov 11, 19:44:09, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > You might try using Openbox. I run it without a desktop environment and it > > just > > works. Even better without the overhead of LXDE. > > $ ps aux | grep -i lx > amp 3151 0.0 0.0 4012 1392 tty1 SNov15 0:00 > /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE > amp 3164 0.2 0.5 25700 11272 tty1 SNov15 15:18 openbox > --config-file /home/amp/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml > amp 3166 1.5 3.3 167032 67984 tty1 SNov15 80:14 lxpanel > --profile LXDE > amp 3174 0.0 0.4 102764 9040 tty1 SNov15 0:00 pcmanfm > --desktop --profile LXDE > [manually deleted the 'grep lx' entry'] > $ uptime > 11:38:36 up 3 days, 15:50, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.08 > > It seems lxpanel brings some "overhead" (at least compared to openbox), > but it's probably due to the several applets (including a systray with > other apps). I doubt however that it is significant for any other usage > of LXDE than terminal multiplexer. > > Kind regards, > Andrei ---end quoted text--- Might be more relevant if you removed LXDE entirely and installed openbox by itself. Then compare the results of LXDE Desktop Environment vs Openbox Window Manager. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2019114125.ga2...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Vi, 18 nov 11, 19:44:09, Stephen Allen wrote: > > You might try using Openbox. I run it without a desktop environment and it > just > works. Even better without the overhead of LXDE. $ ps aux | grep -i lx amp 3151 0.0 0.0 4012 1392 tty1 SNov15 0:00 /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE amp 3164 0.2 0.5 25700 11272 tty1 SNov15 15:18 openbox --config-file /home/amp/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml amp 3166 1.5 3.3 167032 67984 tty1 SNov15 80:14 lxpanel --profile LXDE amp 3174 0.0 0.4 102764 9040 tty1 SNov15 0:00 pcmanfm --desktop --profile LXDE [manually deleted the 'grep lx' entry'] $ uptime 11:38:36 up 3 days, 15:50, 7 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.08 It seems lxpanel brings some "overhead" (at least compared to openbox), but it's probably due to the several applets (including a systray with other apps). I doubt however that it is significant for any other usage of LXDE than terminal multiplexer. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 08:39:06PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE? > > I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install > parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users who are > subscribed to this list. > > Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement for > GNOME 3. Am I mistaken? > > Cheers! > > Ralf > ---end quoted text--- You might try using Openbox. I run it without a desktop environment and it just works. Even better without the overhead of LXDE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2019004408.ga4...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Ma, 15 nov 11, 01:15:53, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:53:59 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > LXDE is even smaller and faster, but also has less features. > > Interesting comment. What in your opinion is missing? - drag & drop configuring of the taskbar - more applets - more features for the various applets and configuration applications - etc. > FWIW I am using LXDE and Openbox and have not noticed any missing > functionality which cannot be remedied by editing a text file. > Disclaimer: I do run a couple of GNOME applications; i.e. Gedit 2 (as I > find macros useful, and there are none available AFAIK for Leafpad), and > Evince, as I didn't find the default LXDE PDF viewer satisfactory. I was not talking about applications, but... - editor: of course Leafpad is not comparable to Gedit, not in features but also not in size and dependencies, but I prefer vim anyway ;) - pdf viewer: does LXDE even have one? I'm using evince-gtk But I'm not complaining. In fact I'm quite happy with the balance of LXDE and so do my mother, father and a few other users that I have inflicted Debian upon ;) The one user that I will not be able to convert is my brother who is still quite hooked up on KDE and has inflicted that on others as well if their hardware was good enough and I was too far for the initial install. Fortunately I was able to convince him to accept LXDE even on his office machines, so the only "victim" left is his brother-in-law, but it's on my TODO list :) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 08:39:06PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE? > > I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install > parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users who are > subscribed to this list. > > Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement for > GNOME 3. Am I mistaken? > I switched away from GNOME 2 a couple years ago, mainly because I was using a very old laptop at the time and needed something really lightweight. I use Fluxbox now, even on my newer machines. I like it because it is lightweight, fairly minimalist, and worked basically the same as the mainstream desktops (there is a taskbar, a dock, a menu, etc.) Some of the setup requires editing text files. I personally found it interesting to choose exactly what programs I wanted to run at startup. Setting it up was an enlightening experience -- not painful, but not without some minor challenges. I launch just about all my programs with keyboard shortcuts. I can move and resize my windows with keyboard shortcuts. I raise and lower my volume with keyboard shortcuts. I love not having to use the mouse if I don't want to. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2015014935.gb2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:53:59 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > LXDE is even smaller and faster, but also has less features. Interesting comment. What in your opinion is missing? FWIW I am using LXDE and Openbox and have not noticed any missing functionality which cannot be remedied by editing a text file. Disclaimer: I do run a couple of GNOME applications; i.e. Gedit 2 (as I find macros useful, and there are none available AFAIK for Leafpad), and Evince, as I didn't find the default LXDE PDF viewer satisfactory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9seg9$m45$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE? Starting with Squeeze I've been using XFCE full time to replace Gnome 2.x. For whatever reason in Squeeze Gnome is slower than molasses. Gnome was fine in Lenny. I've always had Xfce installed alongside Gnome and have always liked it for its performance and features. It's a great lightweight and relatively customizable DE. > I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install > parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users who are > subscribed to this list. > > Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement for > GNOME 3. Am I mistaken? I have not tried it myself but judging by this weekend's deluge of threads regarding Gnome 3 I will be avoiding it like MRSA. -- Pete Orrall ppat...@gmail.com If there isn't a way I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1321311806.2375.13.camel@Neuron.8EEWS
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Lu, 14 nov 11, 20:39:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE? > > I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install > parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users who are > subscribed to this list. > > Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement for > GNOME 3. Am I mistaken? Although I don't feel addressed (I never used Gnome) I have used Xfce for a long time before switching to LXDE and I can say it is a good choice for Gnome 3 refugees. LXDE is even smaller and faster, but also has less features. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:00:33 + Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hi :) > > > > do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE? > > > > I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install > > parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users > > who are subscribed to this list. > > > > Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement > > for GNOME 3. Am I mistaken? > > > > I never used xfce before but I know a lot of people that do. So since > I don't like G3 very much I decided to give it a try. > > So far.. so god... so what !? :) I'm planning on sticking with xfce. > It's simple, fast... does what I need. That's about it. Xfce has the panel facility. So does LXDE. Both are light weight enough to have enlightenment run on top and still give change in the footprint. I like two Window Managers, as I've had XFCE play up in the past and Enlightenment is a far different story to what it used to be and has panels also. You can hide them as well to cater for real estate requirement. Now my WM of choice. Regards, Weaver. -- "In a world without walls and fences, what need have we for Windows or Gates?" -Anon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2015073455.49879bf4.wea...@riseup.net
Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 20:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE? > > I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install > parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users who are > subscribed to this list. > > Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement for > GNOME 3. Am I mistaken? > I never used xfce before but I know a lot of people that do. So since I don't like G3 very much I decided to give it a try. So far.. so god... so what !? :) I'm planning on sticking with xfce. It's simple, fast... does what I need. That's about it. Cheers João > Cheers! > > Ralf > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1321304433.3611.1.ca...@wheejy.critical.pt
