Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-21 Thread Frank Miles
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:20:02 +0200, Tixy wrote:

> On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 05:09 +, Frank Miles wrote:
>> [...] It's simply odd that the packages derived from geda-gaf do not
>> contain the gaf utility {none of the derived binary packages seem to
>> have it, not even geda-utils}.
> 
> Is 'gaf' meant to be a separate program? I'm running Debian Jessie and
> seem to have all the utilities listed on
> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gaf

Yes - at least that's my understanding from the geda web-site.  It says:
gaf(1) is a multipurpose command line utility implementing 
setting up the above programs, exporting schematics and symbols 
into various formats, and shell for command line processing of 
their data.

See also: http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gaf_utility

What I want to be able to do is to print schematics without needing X[11] 
running.  I was able to make this work for a while using a utility
that simulated the X environment - but this stopped working nearly a
year ago, and I haven't had the time to see if I could restore it
somehow.  'gaf' provides a mechanism for printing that does
not require X.

Thanks for your interest!

  -Frank


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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-21 Thread Joe
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:18:14 +0100
Tixy  wrote:

> On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 05:09 +, Frank Miles wrote:
> > [...] It's simply odd that the packages derived from geda-gaf do
> > not contain the gaf utility {none of the derived binary packages
> > seem to have it, not even geda-utils}.
> 
> Is 'gaf' meant to be a separate program? I'm running Debian Jessie and
> seem to have all the utilities listed on
> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gaf
> 
> I have these geda packages installed
>   geda
>   geda-doc
>   geda-examples
>   geda-gattrib
>   geda-gnetlist
>   geda-gschem
>   geda-gsymcheck
>   geda-symbols
>   geda-utils
>   geda-xgsch2pcb
> 
> and "dpkg-query -L geda-utils" gives these
> 
>   /usr/bin/sw2asc
>   /usr/bin/sarlacc_schem
>   /usr/bin/schdiff
>   /usr/bin/tragesym
>   /usr/bin/pads_backannotate
>   /usr/bin/olib
>   /usr/bin/convert_sym
>   /usr/bin/garchive
>   /usr/bin/gmk_sym
>   /usr/bin/grenum
>   /usr/bin/gsch2pcb
>   /usr/bin/sarlacc_sym
>   /usr/bin/gschlas
>   /usr/bin/gsymfix
>   /usr/bin/smash_megafile
>   /usr/bin/refdes_renum
>   /usr/bin/gxyrs
>   /usr/bin/pcb_backannotate
> 
> Which utilities specifically where you looking for?
> 
> 

This rings a bell. I needed gaf (a separate utility with some new
graphic rendering features) for a project over a year ago [1], and it
only existed in geda-gaf 1.9.0 and later. This never seems to have got
near Debian, which has nothing later than 1.8.2, but I must have found
it somewhere.

It's quite odd, I really don't recall compiling it, but my binary files
seem to have no identification, are all dated 25th May 2013, and I can
find no trace of a downloaded .deb or similar. I have to conclude that I
did compile it, presumably from source straight from the geda site. The
binaries include gschem and gattrib, as well as gaf and the utilities
you list above and the complete symbol library.

There seems to be a few references to 1.9.0 and 1.9.1 packages, but
it all seems experimental so far. I think if gaf is needed, building
1.9.0 or 1.9.1 from source is still the only practical option.

[1] http://www.jre-systems.co.uk/geda/

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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-21 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 05:09 +, Frank Miles wrote:
> [...] It's simply odd that the packages derived from geda-gaf do
> not contain the gaf utility {none of the derived binary packages
> seem to have it, not even geda-utils}.

Is 'gaf' meant to be a separate program? I'm running Debian Jessie and
seem to have all the utilities listed on
http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gaf

I have these geda packages installed
geda
geda-doc
geda-examples
geda-gattrib
geda-gnetlist
geda-gschem
geda-gsymcheck
geda-symbols
geda-utils
geda-xgsch2pcb

and "dpkg-query -L geda-utils" gives these

/usr/bin/sw2asc
/usr/bin/sarlacc_schem
/usr/bin/schdiff
/usr/bin/tragesym
/usr/bin/pads_backannotate
/usr/bin/olib
/usr/bin/convert_sym
/usr/bin/garchive
/usr/bin/gmk_sym
/usr/bin/grenum
/usr/bin/gsch2pcb
/usr/bin/sarlacc_sym
/usr/bin/gschlas
/usr/bin/gsymfix
/usr/bin/smash_megafile
/usr/bin/refdes_renum
/usr/bin/gxyrs
/usr/bin/pcb_backannotate

Which utilities specifically where you looking for?


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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Frank Miles
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 01:20:01 +0200, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

> On 9/19/14, Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:
>> On 9/19/14, Frank Miles  wrote:
>>> Strange.  Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package
>>> (old form at
>>> https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html
>>> which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and
>>> unstable.
>>> There are update dates from earlier in 2014.
>>>
>>> But if I search on the Debian web-site, doing a package search for
>>> 'gaf' I
>>> only find 'gafitter'.  Doing a direct package search either on wheezy
>>> or testing similarly finds no geda-gaf package.
>>>
>>> I'm confused - can anyone explain what is going on here?  TIA!
>>
>>
>> Will this help at all?
>>
>> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/geda-gaf/
> 
> 
> On afterthought, tried "apt-cache search" on ANY form of it (geda,
> gaf, OR geda-gaf).. That did bring up a couple geda packages, including
> geda but not your sought after geda-gaf.
> 
> *hm* ? :)
> 
> Cindy
> 
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> 
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Ok, I'm blind.  I had missed the 'source' aspect, which now makes
sense.  It's simply odd that the packages derived from geda-gaf do
not contain the gaf utility {none of the derived binary packages
seem to have it, not even geda-utils}.

Thanks Cindy and Brian!  


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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Brian  wrote:
>
> geda-gaf is the name of the source package. I think you want to search
> with "geda".


That explains what I found then. Am on dialup and it's just too much
to try to download those 6+MB sized files purely to peek inside for
what they contain.. :))

Cindy

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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:
> On 9/19/14, Frank Miles  wrote:
>> Strange.  Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old
>> form at
>>  https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html
>> which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and
>> unstable.
>> There are update dates from earlier in 2014.
>>
>> But if I search on the Debian web-site, doing a package search for 'gaf'
>> I
>> only
>> find 'gafitter'.  Doing a direct package search either on wheezy or
>> testing
>> similarly finds no geda-gaf package.
>>
>> I'm confused - can anyone explain what is going on here?  TIA!
>
>
> Will this help at all?
>
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/geda-gaf/


On afterthought, tried "apt-cache search" on ANY form of it (geda,
gaf, OR geda-gaf).. That did bring up a couple geda packages,
including geda but not your sought after geda-gaf.

*hm* ? :)

Cindy

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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Brian
On Fri 19 Sep 2014 at 22:42:23 +, Frank Miles wrote:

> Strange.  Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old 
> form at
>   https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html
> which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and unstable.
> There are update dates from earlier in 2014.
> 
> But if I search on the Debian web-site, doing a package search for 'gaf' I 
> only
> find 'gafitter'.  Doing a direct package search either on wheezy or testing
> similarly finds no geda-gaf package.
> 
> I'm confused - can anyone explain what is going on here?  TIA!

geda-gaf is the name of the source package. I think you want to search
with "geda".


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Re: Is geda-gaf in debian?

2014-09-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Frank Miles  wrote:
> Strange.  Doing a web-search, I find a page for the geda-gaf package (old
> form at
>   https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/geda-gaf.html
> which seems to say that geda-gaf is part of stable, testing, and unstable.
> There are update dates from earlier in 2014.
>
> But if I search on the Debian web-site, doing a package search for 'gaf' I
> only
> find 'gafitter'.  Doing a direct package search either on wheezy or testing
> similarly finds no geda-gaf package.
>
> I'm confused - can anyone explain what is going on here?  TIA!


Will this help at all?

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/geda-gaf/

Cindy :)

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