Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On Mi, 19 dec 12, 18:22:31, Mark Allums wrote: > > In the long run, it's best to learn apt and > aptitude from the command line, but for now, Synaptic or the Aptitude > ncurses UI are probably the gentlest way to get used to installing packages. IMVHO aptitude interactive is superior to the command line for most uses, but I do agree knowing both is good. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
RE: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
"Mark Allums" writes: > On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: [ snipped ] > Typically, the dependencies of experimental packages are not sorted > out properly, so installing them can be a trial. I routinely install > package from experimental, and from my experience, I recommend NOT to > do it. I make exceptions for new kernels, and occasionally language > tools, like the imminent release of gcc-4.8, but never anything than > might impact my ability to boot or read & write to the hard disk. > Libreoffice should be safe enough, but *beware*! OK, I have been warned. So, with my sources.list ( one can it see in previously posted mail in this thread ) if I upgrade ( sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ) my Debian system, that has installed only LibreOffice from the experimental repository, how can I know whether other already installed packages from the unstable repository doesn't become upgraded from the experimental repository? ( I hope this is explained clear, because English isn't my first language.) _ In theory, apt will not install from the experimental repository, unless you tell it to, but I never feel completely comfortable about that. Programs acquire bugs and regressions, and I would hate to find out the hard way. Do not! Use upgrade or dist-upgrade for this! Use apt-get install and install the libreOffice meta-package (whatever the actual name is, probably libreoffice. Or, you can apt-get install synaptic and then run Synaptic, where you can see more clearly what you have selected to install. In Synaptic, you can set the preferred distribution to whichever repository you want to draw from from a drop-down list, and then check it each time you run Synaptic, using its menus. In the long run, it's best to learn apt and aptitude from the command line, but for now, Synaptic or the Aptitude ncurses UI are probably the gentlest way to get used to installing packages. If you use the command line, after you install LibreOffice and are satisfied, go back to sources.list and comment out the line for the experimental repository. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/00ff01cdde48$1a5e4650$4f1ad2f0$@allums.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
Hi Mark, "Mark Allums" writes: > On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: [ snipped ] > Typically, the dependencies of experimental packages are not sorted out > properly, so installing them can be a trial. I routinely install package > from experimental, and from my experience, I recommend NOT to do it. I make > exceptions for new kernels, and occasionally language tools, like the > imminent release of gcc-4.8, but never anything than might impact my ability > to boot or read & write to the hard disk. Libreoffice should be safe > enough, but *beware*! OK, I have been warned. So, with my sources.list ( one can it see in previously posted mail in this thread ) if I upgrade ( sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ) my Debian system, that has installed only LibreOffice from the experimental repository, how can I know whether other already installed packages from the unstable repository doesn't become upgraded from the experimental repository? ( I hope this is explained clear, because English isn't my first language.) -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txrhpzol@gmail.com
RE: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Sven Joachim writes: > >> On 2012-12-17 20:36 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: >>> >>> After that I try to install libreoffice by running: >>> >>> sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice >>> libhsqldb-java/unstable [...] Please advice me how to go further to >>> get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! >> >> Do you have libreoffice 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 from unstable currently >> installed? > > I have installed only two package currently: > libreoffice-l10n-hu > libreoffice-l10n-sr > > so now I'm going to purge these two packages too. > > Done, but the command: > sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice > libhsqldb-java/unstable > > still produce the same errors as previously. > It might be better to install the libreoffice version from unstable first (should already pull in libhsqldb-java) and then retry. Typically, the dependencies of experimental packages are not sorted out properly, so installing them can be a trial. I routinely install package from experimental, and from my experience, I recommend NOT to do it. I make exceptions for new kernels, and occasionally language tools, like the imminent release of gcc-4.8, but never anything than might impact my ability to boot or read & write to the hard disk. Libreoffice should be safe enough, but *beware*! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/038d01cddcb4$11998470$34cc8d50$@allums.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4? YES IT IS!
Sven Joachim writes: > On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > >> Sven Joachim writes: >> >>> On 2012-12-17 20:36 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: After that I try to install libreoffice by running: sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable [...] Please advice me how to go further to get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! >>> >>> Do you have libreoffice 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 from unstable currently >>> installed? >> >> I have installed only two package currently: >> libreoffice-l10n-hu >> libreoffice-l10n-sr >> >> so now I'm going to purge these two packages too. >> >> Done, but the command: >> sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable >> >> still produce the same errors as previously. > > It might be better to install the libreoffice version from unstable > first (should already pull in libhsqldb-java) and then retry. OK I did the followings: sudo aptitude install libreoffice/unstable and sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libcmis-0.2-0 libcommons-beanutils-java libcommons-collections3-java libcommons-compress-java libcommons-digester-java libdb-java libdb-je-java libicu4j-java libjtidy-java liblucene2-java libxz-java Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: libcdr-0.0-0 libclucene-contribs1 libclucene-core1 libcmis-0.2-2 libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filter-binfilter libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer python-uno uno-libs3 ure Suggested packages: myspell-dictionary libreoffice-help-3.6 libreoffice-l10n-3.6 mythes-thesaurus libreoffice-grammarcheck libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde openclipart-libreoffice libreoffice-officebean libmyodbc odbc-postgresql libsqliteodbc tdsodbc mdbtools libreoffice-gcj libreoffice-report-builder libreoffice-style-hicontrast libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-style-crystal libreoffice-style-oxygen The following NEW packages will be installed: libcdr-0.0-0 libclucene-contribs1 libclucene-core1 libcmis-0.2-2 The following packages will be upgraded: libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-filter-binfilter libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-writer python-uno uno-libs3 ure 16 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 521 not upgraded. Need to get 74.8 MB of archives. After this operation, 26.3 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Success here! I install after that hte Hungarian language pack too: sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice-l10n-hu -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874njkwe2o.fsf...@gmail.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On 2012-12-17 21:41 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Sven Joachim writes: > >> On 2012-12-17 20:36 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: >>> >>> After that I try to install libreoffice by running: >>> >>> sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable >>> [...] >>> Please advice me how to go further to get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! >> >> Do you have libreoffice 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 from unstable currently >> installed? > > I have installed only two package currently: > libreoffice-l10n-hu > libreoffice-l10n-sr > > so now I'm going to purge these two packages too. > > Done, but the command: > sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable > > still produce the same errors as previously. It might be better to install the libreoffice version from unstable first (should already pull in libhsqldb-java) and then retry. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5gwpf4n@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
Sven Joachim writes: > On 2012-12-17 20:36 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > >> Well, if I understand you correctly, my sources.list is now: >> >> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free >> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free >> >> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free >> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free >> >> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free >> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free >> >> deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main >> deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main >> >> # Bitlbee >> deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ >> >> Is this the right setup? > > Yes, that is correct. > >> I did 'sudo apt-get update'. >> >> After that I try to install libreoffice by running: >> >> sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable >> [...] >> Please advice me how to go further to get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! > > Do you have libreoffice 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 from unstable currently > installed? I have installed only two package currently: libreoffice-l10n-hu libreoffice-l10n-sr so now I'm going to purge these two packages too. Done, but the command: sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable still produce the same errors as previously. -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bodswgvr@gmail.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On 2012-12-17 20:36 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Well, if I understand you correctly, my sources.list is now: > > deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free > > deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free > > deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free > > deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main > deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main > > # Bitlbee > deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ > > Is this the right setup? Yes, that is correct. > I did 'sudo apt-get update'. > > After that I try to install libreoffice by running: > > sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable > [...] > Please advice me how to go further to get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! Do you have libreoffice 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 from unstable currently installed? Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/876240qvb6@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On 12/17/2012 02:36 PM, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hi Sven, Sven Joachim writes: On 2012-12-17 08:28 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Sven Joachim writes: On 2012-12-16 21:44 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: one can install LibreOffice version 3.6.4 on Ubuntu but can't on Debian SID. It is necessary to have an entry for experimental in your sources.list. Do you have one already? No, I haven't it yet. How should look like such an entry in my sources.list? The same as the following, with s/sid/experimental/. My sources.list follows: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free Well, if I understand you correctly, my sources.list is now: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main # Bitlbee deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ Is this the right setup? I did 'sudo apt-get update'. After that I try to install libreoffice by running: sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Selected version '1.8.0.10-14' (Debian:unstable [all]) for 'libhsqldb-java' Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libreoffice : Depends: libreoffice-core(= 1:3.6.4-1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-writer but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-calc but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-impress but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-draw but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-math but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-base but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-report-builder-bin but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-filter-mobiledev but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-java-common (>= 1:3.6.4~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Please advice me how to go further to get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! apt-listbugs shows bugs in lilibreoffice #693626 - Failing dist-upgrade: Couldn't configure pre-depend ure... (Fixed: libreoffice/1:3.6.4~rc3-1 libreoffice/1:3.5.4+dfsg-4) & libreoffice-writer #690066 - libreoffice-writer: silently corrupts docx file You should be able to find that with the tools you have, or should have installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50cf7ee5.8010...@gmail.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
Hi Sven, Sven Joachim writes: > On 2012-12-17 08:28 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > >> Sven Joachim writes: >> >>> On 2012-12-16 21:44 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: >> one can install LibreOffice version 3.6.4 on Ubuntu but can't on Debian SID. >>> >>> It is necessary to have an entry for experimental in your >>> sources.list. Do you have one already? >> >> No, I haven't it yet. >> >> How should look like such an entry in my sources.list? > > The same as the following, with s/sid/experimental/. > >> My sources.list follows: >> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free >> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free Well, if I understand you correctly, my sources.list is now: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main # Bitlbee deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ Is this the right setup? I did 'sudo apt-get update'. After that I try to install libreoffice by running: sudo apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Selected version '1.8.0.10-14' (Debian:unstable [all]) for 'libhsqldb-java' Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libreoffice : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 1:3.6.4-1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-writer but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-calc but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-impress but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-draw but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-math but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-base but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-report-builder-bin but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-filter-mobiledev but it is not going to be installed Depends: libreoffice-java-common (>= 1:3.6.4~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Please advice me how to go further to get libreoffice 3.6.4 installed! -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hankwjw6@gmail.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On 2012-12-17 08:28 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Sven Joachim writes: > >> On 2012-12-16 21:44 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > >>> one can install LibreOffice version 3.6.4 on Ubuntu but can't on Debian >>> SID. >> >> It is necessary to have an entry for experimental in your sources.list. >> Do you have one already? > > No, I haven't it yet. > > How should look like such an entry in my sources.list? The same as the following, with s/sid/experimental/. > My sources.list follows: > deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bodsqze1@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
Hi Sven, Sven Joachim writes: > On 2012-12-16 21:44 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: >> one can install LibreOffice version 3.6.4 on Ubuntu but can't on Debian >> SID. > > It is necessary to have an entry for experimental in your sources.list. > Do you have one already? No, I haven't it yet. How should look like such an entry in my sources.list? My sources.list follows: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main # Bitlbee deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ >> On my system: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) I have only the libreoffice >> version 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4. >> >> Can I still install here the LibreOffice version 3.6.4? > > Probably, although it might need a bit of handholding. The following > seems to work here, use at your own risk: > > # apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable > It was necessary for me to tell apt-get to install libhsqldb-java from > unstable since there is also a version in experimental which is not > compatible with libreoffice-base/experimental. > > Cheers, >Sven -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87d2y9m91s@gmail.com
Re: Is it possible to install nowadays on Debian SID the LibreOffice 3.6.4?
On 2012-12-16 21:44 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Hi, > > one can install LibreOffice version 3.6.4 on Ubuntu but can't on Debian > SID. It is necessary to have an entry for experimental in your sources.list. Do you have one already? > On my system: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) I have only the libreoffice > version 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4. > > Can I still install here the LibreOffice version 3.6.4? Probably, although it might need a bit of handholding. The following seems to work here, use at your own risk: # apt-get -t experimental install libreoffice libhsqldb-java/unstable It was necessary for me to tell apt-get to install libhsqldb-java from unstable since there is also a version in experimental which is not compatible with libreoffice-base/experimental. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874njlela1@turtle.gmx.de
