Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:11:31 -0800
Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Actually, I just tried xine.  So far, it has handled all file formats 
 that I have thrown at it, including Real Media live streaming audio and 

I miss xine. :(

I'm running testing/etch. 

There are variants, such as totem, gxine of course, as well as mplayer
(which I compiled from source) but I haven't been able to play
everything. npr has been an issue, for one. I have realplayer of course
installed, but the others will from time to time complain about a
missing library (libcook.so). I recall encountering this problem before
when I was running Mandrake).

ISTR that having libcook was a big requirement to be able to play real
media audio or video.

Otherwise, mplayer seems to be the best thing in terms of being able
to play files (especially different types of video files), but what
seems to have happened to xine? It seems to be gone, having been
replaced (as far as I can tell) by gxine and/or totem, neither seem
to work well for playing most video files over here, although that has
not been entirely true in the past. 

What I've been seeing with totem/gxine in particular are tons of X11
resource (i.e., BadAlloc, insufficient resources for operation) issues -
these also happen to come up from time to time with mplayer, but at
least with the latter you can specify -vo x11 as a parameter on the
command line. With the others, this does not seem to be possible.

The other thing I don't understand re: gxine is the need to run lirc.


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:28:01 +
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew M.A. Cater) wrote:


 Download the all* package for Linux of Windows and other codecs.

That seems to have worked. (etch)  - at least gxine now is able to play
one .rm file I've tried, and no longer complains about a missing 'cook'
library (see my other post in the thread).



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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:25:14 -0800
David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:11:31 -0800
 Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Actually, I just tried xine.  So far, it has handled all file formats 
  that I have thrown at it, including Real Media live streaming audio and 
 
 I miss xine. :(

AFAIK xine has always consisted of xine-lib and xine-ui. The lib is the one 
that does all the job, while ui is just a front-end. gxine is just another 
front-end. xine-ui is apt-get-able ... (i like it more)

Andrei

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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-15 Thread Christoph Nenning

Hi,

to install a precompiled version of mplayer you can add this line to your 
sources.list :

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main

to play all videos you should also install the package w32codecs

regards

Christoph


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-15 Thread Marc Shapiro

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:25:14 -0800
David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:11:31 -0800
Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Actually, I just tried xine.  So far, it has handled all file formats 
that I have thrown at it, including Real Media live streaming audio and 


I miss xine. :(



AFAIK xine has always consisted of xine-lib and xine-ui. The lib is the one 
that does all the job, while ui is just a front-end. gxine is just another 
front-end. xine-ui is apt-get-able ... (i like it more)


Actually, it does seem to be missing from testing.  As I said, I like 
xine.  It seems to do everything that I need it to do.  (Playing DVDs 
would be nice, but I guess that is not likely to happen anytime soon 
here in the U.S.)  The xine-ui package shows up in Sarge and Sid, right 
now, but not Etch.  Maybe it is just a question of waiting until 
everything trickles down from Sid.  Me?  I'll just stick with Sarge, 
where things just work, mostly.


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-07 Thread Adam Funk
On Friday 30 December 2005 16:50, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Bryan G wrote:
 i found this, I haven't installed it yet but it claims to replace
 realplayer without the problems of realplayer taking over your PC
 http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm
 
 I find that mplayer is a far better substitute for what I used to use
 RealPlayer for: mp3 streams.
 
 1. You can record and play at the same time w/o using vsound.

How do you do that?  I know how to record a stream to a WAV file, but
not how to play it at the same time.


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-07 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 01:47:43PM -1000, Bryan G wrote:
 i found this, I haven't installed it yet but it claims to replace realplayer
 without the problems of realplayer taking over your PC
 http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm

Looked at the site.  It seems to be Windows software.

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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:15:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 01:47:43PM -1000, Bryan G wrote:
  i found this, I haven't installed it yet but it claims to replace realplayer
  without the problems of realplayer taking over your PC
  http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm
 
 Looked at the site.  It seems to be Windows software.
 
 --hendrik
 
Go to the home site for mplayer.

Download the all* package for Linux of Windows and other codecs.

As root, create a directory in /usr/lib called /usr/lib/win32

Unpack the codecs into it. [I copied the all*codecs.tar.bz there,
unpacked it, creating an all*codecs directory, changed into that
directory and copied everything to the level above].

Now run either/both of

apt-get install kaffeine  [Optionally apt-get install libdvdread and
run the installer script found in /usr/share/docs/examples/ if you
want to install the libdvdcss libraries to play encrypted DVD's]

apt-get install helix-player mozilla-helix-player

Tell mozilla to associate .ram files with either /usr/bin/kaffeine
or /usr/bin/helixplayer
 
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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 03:28:01PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

 Unpack the codecs into it. [I copied the all*codecs.tar.bz there,
 unpacked it, creating an all*codecs directory, changed into that
 directory and copied everything to the level above].

... and violate the terms of the original request, for a GPL substitute.
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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 02:15:07PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 03:28:01PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
 
  Unpack the codecs into it. [I copied the all*codecs.tar.bz there,
  unpacked it, creating an all*codecs directory, changed into that
  directory and copied everything to the level above].
 
 ... and violate the terms of the original request, for a GPL substitute.
 -- 
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 If you attempt to fix something that isn't broken, it will be.
 -Bruce Tognazzini
 
Strictly, Kaffeine and Helixplayer are GPL. Only the codecs are not.
If you want a GPL'd player which doesn't report back to anyone - you
have it. Copying the codecs across merely means that it plays more
content. The players are DFSG free, the plugins aren't. Similarly,
it's an option to install libdvdread to decode DVD's. No one is
constrained to - many of us do.

Andy


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2006-01-06 Thread Robert Glueck
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Bryan G wrote:
 i found this, I haven't installed it yet but it claims to
 replace realplayer without the problems of realplayer
 taking over your PC
 http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm
 
 I find that mplayer is a far better substitute for what I
 used to use RealPlayer for: mp3 streams.
 
 1. You can record and play at the same time w/o using
 vsound. 2. The quality of the sound is far better.
 3. OpenSource. None of that hide how it works stuff.
 4. Textmode. Runs on the textconsole.
 
 I am listening right now to KUSC with mplayer at the same
 time it is recording the stream.
 
 
 H

Could you specify the command that would allow you to do #1? 
Thanks.
Robert


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2005-12-30 Thread Terence
 Does this work under linux?  All I see on the site specifies
 Win95/96/2000/XP or only Win2000/XP.


Try Google for Helix

Terence



Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2005-12-30 Thread Marc Shapiro

Terence wrote:

Does this work under linux?  All I see on the site specifies
Win95/96/2000/XP or only Win2000/XP.




Try Google for Helix


Actually, I just tried xine.  So far, it has handled all file formats 
that I have thrown at it, including Real Media live streaming audio and 
canned shows from NPR, as well as Real Media Video (.rmvb) and Quicktime 
video (.mov).  I may yet be able to get rid of Real 10, and all the 
other progs that I have been trying that can not play .mov files.


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2005-12-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Bryan G wrote:
i found this, I haven't installed it yet but it claims to replace 
realplayer without the problems of realplayer taking over your PC

http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm


I find that mplayer is a far better substitute for what I used to use 
RealPlayer for: mp3 streams.


1. You can record and play at the same time w/o using vsound.
2. The quality of the sound is far better.
3. OpenSource. None of that hide how it works stuff.
4. Textmode. Runs on the textconsole.

I am listening right now to KUSC with mplayer at the same time it is 
recording the stream.



H


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Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2005-12-29 Thread Bryan G



i found this, I 
haven't installed it yet but it claims to replace realplayer without the 
problems of realplayer taking over your PC
http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm


Re: Is there a GPL substitute for RealPlayer?

2005-12-29 Thread Marc Shapiro

Bryan G wrote:
i found this, I haven't installed it yet but it claims to replace 
realplayer without the problems of realplayer taking over your PC

http://www.codecguide.com/download_real.htm


Does this work under linux?  All I see on the site specifies 
Win95/96/2000/XP or only Win2000/XP.


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