Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-11 Thread Victor Munoz
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 04:51:33PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
 You may be onto something. I had a similar (but smaller) problem with a 
 Danish-speaking yahoo mailing list: A lot of the emails said they had 
 US-ASCII encoding, but they *really* were iso-8859-1 (yahoo email is 
 ...bad...).  End result: The Danish letters 'æøå' and their uppercase 
 equivalents 'ÆØÅ' showed up as question marks (I hope they display OK in 
 this mail!)
 
 Since iso8859 is a superset of ascii (I think), adding charset-hook 
 US-ASCII iso-8859-1 to my .muttrc solved the problem for me.
 
 Perhaps the same solution will work for you?
 

I have tried some of the charset variables in .muttrc, but nothing.
Some of the mails do declare an encoding (charset=ISO-2022-JP, for
instance, in the folder I am currently playing with), so I guess
playing with assumed_charset will not work here. Anyway, setting
other variables like file_charset has not worked. But maybe I should
be playing with gnome-terminal settings simultaneously, and see if
there is some combination of things that works... I don't know.
Anyway, I'll keep experimenting. 

Victor


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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-11 Thread Victor Munoz
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:22:26AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
 In .muttrc you might try:
 
 set send_charset=us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-2022-jp:utf-8
 
 You can add more.
 

I understand this is for outgoing emails, but I don't intend to write
emails in Japanese, just displaying them when receiving. Anyway, I
haven't tried all combinations of charset variables in .muttrc.
Maybe some will work. Thanks for the tip. This has been a particularly
annoying problem to solve.

Victor


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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-10 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:06:34PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:44 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
  On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
   You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this.
 
 I would be very surprised if this was an actual bug in gnome-terminal.
 
  All this is very strange of course, as I had this working in sarge,
  and I recently tried successfully in Ubuntu, and I never needed
  anything else but some fonts, locales, and the usual
  mutt/jed/gnome-terminal. But if there's any other suggestion as to how
  to make this work in *any* terminal I would be more than grateful :-)
 
 I would suggest you separate the two issues, Mutt and Jed, and try to
 get each one to work. 
 
 Isolate a sample mail, or mbox and see what encoding is used, if it has
 an encoding set in the mail, if it matches and so on. A lot of mail is
 badly mangled, when I used Mutt I had to play around with charset and
 assumed_charset to get some non-usascii characters to show up.

You may be onto something. I had a similar (but smaller) problem with a 
Danish-speaking yahoo mailing list: A lot of the emails said they had 
US-ASCII encoding, but they *really* were iso-8859-1 (yahoo email is 
...bad...).  End result: The Danish letters 'æøå' and their uppercase 
equivalents 'ÆØÅ' showed up as question marks (I hope they display OK in 
this mail!)

Since iso8859 is a superset of ascii (I think), adding charset-hook 
US-ASCII iso-8859-1 to my .muttrc solved the problem for me.

Perhaps the same solution will work for you?

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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Daniel Palmer

Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 09:38 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
  

Hello. I had this working in sarge, but somehow things have changed in
etch, and I can't see Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal. Currently I
have installed packages like cjk-latex, hbf-kanji48, ttf-kochi-mincho,
among the japanese-related packages I can remember. In gnome-terminal,
going to Terminal-Set Character Encoding-Japanese (EUC-JP) does not
work. I have also tried with the current locale (ISO-8859-1), Unicode
(UTF-8) and Japanese (SHIFT-JIS). I have generated the locale
ja_JP.EUC-JP.  I also tried adding xfonts-intl-japanese, but it didn't
work. 


Sure I'm missing something, but I don't know. Any ideas?



What LANG or LC_CTYPE are you running it with? You generally need to 
start applications with either EUC-JP or UTF (The variant of UTF 
shouldn't matter, I have Japanese input/display with a British UTF8 
locale). Run locale in a terminal and see what happens.


btw; There are some decent Japanese fonts in Debian now too.. ones that 
don't make your eyes bleed. I forget the name of them but you should be 
able to find them with apt-cache. ^^



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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Victor Munoz
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:34:38PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
 
 From the description you gave above, it sounds like you should have
 everything needed to at least display Japanese, so what exactly goes
 wrong? Can you for example copy text from the Japanese Wikipedia to
 gnome-terminal?

Well, your question made me investigate a bit more, and I discovered
that I am indeed able to see Japanese text... sometimes at least.

I copied text from Japanese Wikipedia, and it is copied correctly into
gnome-terminal. I can 'cat' emails in Japanese and I see them. I
alternate between locales ISO-8859-1 and EUC-JP, without problem. What I
*cannot* do is read these emails in mutt/jed (I use jed as the editor
for mutt).  I see things like:

^[$B3'MM$+$i$NB??t$N%;%C%7%g%sDs0F$r$*BT$A$$$?$7$F$*$j$^$9!#^[(J

Reading the email as a usual file with jed also fails. I would say the
problem is jed. Except that when I read the folder list with mutt
subjects also come out wrong; or when I simply read the mail, and I
understand jed is not involved here. 

So any ideas on how to fix mutt/jed? My problem seems to be
specifically to read mails in Japanese with mutt. I could change the
editor to xemacs, but 1) I'd prefer to stay with jed because it's
faster; 2) problems with reading mail and subject list would not be
solved by changing the editor.

Regards,

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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Victor Munoz
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:00:30AM +0200, Daniel Palmer wrote:
 What LANG or LC_CTYPE are you running it with? You generally need to 
 start applications with either EUC-JP or UTF (The variant of UTF 
 shouldn't matter, I have Japanese input/display with a British UTF8 
 locale). Run locale in a terminal and see what happens.

I have nothing of this set except LANG=en_US. However, my problem is
not running the application with Japanese menus or input capabilities
(I can run abiword/gedit/iceweasel in Japanese, with input
capabilities and all), only displaying Japanese text in the terminal.
As I said in other mail in this thread, my problem seems to be
specific to mutt and jed, and possibly other applications. The same
LANG environment and Terminal Character encoding that lets me 'cat' a
Japanese email and see it correctly in gnome-terminal, does not allow
me to read that email in mutt or edit it in jed.

Regards,

Victor


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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:56 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
 On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 04:34:38PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
  
  From the description you gave above, it sounds like you should have
  everything needed to at least display Japanese, so what exactly goes
  wrong? Can you for example copy text from the Japanese Wikipedia to
  gnome-terminal?
 
 Well, your question made me investigate a bit more, and I discovered
 that I am indeed able to see Japanese text... sometimes at least.
 
 I copied text from Japanese Wikipedia, and it is copied correctly into
 gnome-terminal. I can 'cat' emails in Japanese and I see them. I
 alternate between locales ISO-8859-1 and EUC-JP, without problem. What I
 *cannot* do is read these emails in mutt/jed (I use jed as the editor
 for mutt).  I see things like:
 
 ^[$B3'MM$+$i$NB??t$N%;%C%7%g%sDs0F$r$*BT$A$$$?$7$F$*$j$^$9!#^[(J
 
 Reading the email as a usual file with jed also fails. I would say the
 problem is jed. Except that when I read the folder list with mutt
 subjects also come out wrong; or when I simply read the mail, and I
 understand jed is not involved here. 
 
 So any ideas on how to fix mutt/jed? My problem seems to be
 specifically to read mails in Japanese with mutt. I could change the
 editor to xemacs, but 1) I'd prefer to stay with jed because it's
 faster; 2) problems with reading mail and subject list would not be
 solved by changing the editor.

You might want to change to an rxvt that does unicode or kxvt. It
appears that mutt/jed are having a tough time picking up the right
encoding from gnome-terminal. Some old hacks (from 2004) on the
jed-users mailing list show this for jed, fixing russian input and
reading issues. 

Sheesh: 
http://www.tlug.jp/craigoda/writings/linux-nihongo/node42.html

Long time for this problem to persist. Looks like a kanji enabled rxvt
is the ticket.

You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this.
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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Victor Munoz
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
 You might want to change to an rxvt that does unicode or kxvt. It
 appears that mutt/jed are having a tough time picking up the right
 encoding from gnome-terminal. Some old hacks (from 2004) on the
 jed-users mailing list show this for jed, fixing russian input and
 reading issues. 
 
 Sheesh: 
 http://www.tlug.jp/craigoda/writings/linux-nihongo/node42.html
 
 Long time for this problem to persist. Looks like a kanji enabled rxvt
 is the ticket.
 
 You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this.

Thanks for the tips, but I have been unable to make it work. I
installed rxvt-ml, rxvt-unicode-ml, mrxvt-cjk, kterm, and nothing. All
of them are able to show correctlty 'cat'-ted files, for instance, but
none of them works with mutt+Japanese mails. At least in kterm I found
a way to make a pop-up menu appear, so I could change the encoding,
but still no luck. I noticed, in the link you gave, that this guy not
only calls a kanji enabled terminal, but a kanji enabled mutt, which I
could not find in Debian. Calling mrxvt -km eucj/sjis doesn't help
either. 

All this is very strange of course, as I had this working in sarge,
and I recently tried successfully in Ubuntu, and I never needed
anything else but some fonts, locales, and the usual
mutt/jed/gnome-terminal. But if there's any other suggestion as to how
to make this work in *any* terminal I would be more than grateful :-)

Regards,

Victor


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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:44:26PM -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
  You might want to change to an rxvt that does unicode or kxvt. It
  appears that mutt/jed are having a tough time picking up the right
  encoding from gnome-terminal. Some old hacks (from 2004) on the
  jed-users mailing list show this for jed, fixing russian input and
  reading issues. 
  
  Sheesh: 
  http://www.tlug.jp/craigoda/writings/linux-nihongo/node42.html
  
  Long time for this problem to persist. Looks like a kanji enabled rxvt
  is the ticket.
  
  You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this.
 
 Thanks for the tips, but I have been unable to make it work. I
 installed rxvt-ml, rxvt-unicode-ml, mrxvt-cjk, kterm, and nothing. All
 of them are able to show correctlty 'cat'-ted files, for instance, but
 none of them works with mutt+Japanese mails. At least in kterm I found
 a way to make a pop-up menu appear, so I could change the encoding,
 but still no luck. I noticed, in the link you gave, that this guy not
 only calls a kanji enabled terminal, but a kanji enabled mutt, which I
 could not find in Debian. Calling mrxvt -km eucj/sjis doesn't help
 either. 
 
 All this is very strange of course, as I had this working in sarge,
 and I recently tried successfully in Ubuntu, and I never needed
 anything else but some fonts, locales, and the usual
 mutt/jed/gnome-terminal. But if there's any other suggestion as to how
 to make this work in *any* terminal I would be more than grateful :-)

shot in the dark. 

there are some 'charset' related items in man muttrc. 

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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:44 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
  You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this.

I would be very surprised if this was an actual bug in gnome-terminal.

 All this is very strange of course, as I had this working in sarge,
 and I recently tried successfully in Ubuntu, and I never needed
 anything else but some fonts, locales, and the usual
 mutt/jed/gnome-terminal. But if there's any other suggestion as to how
 to make this work in *any* terminal I would be more than grateful :-)

I would suggest you separate the two issues, Mutt and Jed, and try to
get each one to work. 

Isolate a sample mail, or mbox and see what encoding is used, if it has
an encoding set in the mail, if it matches and so on. A lot of mail is
badly mangled, when I used Mutt I had to play around with charset and
assumed_charset to get some non-usascii characters to show up.

Similar for jed, see if you can view, edit and write Japanese in normal
UTF-8 files before you set it up for Mutt and those mails.

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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-09 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 13:44 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:42:47PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
  You might want to change to an rxvt that does unicode or kxvt. It
  appears that mutt/jed are having a tough time picking up the right
  encoding from gnome-terminal. Some old hacks (from 2004) on the
  jed-users mailing list show this for jed, fixing russian input and
  reading issues. 
  
  Sheesh: 
  http://www.tlug.jp/craigoda/writings/linux-nihongo/node42.html
  
  Long time for this problem to persist. Looks like a kanji enabled rxvt
  is the ticket.
  
  You might also want to submit a bug against gnome-terminal for this.
 
 Thanks for the tips, but I have been unable to make it work. I
 installed rxvt-ml, rxvt-unicode-ml, mrxvt-cjk, kterm, and nothing. All
 of them are able to show correctlty 'cat'-ted files, for instance, but
 none of them works with mutt+Japanese mails. At least in kterm I found
 a way to make a pop-up menu appear, so I could change the encoding,
 but still no luck. I noticed, in the link you gave, that this guy not
 only calls a kanji enabled terminal, but a kanji enabled mutt, which I
 could not find in Debian. Calling mrxvt -km eucj/sjis doesn't help
 either. 
 
 All this is very strange of course, as I had this working in sarge,
 and I recently tried successfully in Ubuntu, and I never needed
 anything else but some fonts, locales, and the usual
 mutt/jed/gnome-terminal. But if there's any other suggestion as to how
 to make this work in *any* terminal I would be more than grateful :-)

In .muttrc you might try:

set send_charset=us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-2022-jp:utf-8

You can add more.

Let us know.
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Re: Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal

2007-05-08 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 09:38 -0400, Victor Munoz wrote:
 Hello. I had this working in sarge, but somehow things have changed in
 etch, and I can't see Japanese fonts in gnome-terminal. Currently I
 have installed packages like cjk-latex, hbf-kanji48, ttf-kochi-mincho,
 among the japanese-related packages I can remember. In gnome-terminal,
 going to Terminal-Set Character Encoding-Japanese (EUC-JP) does not
 work. I have also tried with the current locale (ISO-8859-1), Unicode
 (UTF-8) and Japanese (SHIFT-JIS). I have generated the locale
 ja_JP.EUC-JP.  I also tried adding xfonts-intl-japanese, but it didn't
 work. 
 
 Sure I'm missing something, but I don't know. Any ideas?

Hi,

For viewing files in Japanese, or typing Japanese, all you should need
is the appropriate fonts and the correct character encoding. In most
cases, UTF-8 will do fine. 

If you want to run apps, or even gnome-terminal, with a Japanese locale,
only then do you need to generate a Japanese locale and set it up to be
used, eg. LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 gedit.

From the description you gave above, it sounds like you should have
everything needed to at least display Japanese, so what exactly goes
wrong? Can you for example copy text from the Japanese Wikipedia to
gnome-terminal?

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Re: Japanese fonts

2004-09-26 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:12:06 -0400, David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm working on a web page for my the karate dojo that I train at, and
 would like to type japanese characters in different fonts. I've
 downloaded and installed a bunch of different japanese TT fonts, but
 everything I type using the japanese input method uses only a plain
 Arial-ish kind of font. Does anyone know how to setup/select fonts for
 non-roman characters?
 
 I'm using uim-anthy as my input method. The application I am attempting
 to do this in is gimp 2.0.
 
 Any help/hints would be greatly appreciated.
 

You said any hints, so i should try to open gnome-character-map (or
equivalent utility) and do a copypaste to the gimp text editor (i've
tried here and even if a little tedious, works)...


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Re: Japanese fonts

2004-09-26 Thread David Clymer
On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 13:04, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:12:06 -0400, David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm working on a web page for my the karate dojo that I train at, and
  would like to type japanese characters in different fonts. I've
  downloaded and installed a bunch of different japanese TT fonts, but
  everything I type using the japanese input method uses only a plain
  Arial-ish kind of font. Does anyone know how to setup/select fonts for
  non-roman characters?
  
  I'm using uim-anthy as my input method. The application I am attempting
  to do this in is gimp 2.0.
  
  Any help/hints would be greatly appreciated.
  
 
 You said any hints, so i should try to open gnome-character-map (or
 equivalent utility) and do a copypaste to the gimp text editor (i've
 tried here and even if a little tedious, works)...

Yeah, that is a bit tedious. I was doing an even more tedious version of
that: looking up the kanji in an online english - japanese kanji
dictionary, copy paste. You'd think I would have thought of the gnome
charmap thing myself.

The problem, it seems is that the fonts I installed didnt have glyphs
for the characters I was trying to use, or they werent mapped to the
right unicode characters but to the normal latin character set instead,
replacing the normal a,b,c,etc with japanese characters.

I've found a few fonts with the necessary glyphs now and everything is
working.

thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: Japanese fonts in X

2001-10-30 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 08:52:43PM -0500, dman wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 01:56:27PM +0200, J?rg Johannes wrote:
 | I have installed a potato box for a friend. She would like to use japanese 
 | fonts in GNOME, so I have installed the xfonts-intl-japanese
 | and xfonts-intl-japanese-big packages, selected japanese on gdm login, 
 but 
 | all I get is useless crap-symbols (???...).
 | I have also generated the japanese locales. What else do I have to do to 
 get 
 | japanese symols?
 
 For one thing, be sure that hte directory with those fonts is in your
 FontPath.  (See the FontPath lines in /etc/X11/XF86Config)

There is task-japanese in potato.

$ apt-cache show task-japanese |less

for some more details and idea.

Or go ask ML for Japanese on debian server.  They are English ML.

I never done these.  Shame for me as Japanese :-)

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Re: Japanese fonts in X

2001-10-29 Thread dman
On Sat, Oct 27, 2001 at 01:56:27PM +0200, Jörg Johannes wrote:
| Hello List
| 
| I have installed a potato box for a friend. She would like to use japanese 
| fonts in GNOME, so I have installed the xfonts-intl-japanese
| and xfonts-intl-japanese-big packages, selected japanese on gdm login, but 
| all I get is useless crap-symbols (þþæßþþµµ¢ß?...).
| I have also generated the japanese locales. What else do I have to do to get 
| japanese symols?

For one thing, be sure that hte directory with those fonts is in your
FontPath.  (See the FontPath lines in /etc/X11/XF86Config)

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Re: Japanese fonts

2001-03-22 Thread Forrest English
i would also like to know how to do this, my girlfriend is learning
japanese, and has not been able to get it to work in windows (which
doesn't surprise me).  come on, make linux look good ;)

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Dean Posey wrote:

 Hello,
 I have a computer at home that myself and my wife use, I would like to set it 
 up for her to be able to log in and
 email/surf using Japanese fonts. I know it's possible, but I was looking for 
 suggestions from someone using a 
 similiar setup. In the past I've used the jamondo program for Win, and I was 
 looking into dual booting with the
 Japanese Win98. Since her use will be limited this seems like overkill, I'm 
 sure there must be a better solution 
 in linux.
 
 Any help would be appreciated,
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Re: Japanese fonts

2001-03-22 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Forrest English wrote:
 i would also like to know how to do this, my girlfriend is learning
 japanese, and has not been able to get it to work in windows (which

Install japanese font packages, the X-TT truetype font server (built-in in X
4.0.x, but make sure to enable the right one), and Mozilla. Setup mozilla to
use whatever japanese fonts you have in your system.

You'll probably need also the japanese locales, a kana input method and a
few other niceties (and do remember to enable the japanese locale in the
shells you'll be working in japanese!).  Installing task-japanese might help
you there.

I don't use any kana input methods, but I had no trouble whatsoever to get
mozilla to render japanese web pages.  Emacs also works fine for inputing
japanese text, as long as you install the correct emacs package for the
input method you need.

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Re: Japanese fonts

2001-03-22 Thread Forrest English
how would i switch the locales for one user?  because i'm not to keen on
the idea of running my entire system in a lanugage that i don't even
understand.

i can however reach for ctl+d when she's logged.

thanks

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You will have nothing left to use
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Henrique M Holschuh wrote:

 On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Forrest English wrote:
  i would also like to know how to do this, my girlfriend is learning
  japanese, and has not been able to get it to work in windows (which
 
 Install japanese font packages, the X-TT truetype font server (built-in in X
 4.0.x, but make sure to enable the right one), and Mozilla. Setup mozilla to
 use whatever japanese fonts you have in your system.
 
 You'll probably need also the japanese locales, a kana input method and a
 few other niceties (and do remember to enable the japanese locale in the
 shells you'll be working in japanese!).  Installing task-japanese might help
 you there.
 
 I don't use any kana input methods, but I had no trouble whatsoever to get
 mozilla to render japanese web pages.  Emacs also works fine for inputing
 japanese text, as long as you install the correct emacs package for the
 input method you need.
 
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   them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
   where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
   Henrique Holschuh
 



Re: Japanese fonts

2001-03-22 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Forrest English wrote:

 how would i switch the locales for one user?  because i'm not to keen on

It is session-based. Just set the environment variable LANG to the locale
you want.  I do hope you remembered to activate the locales you might need
when installing libc6 (/etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen).

If you are not 'click driven' and can use a xterm, just set LANG there and
run the applications from that shell.

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  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh



Re: Japanese fonts

2001-03-22 Thread John Galt

You ever hear of kdrill?  It's in games: a kanji drill and dictionary...

On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Forrest English wrote:

i would also like to know how to do this, my girlfriend is learning
japanese, and has not been able to get it to work in windows (which
doesn't surprise me).  come on, make linux look good ;)

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When we have nothing left to give
There will be no reason for us to live
But when we have nothing left to lose
You will have nothing left to use
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Dean Posey wrote:

 Hello,
 I have a computer at home that myself and my wife use, I would like to set 
 it up for her to be able to log in and
 email/surf using Japanese fonts. I know it's possible, but I was looking for 
 suggestions from someone using a
 similiar setup. In the past I've used the jamondo program for Win, and I was 
 looking into dual booting with the
 Japanese Win98. Since her use will be limited this seems like overkill, I'm 
 sure there must be a better solution
 in linux.

 Any help would be appreciated,
 Dean Posey


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