Re: KDE being removed?
Am 2006-08-31 13:38:22, schrieb Hal Vaughan: On Thursday 31 August 2006 08:36, Michelle Konzack wrote: Then some hours later you come back and see you have Vista running... =8-O That's not funny. Actually, it makes me want to cry... Yes, but it IS possibel to create a package, which use parted, create a windows partition and install a windows network-version. You can install Windows over the net in a light version which copy only the minimal files or a full installation but it requires the Enterprise version of Windows XP/2003 or the old Win NT 4.0. We have already done this just for fun and it works. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
Am 2006-08-28 11:53:54, schrieb Kent West: It's been my experience than when running unstable, packages get b0rken and things like this sometimes happen. As a general rule, if I'm paying attention, I can stop the upgrade and try again in a day or two and things go well. If I'm not paying attention and I remove something, usually just a simple install again restores things, since removal doesn't remove config files. Imagine, you have NO CD/DVD and need to do an upgrade over the Net on a slow link likt 256/512 kBit... You start the apt-get --assume-yes dist-upgrade and go out of house. Then some hours later you come back and see you have Vista running... =8-O Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
On Thursday 31 August 2006 08:36, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-08-28 11:53:54, schrieb Kent West: It's been my experience than when running unstable, packages get b0rken and things like this sometimes happen. As a general rule, if I'm paying attention, I can stop the upgrade and try again in a day or two and things go well. If I'm not paying attention and I remove something, usually just a simple install again restores things, since removal doesn't remove config files. Imagine, you have NO CD/DVD and need to do an upgrade over the Net on a slow link likt 256/512 kBit... You start the apt-get --assume-yes dist-upgrade and go out of house. Then some hours later you come back and see you have Vista running... =8-O That's not funny. Actually, it makes me want to cry... Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is common sense really valid? For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that common sense is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE8xUPS9HxQb37XmcRAi+5AJ94XKhw3a0nYckXhl9FPA+C0otLAgCfbPlf fsYxUaMyQ0NVd7w4uRW/ofI= =ptJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is common sense really valid? For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that common sense is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE8xUPS9HxQb37XmcRAi+5AJ94XKhw3a0nYckXhl9FPA+C0otLAgCfbPlf fsYxUaMyQ0NVd7w4uRW/ofI= =ptJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Using apt-get -- Arthur H. Edwards Senior Research Physicist Air Force Research Laboratory AFRL/VSSE Bldg. 914 3550 Aberdeen Ave. SE KAFB, NM 87117-5776 (505) 853-6042 (O) (505) 463-6722 (C) (505) 846-2290 (F) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're better off for a lighter system. Which release were you upgrading from and to? When using apt-get, it's generally better to do -u dist-upgrade so that you can see what's going on, from my days of using it. Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're better off for a lighter system. Which release were you upgrading from and to? When using apt-get, it's generally better to do -u dist-upgrade so that you can see what's going on, from my days of using it. Regards, I do use kde. I was just wondering whether this package has been subsumed by another. I'm running etch, and was just doing a routine upgrade. -- Arthur H. Edwards Senior Research Physicist Air Force Research Laboratory AFRL/VSSE Bldg. 914 3550 Aberdeen Ave. SE KAFB, NM 87117-5776 (505) 853-6042 (O) (505) 463-6722 (C) (505) 846-2290 (F) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
edwardsa wrote: Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're better off for a lighter system. Which release were you upgrading from and to? When using apt-get, it's generally better to do -u dist-upgrade so that you can see what's going on, from my days of using it. Regards, I do use kde. I was just wondering whether this package has been subsumed by another. I'm running etch, and was just doing a routine upgrade. It's been my experience than when running unstable, packages get b0rken and things like this sometimes happen. As a general rule, if I'm paying attention, I can stop the upgrade and try again in a day or two and things go well. If I'm not paying attention and I remove something, usually just a simple install again restores things, since removal doesn't remove config files. I believe kde is a virtual package anyway, removal of it shouldn't hurt you any. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:58:49 -0600, edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? The kde package is just a meta-package: It does not really contain anything, but its dependencies make sure that a complete KDE system is pulled in if you run apt-get install kde. (It depends on kde-core, kdeadmin, kdeaddons, etc.) I think your apt figured out that sacrificing the meta package would allow it to perform a partial upgrade to KDE 3.5.4. kde should be installable again as soon as the mirror that you are using has the complete set of KDE 3.5.4 packages. For now you don't have to worry about it, but it is worthwhile to install the meta-package again in a few days so that you will automatically follow possible future changes in the packaging of KDE on Debian. -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
edwardsa wrote: Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're better off for a lighter system. Which release were you upgrading from and to? When using apt-get, it's generally better to do -u dist-upgrade so that you can see what's going on, from my days of using it. Regards, I do use kde. I was just wondering whether this package has been subsumed by another. I'm running etch, and was just doing a routine upgrade. Probably it's about to be upgraded. One of the packages on which it depends has been upgraded and released early. If you were to install that package, another package on which KDE depends would not be compatible with it, so apt wants to remove it, and KDE with it. You'll need to ask for each one of the list to be upgraded, and not to do the one(s) which want to remove KDE. You may want to try Synaptic, a graphical front end to apt. It makes this game a lot quicker (unless you're a demon touch-typist, and I'm not) and this is much more important with Sid. I'm regularly asked if I'm happy to remove KDE, Gnome, X etc. and need to find which of perhaps fifty packages is the bad guy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE being removed?
Kent West wrote: edwardsa wrote: Katipo wrote: edwardsa wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: edwardsa wrote: I was doing an dist-upgrade and kde was being removed. Should I be concerned? Using aptitude? Using apt-get If you use KDE, it's a definite concern. If you don't, you're better off for a lighter system. Which release were you upgrading from and to? When using apt-get, it's generally better to do -u dist-upgrade so that you can see what's going on, from my days of using it. Regards, I do use kde. I was just wondering whether this package has been subsumed by another. I'm running etch, and was just doing a routine upgrade. It's been my experience than when running unstable, packages get b0rken and things like this sometimes happen. As a general rule, if I'm paying attention, I can stop the upgrade and try again in a day or two and things go well. If I'm not paying attention and I remove something, usually just a simple install again restores things, since removal doesn't remove config files. I believe kde is a virtual package anyway, removal of it shouldn't hurt you any. The fact that it's a meta didn't occur to me - and should have. I thought you were referring to the entire KDE ensemble. Almost definitely the case. Don't worry about it - just go ahead (You keep back-ups?). But from memory, I only ever used a 'dist-upgrade' command when I was moving from a 'testing' release to an 'unstable' one, for example. The rest of the time it was simply a sequence of the two commands 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'. Others would probably be in a position to advise better. Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
