Re: Linux TV tuner
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:20:53 +0300, Andrei wrote in message 20120412102053.GF4455@sid.nuvreauspam: On Jo, 12 apr 12, 10:29:33, Paul Lewis wrote: On 12/04/12 10:22:41, Lisi wrote: Why broadcast? Which leads me to ask the question. Is putting stuff on an internet server and inviting people to view it, broadcasting? The internet is (still) a free(dom) medium, you are entitled to distribute stuff within the ToS agreed with your ISP and your local laws. And if you do that in addition to broadcasting, are you entitled to charge a licence fee to those people who just use a PC for the web and don't own a conventional TV to access your previously broadcast material? You may charge whatever you want for stuff you distribute assuming you have the legal right to do so (e.g. you own the copyright). Kind regards, Andrei ..and I understand the civilized countries has legislation protecting the competition among copyright owners to encourage cheap publishment of content for the benefit of the tax paying consumer and voter? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120412221754.4bafb...@nb6.lan
Re: Linux TV tuner
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:49:04 +0100, Dom wrote in message 4f852960.5040...@rpdom.net: On 11/04/12 07:09, Alan Chandler wrote: On 10/04/12 22:24, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? I think so. But I also believe that you can get round it by watching iPlayer etc. over the internet. IANL of course! Unfortunately you can't. You still need a TV licence to watch via iPlayer. It says so on the BBC web site. It is true that you need a TV licence to watch programmes that are currently being broadcast (as the programmes are being broadcast, simulcast or otherwise made available by the BBC on television). However, programmes that were are not being broadcast at the time may be watched, in the UK only, without a TV licence, for as long as they are available on iplayer. The BBC would like to close this loophole. ..what happens if e.g. Sian creates her own TV broadcasts, e.g. by putting a camera and a TV transmitter aboard a R/C model aircraft, FPV style, but specifically to show common TV watchers her own version of e.g. life in the communities around Mount Battenberg? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120411184845.733ee...@nb6.lan
Re: Linux TV tuner
On Wednesday 11 April 2012 17:48:45 Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..what happens if e.g. Sian creates her own TV broadcasts, e.g. by putting a camera and a TV transmitter aboard a R/C model aircraft, FPV style, but specifically to show common TV watchers her own version of e.g. life in the communities around Mount Battenberg? If she hasn't got a TV she doesn't need a TV licence, if she has she does. But she would almost certainly need a licence to broadcast. The airwaves are jealously guarded. What would be wrong, from her point of view, with Youtube, or her own website? Why broadcast? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204121022.41425.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Linux TV tuner
On 12/04/12 10:22:41, Lisi wrote: Why broadcast? Which leads me to ask the question. Is putting stuff on an internet server and inviting people to view it, broadcasting? And if you do that in addition to broadcasting, are you entitled to charge a licence fee to those people who just use a PC for the web and don't own a conventional TV to access your previously broadcast material? My feeling is, No and No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1334222973.4173.1@kingston
Re: Linux TV tuner
On Jo, 12 apr 12, 10:29:33, Paul Lewis wrote: On 12/04/12 10:22:41, Lisi wrote: Why broadcast? Which leads me to ask the question. Is putting stuff on an internet server and inviting people to view it, broadcasting? The internet is (still) a free(dom) medium, you are entitled to distribute stuff within the ToS agreed with your ISP and your local laws. And if you do that in addition to broadcasting, are you entitled to charge a licence fee to those people who just use a PC for the web and don't own a conventional TV to access your previously broadcast material? You may charge whatever you want for stuff you distribute assuming you have the legal right to do so (e.g. you own the copyright). Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Linux TV tuner
On 10/04/12 22:24, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? I think so. But I also believe that you can get round it by watching iPlayer etc. over the internet. IANL of course! Unfortunately you can't. You still need a TV licence to watch via iPlayer. It says so on the BBC web site. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f852016.4070...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: Linux TV tuner
On 11/04/12 07:09, Alan Chandler wrote: On 10/04/12 22:24, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? I think so. But I also believe that you can get round it by watching iPlayer etc. over the internet. IANL of course! Unfortunately you can't. You still need a TV licence to watch via iPlayer. It says so on the BBC web site. It is true that you need a TV licence to watch programmes that are currently being broadcast (as the programmes are being broadcast, simulcast or otherwise made available by the BBC on television). However, programmes that were are not being broadcast at the time may be watched, in the UK only, without a TV licence, for as long as they are available on iplayer. The BBC would like to close this loophole. -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f852960.5040...@rpdom.net
Re: Linux TV tuner
On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012, Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? It dependsa. The tuner does not need a licence, the premises does. So if there is already a TV there you are fine, but if this is the only TV then yes, you do need a licence. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204110957.10919.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Linux TV tuner
On 11/04/12 10:20, David Goodenough wrote: On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012, Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? It dependsa. The tuner does not need a licence, the premises does. So if there is already a TV there you are fine, but if this is the only TV then yes, you do need a licence. David Thanx. I've now paid for a colour licence. So I'm covered. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jm3m7m$j88$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Linux TV tuner
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? I think so. But I also believe that you can get round it by watching iPlayer etc. over the internet. IANL of course! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204102224.20408.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Linux TV tuner
On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? Sian See: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/understanding-your- tv-licence-top3/ Steven. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204102225.09332.ste...@springl.ukfsn.org
Re: Linux TV tuner
On 10/04/12 22:30, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? I think so. But I also believe that you can get round it by watching iPlayer etc. over the internet. IANL of course! Lisi Thanks. I've checked with the TV Licencing authority and it appears that I have to have a licence. So here goes... -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jm2ar0$lfv$2...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Linux TV tuner
On 10/04/12 22:40, Steven Jan Springl wrote: On Tuesday 10 Apr 2012 21:50:44 Sian Mountbatten wrote: I have decided to get a USB TV tuner so that I can use it with my sid(uction) box. I am in the UK. Will I need a TV licence? Sian See: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/understanding-your- tv-licence-top3/ Steven. Yes, well, that's clear enough. If I want to watch TV as it's being broadcast or record TV from a broadcast, I need a TV licence. It's a long time since I had a TV - been an avid Debian GNU/Linux user, but no TV. Oh well. I shall now join the vast majority! TVM for your help. -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f84ae48.2000...@fastmail.co.uk
