Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On 2010-04-30 10:05:42 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > >http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg > >Does that look right to you? I think the problem you are having is "un-themed GTK". You don't have a desktop suite, so maybe you're like me and you like to keep your system lean and mean. If so, it could be that you don't have any GTK themes installed. A simple, lightweight GTK theme will drastically improve the appearance of Iceweasel. The default GTK theme is called Raleigh and it's not very good, the fonts are too big, and so on. I lived without a theme for a while until I got so sick of how ugly my GTK apps were. Then I went searching for themes and everything's better. You can even get themes that are light and have good performance. If you are interested in getting some simple GTK themes: aptitude install gtk2-engines Hope this helps, Phil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505073523.ga5...@kasploosh.net
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
deloptes wrote: James Stuckey wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg Does that look right to you? Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste... Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger". Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in doesn't change anything. Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you. I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the xorg.conf file and put there. Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the monitor displays. I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is not distorted, is not small... :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón Okay, I'll figure out how to set DPI and assume that whatever problem I see with the onscreen fonts here is due to the monitor. Thanks! no, monitor doesn't have to do anything with it you have to distinguish things - that's it I'm suffering the same issue here, but did configure most of the things. For you however with this funny windows manager it would be really to set DPI globally. If you change DPI in the firefox properties it is applied only to the text, but not to the window itself. That's why it looks like much bigger then the menu area. I leave the firefox DPI setting to system and set the DPI in the window manager/server. Right, I set DPI in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf: ... command=/usr/bin/X1 :0 -layout X1 -dpi 110 -isolateDevice PCI:1:0:0 vt7 ... command=/usr/bin/X0 :1 -layout X0 -dpi 110 -isolateDevice PCI:0:8:0 vt51 ... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hrf69j$u5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
James Stuckey wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> >> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg >> >> > >> >> > Does that look right to you? >> >> >> >> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste... >> >> >> >> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead >> >> 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger". >> >> >> > Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in >> > doesn't change anything. >> >> Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you. >> I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the >> xorg.conf file and put there. >> >> > Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the >> > monitor displays. >> >> I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is >> not distorted, is not small... :-) >> >> Greetings, >> >> -- >> Camaleón >> >> >> > Okay, I'll figure out how to set DPI and assume that whatever problem I > see with the onscreen fonts here is due to the monitor. > > Thanks! no, monitor doesn't have to do anything with it you have to distinguish things - that's it I'm suffering the same issue here, but did configure most of the things. For you however with this funny windows manager it would be really to set DPI globally. If you change DPI in the firefox properties it is applied only to the text, but not to the window itself. That's why it looks like much bigger then the menu area. I leave the firefox DPI setting to system and set the DPI in the window manager/server. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hreer3$ud...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg > >> > > >> > Does that look right to you? > >> > >> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste... > >> > >> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead > >> 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger". > >> > > Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in > > doesn't change anything. > > Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you. > I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the > xorg.conf file and put there. > > > Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the > > monitor displays. > > I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is > not distorted, is not small... :-) > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > Okay, I'll figure out how to set DPI and assume that whatever problem I see with the onscreen fonts here is due to the monitor. Thanks!
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg >> > >> > Does that look right to you? >> >> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste... >> >> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead >> 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger". >> > Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in > doesn't change anything. Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you. I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the xorg.conf file and put there. > Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the > monitor displays. I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is not distorted, is not small... :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.30.09.10...@gmail.com
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:05:42 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > > >> Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get? > >> > >> > > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg > > > > Does that look right to you? > > Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste... > > Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead 96dpi > set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger". > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.30.08.15...@gmail.com > > Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in doesn't change anything. Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the monitor displays.
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:05:42 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: >> Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get? >> >> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg > > Does that look right to you? Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste... Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger". Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.30.08.15...@gmail.com
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
> Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get? > > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg Does that look right to you?
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:20:36 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> Option "DPI" "96 x 96" >> >> Under your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "Monitor" section? >> >> (make a backup copy of the original file before making any change) >> >> I can't tell if that made a change or not. In either case, the fonts >> still > look like garbage/aren't easy to read. > I should note, the fonts in what > I'm typing right now (gmail) aren't bad -- it's the fonts on the menu > bar in iceweasel/icedove/whatever program. Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.21.05...@gmail.com
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:06:08 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> You could try running: > >> > >> xrandr --dpi 96 > >> > >> Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can > >> also change it from there. > >> > > xrandr --dpi 96 or --dpi [any other value] doesn't change anything. I > > don't see anything in nvidia-settings about DPI. > > Mmmm... how about specifying: > > Option "DPI" "96 x 96" > > Under your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "Monitor" section? > > (make a backup copy of the original file before making any change) > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > I can't tell if that made a change or not. In either case, the fonts still look like garbage/aren't easy to read. I should note, the fonts in what I'm typing right now (gmail) aren't bad -- it's the fonts on the menu bar in iceweasel/icedove/whatever program.
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:06:08 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> You could try running: >> >> xrandr --dpi 96 >> >> Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can >> also change it from there. >> > xrandr --dpi 96 or --dpi [any other value] doesn't change anything. I > don't see anything in nvidia-settings about DPI. Mmmm... how about specifying: Option "DPI" "96 x 96" Under your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "Monitor" section? (make a backup copy of the original file before making any change) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.20.15...@gmail.com
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:46:31 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > > >> > I don't use gnome or KDE. > >> > >> And what DE (if any) are you using? :-) > >> > > I'm using wmii > > Uh... and how does one change DPI settings in that :-)? > > You could try running: > > xrandr --dpi 96 > > Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can > also change it from there. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > xrandr --dpi 96 or --dpi [any other value] doesn't change anything. I don't see anything in nvidia-settings about DPI.
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:46:31 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: >> > I don't use gnome or KDE. >> >> And what DE (if any) are you using? :-) >> > I'm using wmii Uh... and how does one change DPI settings in that :-)? You could try running: xrandr --dpi 96 Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can also change it from there. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.20.03...@gmail.com
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:40:46 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever > >> value you feel more confortable with. > > > I don't use gnome or KDE. > > And what DE (if any) are you using? :-) > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.19.45...@gmail.com > > I'm using wmii
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:40:46 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever >> value you feel more confortable with. > I don't use gnome or KDE. And what DE (if any) are you using? :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.19.45...@gmail.com
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:59 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: > > (...) > > > I don't recall how the config file was made. The resolution I want is > > 1920x1080. Restarting X gave me this resolution. Now my fonts on screen > > (like on the menu bar in iceweasel/icedove, for example) aren't too easy > > to read. They just don't look right. How do I fix that? > > That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever > value you feel more confortable with. > > DPI value can be modified in GNOME under "fonts settings / details" and > in KDE there should be a similar way under its control center / fonts. > > A value of "96 dpi" should render fonts just fine. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.19.39...@gmail.com > > I don't use gnome or KDE.
Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:59 +0200, James Stuckey wrote: (...) > I don't recall how the config file was made. The resolution I want is > 1920x1080. Restarting X gave me this resolution. Now my fonts on screen > (like on the menu bar in iceweasel/icedove, for example) aren't too easy > to read. They just don't look right. How do I fix that? That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever value you feel more confortable with. DPI value can be modified in GNOME under "fonts settings / details" and in KDE there should be a similar way under its control center / fonts. A value of "96 dpi" should render fonts just fine. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.04.29.19.39...@gmail.com
