Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On Sat 04 Nov 2017 at 23:39:40 (+), Roger Lynn wrote: > On 29/10/17 23:50, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:45:34 PM Roger Lynn wrote: > >> So does nobody here use KDE? > > > > Just to not leave that questions unanswered, I use KDE, and I suspect many > > others do, but: > > > >(1) My everyday machine is still using Wheezy, and > >(2) I haven't ever had occasion to use switch user from the desktop (I > > do > > use su at the command line)--but I can see where it might be useful to have > > something like an anonymous "account" to surf the web (I mean, one > > different > > than your everyday userid, email address, etc.) > > I presume it's mainly useful when you have several users of a computer. I'm > struggling to imagine why you would need it if you were the only user. This system currently has 40 system users (UID < 1000) so that the subsystems can't poke around in places where they have no business. Similarly, when I surf the web, I see no reason to allow the browser to have access to my own account. And when I have to read HTML emails, I use a text browser that can't see links outside localhost. Perhaps take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege Cheers, David.
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On 29/10/17 23:50, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:45:34 PM Roger Lynn wrote: >> So does nobody here use KDE? > > Just to not leave that questions unanswered, I use KDE, and I suspect many > others do, but: > >(1) My everyday machine is still using Wheezy, and >(2) I haven't ever had occasion to use switch user from the desktop (I do > use su at the command line)--but I can see where it might be useful to have > something like an anonymous "account" to surf the web (I mean, one different > than your everyday userid, email address, etc.) I presume it's mainly useful when you have several users of a computer. I'm struggling to imagine why you would need it if you were the only user. Roger
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On 11/4/17, Roger Lynn wrote: > On 29/10/17 20:00, Doug wrote: >> >> On 10/29/2017 02:44 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >>> KDE on Stretch here. >>> But sorry can't help. My KDE-leave dialog still has "switch user" on >>> Stretch. >>> I used testing until shortly before the release of Stretch. I changed >>> "testing" to "stretch" in the souces.list to stay with Stable for a >>> while. >>> That way I didn't do a real update. >>> But I remember that I had to revert to another theme at some time during >>> my >>> use of testing, because SDDM lost some functionality on the way. Maybe >>> you >>> like to check that out too. > >> KDE 5 (Plasma) on PCLinuxOS: Application Menu > Power / Session > Switch >> User > > Either PCLinuxOS or that version of KDE have a different menu structure, > because that's quite different to what I have. > > I think I will risk upgrading my wife's laptop and see what happens... I so needed... a good laugh. That did it Is there a package that you could try reinstalling to see if it puts something back in place? I use "apt-get install --reinstall" for accomplishing that task.. One caveat I've discovered is that it only specifically reinstalls any given singularly named package. Any dependencies aren't touched in that reinstall. That would be one reason why reinstalling doesn't always fix things. It might be about the dependencies being the ultimate cause of some problem or anther at hand.. I figured out a fairly easy work-around recently regarding additionally reinstalling dependencies with minimal brain strain finding them, but unfortunately just this second I can't remember what that work-around was... Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape *
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On 29/10/17 20:00, Doug wrote: > > On 10/29/2017 02:44 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: >> KDE on Stretch here. >> But sorry can't help. My KDE-leave dialog still has "switch user" on Stretch. >> I used testing until shortly before the release of Stretch. I changed >> "testing" to "stretch" in the souces.list to stay with Stable for a while. >> That way I didn't do a real update. >> But I remember that I had to revert to another theme at some time during my >> use of testing, because SDDM lost some functionality on the way. Maybe you >> like to check that out too. > KDE 5 (Plasma) on PCLinuxOS: Application Menu > Power / Session > Switch > User Either PCLinuxOS or that version of KDE have a different menu structure, because that's quite different to what I have. I think I will risk upgrading my wife's laptop and see what happens... Roger
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On 29/10/17 19:50, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > KDE on Stretch here. > But sorry can't help. My KDE-leave dialog still has "switch user" on Stretch. > I used testing until shortly before the release of Stretch. I changed > "testing" to "stretch" in the souces.list to stay with Stable for a while. > That way I didn't do a real update. > But I remember that I had to revert to another theme at some time during my > use of testing, because SDDM lost some functionality on the way. Maybe you > like to check that out too. > > here -> > Look and Feel: Breeze > Desktop theme: Air > Splash screen: Oxygen > > Login Screen (SDDM): Breeze Thank you for confirming that the command is supposed to be there and therefore there must be something wrong with my configuration. Unfortunately changing the theme doesn't seem to make any difference. Roger
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:45:34 PM Roger Lynn wrote: > So does nobody here use KDE? Just to not leave that questions unanswered, I use KDE, and I suspect many others do, but: (1) My everyday machine is still using Wheezy, and (2) I haven't ever had occasion to use switch user from the desktop (I do use su at the command line)--but I can see where it might be useful to have something like an anonymous "account" to surf the web (I mean, one different than your everyday userid, email address, etc.) > Or do those of you that use KDE not have > "Switch user" commands and not mind? Or does does it all work perfectly for > you? Should I switch to a different display manager and screen locker, or > do I need a completely different desktop environment?
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On 10/29/2017 02:44 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:45:34 PM -03 Roger Lynn wrote: On 19/10/17 00:43, Roger Lynn wrote: Hi, When I upgraded to Stretch I lost the "Switch user" command from the Leave section of the KDE launcher menu, from the KDE lock screen and from the SDDM login screen. This should give the choice of activating an existing session or starting a new one. Without it, it is difficult to tell if I am already logged in, so I am in danger of creating duplicate sessions. The login screen used to have a menu with "Cancel Session", "Remote Login" and "Console Login" commands too. These have also disappeared. So does nobody here use KDE? Or do those of you that use KDE not have "Switch user" commands and not mind? Or does does it all work perfectly for you? Should I switch to a different display manager and screen locker, or do I need a completely different desktop environment? Roger KDE on Stretch here. But sorry can't help. My KDE-leave dialog still has "switch user" on Stretch. I used testing until shortly before the release of Stretch. I changed "testing" to "stretch" in the souces.list to stay with Stable for a while. That way I didn't do a real update. But I remember that I had to revert to another theme at some time during my use of testing, because SDDM lost some functionality on the way. Maybe you like to check that out too. KDE 5 (Plasma) on PCLinuxOS: Application Menu > Power / Session > Switch User --doug here -> Look and Feel: Breeze Desktop theme: Air Splash screen: Oxygen Login Screen (SDDM): Breeze
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 4:45:34 PM -03 Roger Lynn wrote: > On 19/10/17 00:43, Roger Lynn wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When I upgraded to Stretch I lost the "Switch user" command from the Leave > > section of the KDE launcher menu, from the KDE lock screen and from the > > SDDM login screen. This should give the choice of activating an existing > > session or starting a new one. Without it, it is difficult to tell if I > > am already logged in, so I am in danger of creating duplicate sessions. > > > > The login screen used to have a menu with "Cancel Session", "Remote Login" > > and "Console Login" commands too. These have also disappeared. > > So does nobody here use KDE? Or do those of you that use KDE not have > "Switch user" commands and not mind? Or does does it all work perfectly for > you? Should I switch to a different display manager and screen locker, or do > I need a completely different desktop environment? > > Roger KDE on Stretch here. But sorry can't help. My KDE-leave dialog still has "switch user" on Stretch. I used testing until shortly before the release of Stretch. I changed "testing" to "stretch" in the souces.list to stay with Stable for a while. That way I didn't do a real update. But I remember that I had to revert to another theme at some time during my use of testing, because SDDM lost some functionality on the way. Maybe you like to check that out too. here -> Look and Feel: Breeze Desktop theme: Air Splash screen: Oxygen Login Screen (SDDM): Breeze -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Re: Missing KDE "Switch user" command in Stretch
On 19/10/17 00:43, Roger Lynn wrote: > Hi, > > When I upgraded to Stretch I lost the "Switch user" command from the Leave > section of the KDE launcher menu, from the KDE lock screen and from the SDDM > login screen. This should give the choice of activating an existing session > or starting a new one. Without it, it is difficult to tell if I am already > logged in, so I am in danger of creating duplicate sessions. > > The login screen used to have a menu with "Cancel Session", "Remote Login" > and "Console Login" commands too. These have also disappeared. So does nobody here use KDE? Or do those of you that use KDE not have "Switch user" commands and not mind? Or does does it all work perfectly for you? Should I switch to a different display manager and screen locker, or do I need a completely different desktop environment? Roger
