Re: Modem detection and installation problems
On 1. December 2003 at 5:22AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:15:16 -0800, > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:17:41PM -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: > > > I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PCI Bus 1, device 4, function > > > 0) on an Intel Pentium 4 that the debian configuration > > > software never did detect. I went on to try and configure > > > PPP as best I could... > > > > Is it a winmodem? Winmodems aren't actually modems, just > > glorified sound cards. You can try to finagle it to work, > > but it's not easy. http://www.linmodems.org/ > > > > Just get an external serial modem. Those Just Work in any OS > > without any difficulty, period. > > ...and before getting an USB modem, make sure it is > _NOT!_ another damn usb-wired WINmodem. BTDT. ;-) For those who have legacy-free(tm) mobos without serial ports: I have a serial modem connected via a USB serial converter. It's been working nearly flawlessly under kernel 2.4.23 (the usbserial driver(s) for 2.4.22 has a bug). It connects as /dev/ttyUSB0. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:22:28AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > Just get an external serial modem. Those Just Work in any OS without > > any difficulty, period. > > ...and before getting an USB modem, make sure it is > _NOT!_ another damn usb-wired WINmodem. BTDT. ;-) Well, that's why I said a serial modem and not a USB modem (yeah, yeah, they're both technically serial devices, but most people use "serial port" to refer to the old 9 or 25 pin jobs) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/yspwUzgNqloQMwcRAhUcAJ97LCr6PmszF3k6Jlj2ge7pTb5ObgCgrESs khtQkK6YrjKZUop52ubqzVg= =WS6P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:15:16 -0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:17:41PM -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: > > I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PCI Bus 1, device 4, function 0) on an > > Intel Pentium 4 that the debian configuration software never did > > detect. I went on to try and configure PPP as best I could... > > Is it a winmodem? Winmodems aren't actually modems, just glorified > sound cards. You can try to finagle it to work, but it's not easy. > http://www.linmodems.org/ > > Just get an external serial modem. Those Just Work in any OS without > any difficulty, period. ...and before getting an USB modem, make sure it is _NOT!_ another damn usb-wired WINmodem. BTDT. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:17:41PM -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: > I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PCI Bus 1, device 4, function 0) on an Intel > Pentium 4 that the debian configuration software never did detect. I went > on to try and configure PPP as best I could... Is it a winmodem? Winmodems aren't actually modems, just glorified sound cards. You can try to finagle it to work, but it's not easy. http://www.linmodems.org/ Just get an external serial modem. Those Just Work in any OS without any difficulty, period. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ypYkUzgNqloQMwcRAoipAKDlIV7eK9O72iV/MHWGLuEkxM853ACgu6i6 f+COzVtwu7ZZH/kzeQKLQIk= =hqVc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:54:38 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I second that. Even at a higher price where I live, I consider the money > well spent on my US Robotics external modem. It is immediately found all > the time. > The hassle of getting winmodems to work just ain't worth it. > Just like the other win stuff. You know, win-printers, win-dows :> -- paul "The average lifespan of a Web page today is 100 days. This is no way to run a culture." Internet Archive Board Chairman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
Paul Morgan wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:17:41 -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: This is not meant as a smartass answer, but, as "real" modems are relatively cheap, I would respectfully suggest that you consider getting one instead of using CPU cycles running a winmodem. I second that. Even at a higher price where I live, I consider the money well spent on my US Robotics external modem. It is immediately found all the time. The hassle of getting winmodems to work just ain't worth it. Hugo. You want to look for a "controller-based" modem, as opposed to a "controllerless" or "windows" modem. The ones which have "especially made for Windows XP" or something similar on the box are "controllerless" modems. IMO, that label ought to be a big red one with "WARNING - CHEAP AND NASTY" on the top. For example, you can get a US Robotics Performance Pro V.92 PCI controller-based faxmodem via pricewatch.com for only $49 inclusive. (It's the modem I use which is why I looked it up in particular). Then, if your current modem is removable, you can take it out and give it to someone you don't like :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:17:41 -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PCI Bus 1, device 4, function 0) on an Intel > Pentium 4 that the debian configuration software never did detect. I went > on to try and configure PPP as best I could... > > When I try to use 'pon' I get messages about looking for ethernet cards > instead of any dialilng. I believe the OS just has no idea that there is a > modem installed. I have not found anything in the Debian manuals about all > this; most of the advice seems to be for machines attached to networks. > > A wider search of of the web got me lots of inapplicable advice (references > to hand-editing configuration files that are not in /etc/ mostly). Where do > I go for information on this? > > Thank You, > > Eric Dickner This is not meant as a smartass answer, but, as "real" modems are relatively cheap, I would respectfully suggest that you consider getting one instead of using CPU cycles running a winmodem. You want to look for a "controller-based" modem, as opposed to a "controllerless" or "windows" modem. The ones which have "especially made for Windows XP" or something similar on the box are "controllerless" modems. IMO, that label ought to be a big red one with "WARNING - CHEAP AND NASTY" on the top. For example, you can get a US Robotics Performance Pro V.92 PCI controller-based faxmodem via pricewatch.com for only $49 inclusive. (It's the modem I use which is why I looked it up in particular). Then, if your current modem is removable, you can take it out and give it to someone you don't like :) -- paul "The average lifespan of a Web page today is 100 days. This is no way to run a culture." Internet Archive Board Chairman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
Eric Dickner wrote: Hello All, I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PCI Bus 1, device 4, function 0) on an Intel Pentium 4 that the debian configuration software never did detect. I went on to try and configure PPP as best I could... When I try to use 'pon' I get messages about looking for ethernet cards instead of any dialilng. I believe the OS just has no idea that there is a modem installed. I have not found anything in the Debian manuals about all this; most of the advice seems to be for machines attached to networks. A wider search of of the web got me lots of inapplicable advice (references to hand-editing configuration files that are not in /etc/ mostly). Where do I go for information on this? Thank You, Eric Dickner http://www.linmodems.org/ Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
