Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
On Sunday 17 August 2014 00:49:16 Floris wrote: > >> > > What wine packages do you have installed? > >> > > >> > wine > >> > wine64 > >> > wine32:i386 > >> > >> Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had > >> around > >> would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked. > > > > Just to be sure you have a clean environment, you might want to try > > creating a new user and try it as that user. Otherwise, I don't know > > what the problem is. > > > > I'm running an up to date Jessie, by the way. > > I doesn't know if your problem is already solved, or if you are still > struggling. If you still have a problem, please tell us which version > of Debian and wine you use. Because when you install both architectures > (wine64-development:amd64 and wine32-development:i368) on a 64-bit > Debian sid version. Wine will always run a 32 bit prefix. I had to change > the wine-development script in /usr/bin/ to run a 64-bit Windows > executable. > > floris Those -development packages are new/different than previous (-unstable). Installed both of them. Will not run anything. Finally!! figured out to run wine-development instead of wine or wine64 or any of those. Might just symlink and be done, huh? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5199694.G2E3dprNNE@dovidhalevi
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
> > What wine packages do you have installed? > > wine > wine64 > wine32:i386 Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had around would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked. Just to be sure you have a clean environment, you might want to try creating a new user and try it as that user. Otherwise, I don't know what the problem is. I'm running an up to date Jessie, by the way. I doesn't know if your problem is already solved, or if you are still struggling. If you still have a problem, please tell us which version of Debian and wine you use. Because when you install both architectures (wine64-development:amd64 and wine32-development:i368) on a 64-bit Debian sid version. Wine will always run a 32 bit prefix. I had to change the wine-development script in /usr/bin/ to run a 64-bit Windows executable. floris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/op.xkpi0ezo5k9...@jessica.jkfloris.demon.nl
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
- Original Message - > From: "David Baron" > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:36:51 Rob Owens wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "David Baron" > > > > > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > From: "David Baron" > > > > > > > > > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly > > > > > old. > > > > > Seems to be no way to run them. > > > > > > > > > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of > > > > > all > > > > > this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 > > > > > will > > > > > not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged everything for > > > > > latest > > > > > try). > > > > > > > > This is complaining about ~/.wine being a 64bit installation, at least > > > > that's what it did for me. I moved my existing ~/.wine to ~/.wine.bak > > > > and > > > > was able to run 'wine Firefox\ Setup\ 31.0.exe' successfully. > > > > > > What wine packages do you have installed? > > > > wine > > wine64 > > wine32:i386 > > Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had around > would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked. > Just to be sure you have a clean environment, you might want to try creating a new user and try it as that user. Otherwise, I don't know what the problem is. I'm running an up to date Jessie, by the way. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/302860793.44622303.1408030338940.javamail.zim...@ptd.net
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:36:51 Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - > > > From: "David Baron" > > > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > From: "David Baron" > > > > > > > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly > > > > old. > > > > Seems to be no way to run them. > > > > > > > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of > > > > all > > > > this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 > > > > will > > > > not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged everything for > > > > latest > > > > try). > > > > > > This is complaining about ~/.wine being a 64bit installation, at least > > > that's what it did for me. I moved my existing ~/.wine to ~/.wine.bak > > > and > > > was able to run 'wine Firefox\ Setup\ 31.0.exe' successfully. > > > > What wine packages do you have installed? > > wine > wine64 > wine32:i386 Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had around would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2948096.n9f7slMRgW@dovidhalevi
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
- Original Message - > From: "David Baron" > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "David Baron" > > > > > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. > > > Seems to be no way to run them. > > > > > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of all > > > this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 will > > > not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged everything for latest > > > try). > > This is complaining about ~/.wine being a 64bit installation, at least > > that's what it did for me. I moved my existing ~/.wine to ~/.wine.bak and > > was able to run 'wine Firefox\ Setup\ 31.0.exe' successfully. > > What wine packages do you have installed? > wine wine64 wine32:i386 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/601023465.41722321.1407854211440.javamail.zim...@ptd.net
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - > > > From: "David Baron" > > > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. > > Seems to be no way to run them. > > > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of all > > this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 will > > not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged everything for latest > > try). > This is complaining about ~/.wine being a 64bit installation, at least > that's what it did for me. I moved my existing ~/.wine to ~/.wine.bak and > was able to run 'wine Firefox\ Setup\ 31.0.exe' successfully. What wine packages do you have installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5236467.WBGMLJi6Fn@dovidhalevi
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
- Original Message - > From: "David Baron" > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. Seems > to be no way to run them. > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of all this > complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 will not work. > Even if there is no such folder (I purged everything for latest try). > This is complaining about ~/.wine being a 64bit installation, at least that's what it did for me. I moved my existing ~/.wine to ~/.wine.bak and was able to run 'wine Firefox\ Setup\ 31.0.exe' successfully. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/656123965.41683216.1407852658249.javamail.zim...@ptd.net
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
On Monday 11 August 2014 08:36:23 The Wanderer wrote: > On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote: > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly > > old. Seems to be no way to run them. > > > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of > > all this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to > > wine32 will not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged > > everything for latest try). > > > > There is apparently no win32:amd64 so the wine32:i386 and a load of > > > > :i386 libs will get installed. Multiarch is great but does not solve > > > > this particular problem. > > I don't have much experience with standalone 64-bit Wine, but my > solution for 32-bit vs. 64-bit Wine is to build a combined version from > upstream (git) source - largely because AFAIK Debian does not provide > any way to get a combined-build Wine installed. > > Unfortunately, while, this used to be relatively straightforward in > squeeze when we still had an ia32-libs-dev package, it's currently > broken - and is likely to remain that way until multiarch extends to > -dev packages, which at this point probably isn't expected to be > completed (or even necessarily begun) for jessie. > > > My "install a newer version of Wine" procedure is currently as follows: > > 1. Update the Wine source. > > 2. In a separate directory (wine64), run the following commands: > $(winesrc)/configure --enable-win64 > make $(make_options) > > 3. In a separate directory (wine32), run the following command: > $(winesrc)/configure --with-wine64=$(wine64dir) > > 4. Make note of the errors or "this feature has been disabled" reports > from the configure run, check the configure log files, identify what > -dev package(s) need to be installed in order to fix the problem, and > install the :i386 versions of those packages. (This automatically > removes the :amd64 versions of the same-dev packages.) > > 5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until the configure run is successful and all > the features I want are detected and enabled. > > 6. Run the following commands: > make $(make_options) > su -c 'make install' > > 7. Back in the wine64 directory, run the following command: > su -c 'make install' > > 8. Reinstall all the packages (or at least the -dev packages) which got > removed in step 4. > > > Steps 4, 5 and 8 are highly manual and irritating, such that instead of > updating Wine monthly, weekly or even daily, I generally update it maybe > once every three to six months at best. (Building a patched version for > testing purposes is pretty much off the table entirely.) However, this > is still the best approach I've found for getting a version of Wine that > can handle both 32-bit and 64-bit applications in the same install. > > -- >The Wanderer While I have compiled wine before, this is quite a bite! How about a .deb, maybe on winehq? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2393286.0gfn2yqKQD@dovidhalevi
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
On 08/11/2014 03:27 AM, David Baron wrote: I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. Seems to be no way to run them. Wine64 complains about the .exe format. What about installing a hypervisor under amd64, creating a Wheezy i386 VM, and running Wine on the VM? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53e98a7b.9020...@holgerdanske.com
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
On 8/11/14, The Wanderer wrote: > On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote: >> I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly >> old. Seems to be no way to run them. >> >> Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of >> all this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to >> wine32 will not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged >> everything for latest try). >> >> There is apparently no win32:amd64 so the wine32:i386 and a load of >> :i386 libs will get installed. Multiarch is great but does not solve >> this particular problem. > > I don't have much experience with standalone 64-bit Wine, but my > solution for 32-bit vs. 64-bit Wine is to build a combined version from > upstream (git) source - largely because AFAIK Debian does not provide > any way to get a combined-build Wine installed. ... > Steps 4, 5 and 8 are highly manual and irritating, such that instead of > updating Wine monthly, weekly or even daily, I generally update it maybe > once every three to six months at best. (Building a patched version for > testing purposes is pretty much off the table entirely.) However, this > is still the best approach I've found for getting a version of Wine that > can handle both 32-bit and 64-bit applications in the same install. Is that filed as a bug? Might be the only hope for a better situation in Jessie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSRGAZif288Rx8Kr8taqi_hx=0rd=trxypmn8otwbdd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote: > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly > old. Seems to be no way to run them. > > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of > all this complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to > wine32 will not work. Even if there is no such folder (I purged > everything for latest try). > > There is apparently no win32:amd64 so the wine32:i386 and a load of > :i386 libs will get installed. Multiarch is great but does not solve > this particular problem. I don't have much experience with standalone 64-bit Wine, but my solution for 32-bit vs. 64-bit Wine is to build a combined version from upstream (git) source - largely because AFAIK Debian does not provide any way to get a combined-build Wine installed. Unfortunately, while, this used to be relatively straightforward in squeeze when we still had an ia32-libs-dev package, it's currently broken - and is likely to remain that way until multiarch extends to - -dev packages, which at this point probably isn't expected to be completed (or even necessarily begun) for jessie. My "install a newer version of Wine" procedure is currently as follows: 1. Update the Wine source. 2. In a separate directory (wine64), run the following commands: $(winesrc)/configure --enable-win64 make $(make_options) 3. In a separate directory (wine32), run the following command: $(winesrc)/configure --with-wine64=$(wine64dir) 4. Make note of the errors or "this feature has been disabled" reports from the configure run, check the configure log files, identify what - -dev package(s) need to be installed in order to fix the problem, and install the :i386 versions of those packages. (This automatically removes the :amd64 versions of the same-dev packages.) 5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until the configure run is successful and all the features I want are detected and enabled. 6. Run the following commands: make $(make_options) su -c 'make install' 7. Back in the wine64 directory, run the following command: su -c 'make install' 8. Reinstall all the packages (or at least the -dev packages) which got removed in step 4. Steps 4, 5 and 8 are highly manual and irritating, such that instead of updating Wine monthly, weekly or even daily, I generally update it maybe once every three to six months at best. (Building a patched version for testing purposes is pretty much off the table entirely.) However, this is still the best approach I've found for getting a version of Wine that can handle both 32-bit and 64-bit applications in the same install. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT6LjHAAoJEASpNY00KDJrbFUQAKdnJTI8ebFQHMzdNLodcYqK 2svqseIxnQ2PGRVGwQ7OgKtor/E/OVU7tF0sx7lB1o/kBX/OmUqaAn9jr2JlC2P9 vg373XMqOff6Gk4ZqS3hbUmozxcIYLQ/J7V2FsBzyaFtUzR/OwBPkDy5MOLe23Iz VIDj1l0gXAnUz8USQAjkHcm/Z/mhNEVjnKldKLHWKtBLNSdEHc+QagQCvVrTJwh5 FHjgMaDY9XuRIQagM7e0F7iw8Q1XqmjU5xF6gbr7B2RWen9gioCwcRWp/xkY1xd0 YWCyHrNT2PicysEz3Hcry2WBBClMZxx8pU3BX60ppgC6zwEIK3XhFLRlw+1Zzieb xZycFEeBvlV7zeytTqckgCZVfB5ixMZqGfud9Acbvaco1X4WiyQaMeNb/Zh+I7bB GmETsl6inL7Tq/afTykZQTQTcJakD4m423s5bnTs7x3g9AKL3Le0VCX7INex0WlE UIIiHYVIXJGbKELkS7wfR8+/FNKQS6Ic+/uNSgzCHWGhE+RxztcmfB5NclJ/ts5u /7sOLaJaGyUQHPGlykhEDCq22We729HOJt8daQad5tIDDB/Iqj8JuPY+SiC72C4N DxcH8Mgy6kuFuFLHPcOSml0oQvtr+0JsMwNUHZxOKPN0KxPvIfmr9eg1Ox7eoeB4 yh1NKVfVz6vQ9wQv2k4h =iP8P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53e8b8c7.1000...@fastmail.fm
