Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-15 Thread John W. Foster
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 11:56 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: 
 Dear List -
 
 I updated and now have the new Gnome.
 
 The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.
 
 I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.
 
 How do I get the old desktop back?
 
 Ethan
 
 

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I was able to get all my old style stuff back by installing nautilus and
all its add ons



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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - irc

2013-07-11 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
Michael Ayers mgay...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Dear List -
 
 
 I would like to try another modality to try to solve this mystery.
 
 How do I get to and use irc #debian-mate channel  on FreeNode?
 
 I have never used irc befpre.
 
 TIA
 
 Ethan
 
 
 I'm not really an irc-guy, but this is what I know
 
 you, of course need a irc client I've used xchat before and it seems  ok.

Actually, you don't even need to install a client - there's a web client ;)

http://webchat.freenode.net/

Celejar


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread James Allsopp
You can't. You have to install a different DE. I went for XFCE, but people
rate Mate. This is a sore point for a lot of people, but that's the simple
options.

let the flamewar commence


On 10 July 2013 16:56, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com
 wrote:

 Dear List -

 I updated and now have the new Gnome.

 The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.

 I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.

 How do I get the old desktop back?

 Ethan


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread John Tate
You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing main menu
and you will surely find it.

Extensions make it pretty damn good. It takes some getting used to.

You can go classic with gdm (the login screen), just select a user and
there is a little dropdown in the bottom left. It is a limited classic
though, and kind of sucks.

Personally I found that once I got used to it the benefits outweighed
what I lost. There was a new way to do everything I might have thought
couldn't be done.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:
 Dear List -

 I updated and now have the new Gnome.

 The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.

 I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.

 How do I get the old desktop back?

 Ethan


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote:
 You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing main menu
 and you will surely find it.
 
 Extensions make it pretty damn good. It takes some getting used to.
 
 You can go classic with gdm (the login screen), just select a user and
 there is a little dropdown in the bottom left. It is a limited classic
 though, and kind of sucks.
 
 Personally I found that once I got used to it the benefits outweighed
 what I lost. There was a new way to do everything I might have thought
 couldn't be done.
 
 
 On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
 erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:
 Dear List -

 I updated and now have the new Gnome.

 The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.

 I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.

 How do I get the old desktop back?

 Ethan


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote:

You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing main menu
and you will surely find it.

Extensions make it pretty damn good. It takes some getting used to.

You can go classic with gdm (the login screen), just select a user and
there is a little dropdown in the bottom left. It is a limited classic
though, and kind of sucks.

Personally I found that once I got used to it the benefits outweighed
what I lost. There was a new way to do everything I might have thought
couldn't be done.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:

Dear List -

I updated and now have the new Gnome.

The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.

I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.

How do I get the old desktop back?

Ethan


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Thanks.

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

Tried it.

Problems with apt-get, as per system.

What is plan b?

Ethan


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - more info

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote:

You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing main menu
and you will surely find it.

Extensions make it pretty damn good. It takes some getting used to.

You can go classic with gdm (the login screen), just select a user and
there is a little dropdown in the bottom left. It is a limited classic
though, and kind of sucks.

Personally I found that once I got used to it the benefits outweighed
what I lost. There was a new way to do everything I might have thought
couldn't be done.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:

Dear List -

I updated and now have the new Gnome.

The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.

I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.

How do I get the old desktop back?

Ethan


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Klearchos-Angelos

Thanks.

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

Tried it.

Problems with apt-get, as per system.

What is plan b?

Ethan

=

Dear All -

Here are the apt-get errors:

root@meow:/home/ethan/Downloads# nano /etc/apt/sources.list
root@meow:/home/ethan/Downloads# apt-get install mate-archive-keyrin
Reading package lists... Error!
E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
E: Problem with MergeList
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.deban.org_debian_dists_wheezy-updates_contrib_i18n_Translation-en
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

TIA

Ethan





Ethan


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - more info

2013-07-10 Thread André Nunes Batista
Kind of a typo on the name of mate deb package, no?!

Someone shall say shutthafuckup sometime, but I'm very happy using slim
+ openbox + tint2 + i3lock. Not that I hated gnome 3 at first, but after
a while of using it, I couldn't help but feel desperate with its huge
memory consumption and its unclear relationship with unix
philosophy/background.

To migrating windows users, I usually install xfce and pick some apps
from gnome.

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Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote:

You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing main menu
and you will surely find it.

Extensions make it pretty damn good. It takes some getting used to.

You can go classic with gdm (the login screen), just select a user and
there is a little dropdown in the bottom left. It is a limited classic
though, and kind of sucks.

Personally I found that once I got used to it the benefits outweighed
what I lost. There was a new way to do everything I might have thought
couldn't be done.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:

Dear List -

I updated and now have the new Gnome.

The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable.

I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome.

How do I get the old desktop back?

Ethan


--
Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
===

Klearchos-Angelos

Thanks.

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

Tried it.

Problems with apt-get, as per system.

What is plan b?

Ethan

=

Dear All -

Here are the apt-get errors:

root@meow:/home/ethan/Downloads# nano /etc/apt/sources.list
root@meow:/home/ethan/Downloads# apt-get install mate-archive-keyrin
Reading package lists... Error!
E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
E: Problem with MergeList
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.deban.org_debian_dists_wheezy-updates_contrib_i18n_Translation-en
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

TIA

Ethan





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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - irc

2013-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 19:23 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
 Dear List -
 
 I would like to try another modality to try to solve this mystery.
 
 How do I get to and use irc #debian-mate channel  on FreeNode?
 
 I have never used irc befpre.
 
 TIA
 
 Ethan


Ethan, Ethan *chuckle*

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=irc+linux

Results in

Second link:
XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program
http://xchat.org/

Fifth link:
How to use the IRC - Linux Mint Community
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12

The fifth link is interesting regarding to

Using pastebin to show text to other users and Using imagebin to show
images.

###

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+irc

Results in

First link:
IRC - Debian Wiki
http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/

- To connect, you need an IRC client
http://wiki.debian.org/IrcClients .

- More information can be found on GettingHelpOnIrc
http://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc .

###

Do you have a concrete question? E.g. how to start?

http://xchat.org/docs/xchat-4.html

Hth,
Ralf


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Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - irc

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Ayers
Dear List -


I would like to try another modality to try to solve this mystery.

How do I get to and use irc #debian-mate channel  on FreeNode?

I have never used irc befpre.

TIA

Ethan


I'm not really an irc-guy, but this is what I know

you, of course need a irc client I've used xchat before and it seems  ok.
* after you get that installed... 

* when you first start up it shows you a network list of servers.
* find freenode on the list and hit connect button
* after a few seconds it will ask if you want to join a channel, 

   there you type in #debian-mate.
* you should be onboard then.
if you've never used irc before, you might want to google and read a little
bit on IRC Etiqutte before you jump completly in 
Good Luck!
mike