Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)
I'M NOT MEMER OF YOUR MAILING LISTS. MY MAIL IS : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] IS ONLY FORWARD FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]). WHY THIS MAILS COME TO ME? EVERY DAY COME TO ME 200 MAILS FROM YOUR MAILING LISTS. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING WITH IT? THANK YOU. - Original Message - From: "Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Oleg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Debian Users" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose) > Oleg escreveu: > > > > What do you get from UML, that you don't get from class definitions (in > > header files) ? > > UML has a much bigger scope, since it tries to account for all the design > phase, including data modelling. > > Unfortunately it's a fundamentally flawed approach, as shown in > http://dbdebunk.com./cjd4a.htm. > > > -- > _ > / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 216 15 93 > \ / http://homepage.mac.com./leandrod/fax +41 (21) 216 19 04 > X http://tutoriald.sf.net./ Orange Communications CH > / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML email +41 (21) 216 15 93 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)
Oleg escreveu: What do you get from UML, that you don't get from class definitions (in header files) ? UML has a much bigger scope, since it tries to account for all the design phase, including data modelling. Unfortunately it's a fundamentally flawed approach, as shown in http://dbdebunk.com./cjd4a.htm. -- _ / \ Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra+41 (21) 216 15 93 \ / http://homepage.mac.com./leandrod/fax +41 (21) 216 19 04 X http://tutoriald.sf.net./ Orange Communications CH / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign against HTML email +41 (21) 216 15 93 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: UML (Re: UML Modeling w/o Rational Rose)
On 2002-06-03 14:22 +, Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 June 2002 02:01 pm, Tommi Komulainen wrote: > > > On the topic of free UML modeling software, I've tried ArgoUML and > > Poseidon, but unfortunately they aren't quite comparable to Rose. Are > > there some other UML tools I've missed? (No, dia or kuml don't count.) > > What do you get from UML, that you don't get from class definitions (in > header files) ? Visual representation of the classes on suitable abstraction level. Kind of hard to get the big picture in one glimpse from several header files scattered around, don't you thinkg? From a simple UML diagram you can get that (almost) instantly. And that's just the class diagram part of UML. There's much more than just class diagrams in UML. Class diagrams help to understand how classes relate to each other (kind of, who does what) and that's propably the most used part of UML. Then there's sequence diagrams, showing how classes interact with each other (who talks to whom.) I'd argue that's at least as useful as class diagrams. Depends on the case, of course. The bottom line is, though, that UML is just notation. It is meant to help communicate how the software works (well, should work) in unified way. If you both know UML, you don't need to spend time defining terms the other might very easily misinterpret otherwise. Even though you don't need to explain how the stuff works to anyone else, I've found that it's much easier to go down into the details after you've figured out the big pieces first. -- Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG 1024D/68388EE66FD6 DD79 EB38 BF6F 3533 09C0 04A8 9871 6838 8EE6 pgpmFyqJyUh1k.pgp Description: PGP signature
