Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-07 Thread Cam Ellison
Not to worry.  Let me also acknowledge you and the rest of the group for your 
time and effort.  Left-clicking my mouse a few dozen (or whatever) times took a 
lot less effort than you are clearly devoting to this.

Friday wasn't bad, at all, thanks.

I haven't had much time to play with OO yet, but it seems pretty good so far.

Cam


* Chris Halls ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:16:34AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
  There are a lot more errors than that -- any file being copied from types/* 
  to ~/share/cde yields an error.  There is no /types dir in 
  /usr/lib/openoffice, nor is there a /kde dir.  
  
  This is a really boring way to spend a Friday morning.  How much more do I 
  have to look forward to?
 
 Sorry, I don't go through this list every day, so I hope you had a good
 Friday :)
 
 Until this desktop environment stuff is fixed well, you can get a
 working Openoffice.org install like this:
 
 add deb line to sources.list
 root# apt-get install openoffice.org
 
 switch to user you wish to run openoffice as
 user$ rm ~/.sversionrc ; rm -r ~/.openoffice ; openoffice
 
 ignore errors about .kde2 directory
 

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-06 Thread Chris Halls
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 11:16:34AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
 There are a lot more errors than that -- any file being copied from types/* 
 to ~/share/cde yields an error.  There is no /types dir in 
 /usr/lib/openoffice, nor is there a /kde dir.  
 
 This is a really boring way to spend a Friday morning.  How much more do I 
 have to look forward to?

Sorry, I don't go through this list every day, so I hope you had a good
Friday :)

Until this desktop environment stuff is fixed well, you can get a
working Openoffice.org install like this:

add deb line to sources.list
root# apt-get install openoffice.org

switch to user you wish to run openoffice as
user$ rm ~/.sversionrc ; rm -r ~/.openoffice ; openoffice

ignore errors about .kde2 directory

Package 1.0.0-2 fixed the Java problems discussed earlier in this thread.

Many of the problems reported about desktop integration errors are due to
people running a user install manually.  The openoffice script (which is the
only provided in /usr/bin by the package) runs the user install
automatically.

We need to fix these errors by hacking the soffice shell script that
actually starts openoffice, but I want to co-ordinate this with upstream to
make sure the Debian packages do not end up being regarded as a fork that
will not be supported.

Please see /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/TODO.Debian.gz for a list of
currently open issues for the package, together with known workarounds.  I
am the first to admit that these packages are not yet good enough to be
included in the Debian archive.  The majority of the time that we have spent
on this package has been to get it automatically compile and build any .deb
at all.  We have put up the packages for the benefit of users who would like
to install a .deb rather than the OOo installer, but they are not really
much better yet than a standard download and install to /usr/local.  If you
need good quality packages without glitches, please be patient and wait
until we are ready to upload to the Debian archive.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-06 Thread Chris Halls
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 03:58:06AM -0700, ben wrote:
 does anybody out there have a similar solution to enable openoffice in a sid 
 environment?

The java error is fixed in the -2 .deb, sorry for the problems in -1.
It is, again, not necessary to have Java installed to install the .deb.

/me picks up brown paper bag and hides under it again.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Hans Gubitz
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 12:48:34AM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote:
 stan wrote:
  Does anyone know where I can get .debs for Openoffice 1.0?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep office /etc/apt/sources.list 
 deb http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
 deb-src http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
 
 Greetings,
 
 Stefan.



bash-2.05a$ openoffice 
running openoffice setup...
FATAL ERROR: required java version not found!
OpenOffice.org could not be started - /home/gubitz/.openoffice/soffice
is not available
bash-2.05a$ 



Which java version?
Where can I get those .debs ?

Gruß Hans



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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Peter Whysall
on Fri, May 03, 2002, Hans Gubitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 12:48:34AM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote:
  stan wrote:
   Does anyone know where I can get .debs for Openoffice 1.0?
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep office /etc/apt/sources.list 
  deb http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
  deb-src http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
  
  Greetings,
  
  Stefan.
 
 
 
 bash-2.05a$ openoffice 
 running openoffice setup...
 FATAL ERROR: required java version not found!
 OpenOffice.org could not be started - /home/gubitz/.openoffice/soffice
 is not available
 bash-2.05a$ 
 
 
 
 Which java version?
 Where can I get those .debs ?

Do you have any java at all installed?

I've had no problems using the j2re1.3 Blackdown Java package.

I use the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/
woody non-free

(All on one line - pesky line wrapping!)

Hope this helps

Take care,

Peter.
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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Chris Halls
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:18:39AM +0200, Hans Gubitz wrote:
 bash-2.05a$ openoffice 
 running openoffice setup...
 FATAL ERROR: required java version not found!
 OpenOffice.org could not be started - /home/gubitz/.openoffice/soffice
 is not available
 bash-2.05a$ 

Please do the following:

edit /etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf and change
JavaSupport=preinstalled_or_none 
to
JavaSupport=none
then:
rm -r .sversionrc .openoffice
openoffice

This will start the debian package autosetup.

You will see a load of errors about .kde2 file copies, but these can be
ignored for now.

Sorry about these problems.  Now the dependency issues are sorted the next
wave of problems are comming to light.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Is there any sources.list for j2sdk 1.4 or j2re1.4?




On Fri, 3 May 2002 09:17:25 +0100
Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on Fri, May 03, 2002, Hans Gubitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 12:48:34AM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote:
   stan wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get .debs for Openoffice 1.0?
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep office /etc/apt/sources.list 
   deb http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
   deb-src http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
   
   Greetings,
   
   Stefan.
  
  
  
  bash-2.05a$ openoffice 
  running openoffice setup...
  FATAL ERROR: required java version not found!
  OpenOffice.org could not be started - /home/gubitz/.openoffice/soffice
  is not available
  bash-2.05a$ 
  
  
  
  Which java version?
  Where can I get those .debs ?
 
 Do you have any java at all installed?
 
 I've had no problems using the j2re1.3 Blackdown Java package.
 
 I use the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list:
 
 deb
 ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/
 woody non-free
 
 (All on one line - pesky line wrapping!)
 
 Hope this helps
 
 Take care,
 
 Peter.
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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Peter Whysall
on Fri, May 03, 2002, Patrick Hsieh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hello Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
 Is there any sources.list for j2sdk 1.4 or j2re1.4?

I don't know - but I'd like that, myself.

Anyone know?

Take care,

Peter.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread ben
On Friday 03 May 2002 01:17 am, Peter Whysall wrote:
 on Fri, May 03, 2002, Hans Gubitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 12:48:34AM +0200, Stefan Bellon wrote:
   stan wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get .debs for Openoffice 1.0?
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] grep office /etc/apt/sources.list
   deb http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
   deb-src http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main
   contrib
  
   Greetings,
  
   Stefan.
 
  bash-2.05a$ openoffice
  running openoffice setup...
  FATAL ERROR: required java version not found!
  OpenOffice.org could not be started - /home/gubitz/.openoffice/soffice
  is not available
  bash-2.05a$
 
 
 
  Which java version?
  Where can I get those .debs ?

 Do you have any java at all installed?

 I've had no problems using the j2re1.3 Blackdown Java package.

 I use the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list:

 deb
 ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/
 woody non-free


does anybody out there have a similar solution to enable openoffice in a sid 
environment?

ben


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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 03 May 2002 17:32:24 +0800
Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
 Is there any sources.list for j2sdk 1.4 or j2re1.4?

I didn't find a sources.list for it, but I installed the 1.4 j2sdk from
Sun's site.  The only caveat is that I needed to also install
libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 to satisfy it's shared library requirement.  I
dropped the j2sdk into /usr/local with a symlink of /usr/local/jdk to the
version specific folder.  The OpenOffice debian package found everything
on it's own.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Addis Perez
-- Original Message --
Which java version?
Where can I get those .debs ?

There are no *.deb's for the recent versions of Java.  I have yet to install 
OpenOffice, so I do not know which Java version it requires.  Just go to 
java.sun.com and download the latest Linux (for there is no Debian) package and 
set the paths and that should be it.

Addis


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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread ben
On Friday 03 May 2002 04:53 am, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
 On Fri, 03 May 2002 17:32:24 +0800

 Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
  Is there any sources.list for j2sdk 1.4 or j2re1.4?

 I didn't find a sources.list for it, but I installed the 1.4 j2sdk from
 Sun's site.  The only caveat is that I needed to also install
 libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 to satisfy it's shared library requirement.  I
 dropped the j2sdk into /usr/local with a symlink of /usr/local/jdk to the
 version specific folder.  The OpenOffice debian package found everything
 on it's own.

so, is that the only choice, a manual non-deb install? to take the question 
further, is openoffice worth the effort? how does it differ from the last 
iteration of staroffice? having to resort to a java download from sun just 
reeks of submission to the same manner of hegemony that microshit employs. 
whether it's wanker mcneally or wanker gates, in both cases, there's a wanker 
desirous of compliance and submission.

ben


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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Dale Hair
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:04, Addis Perez wrote:
 -- Original Message --
 Which java version?
 Where can I get those .debs ?
 
 There are no *.deb's for the recent versions of Java.  I have yet to install 
 OpenOffice, so I do not know which Java version it requires.  Just go to 
 java.sun.com and download the latest Linux (for there is no Debian) package 
 and set the paths and that should be it.
 
 Addis
 
It works fine with the blackdown version 1.3.1
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian/dists/..


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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Fri, 3 May 2002 07:23:53 -0700
ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so, is that the only choice, a manual non-deb install? 

That would probably depend highly on whether you wanted the latest version
or not.

 to take the
 question further, is openoffice worth the effort? how does it differ
 from the last iteration of staroffice? 

First major difference is the removal of that damned Star Office desktop
that you were forced to run.  Each of the interfaces are now seperate.  As
for whether it's worth it or not, I have it installed simply because I
work with people that still rely on MS Office.  If I didn't have to read
some of their docs from time to time, I wouldn't use it.

 whether it's wanker mcneally or wanker
 gates, in both cases, there's a wanker desirous of compliance and
 submission.

Not worth getting into that discussion.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Cam Ellison
There are a lot more errors than that -- any file being copied from types/* to 
~/share/cde yields an error.  There is no /types dir in /usr/lib/openoffice, 
nor is there a /kde dir.  

This is a really boring way to spend a Friday morning.  How much more do I have 
to look forward to?

Cam


* Chris Halls ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:18:39AM +0200, Hans Gubitz wrote:
  bash-2.05a$ openoffice 
  running openoffice setup...
 snip 
 You will see a load of errors about .kde2 file copies, but these can be
 ignored for now.
 
 Sorry about these problems.  Now the dependency issues are sorted the next
 wave of problems are comming to light.
 

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-03 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 07:23:53AM -0700, ben wrote:
 On Friday 03 May 2002 04:53 am, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
  On Fri, 03 May 2002 17:32:24 +0800
  Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I didn't find a sources.list for it, but I installed the 1.4 j2sdk from
  Sun's site.  The only caveat is that I needed to also install
  libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 to satisfy it's shared library requirement.  I
  dropped the j2sdk into /usr/local with a symlink of /usr/local/jdk to the
  version specific folder.  The OpenOffice debian package found everything
  on it's own.
 
 so, is that the only choice, a manual non-deb install? to take the question 
 further, is openoffice worth the effort? how does it differ from the last 
 iteration of staroffice? having to resort to a java download from sun just 
 reeks of submission to the same manner of hegemony that microshit employs. 
 whether it's wanker mcneally or wanker gates, in both cases, there's a wanker 
 desirous of compliance and submission.

Now I might be missing something here but there are at least two other
choices:

a) as Chris Halls enlighted debian-user earlier today:

edit /etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf and change
JavaSupport=preinstalled_or_none
to
JavaSupport=none
then:
rm -r .sversionrc .openoffice
openoffice

b) install OpenOffice with tarball to /usr/local. That will not
require any additional, manual non-deb install of any java-thingy.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.0 ,debs?

2002-05-02 Thread Stefan Bellon
stan wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can get .debs for Openoffice 1.0?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] grep office /etc/apt/sources.list 
deb http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib
deb-src http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/openoffice unstable main contrib

Greetings,

Stefan.

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