Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --- Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was >> done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and > > This is normal for KDE. No, it isn't. KDE starts up pretty rapidly even on my ancient Dell Inspiron 3000. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBl8OuUzgNqloQMwcRAutqAJ9Cz+W2RARJKiWR3tw0gW6RiGmIzgCgyvxq TS+xHr92h9L6NOH6TnmU6yA= =Yvdo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it > was done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, > and first start of any application (konsole, mozilla) takes a long > time. Sometimes you have to run fc-cache -f as root to reload the font cache after upgrading. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBl8OKUzgNqloQMwcRApdQAJ0eVW5Lx2L6MBratCTbjWYBKuEZ2QCdEG50 U2YYTFho8hhMq2CC40jy3Mk= =lXuJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
Mirek Stefanski wrote: I removed (purged) all desktop (lastly was installed gnome -similiar behavior - but why?) packages and installed kde-core package. Start time about 10-12 minutes. Then I renamed Desktop and all .k* files in my home directory and ... similiar results (next restart after Configuration wizard took about 10 minutes also) Next, as Ken[_t_] suggested, I create a new user and it works smootly!!! (less than 2 minutes from startx to launch konsole). GREAT! But why after renaming Desktop and .k* files still KDE starts so slowly? Could be a file you missed, or an environment variable you've set somewhere (like the PATH), etc. What I'd probably do next is to log out as your normal user, rename your normal user's home directory (like, add a ".bak" on the end of the directory name), create a new directory for your normal user with the proper permissions on the directory, copy over the /etc/skel files into this new directory (and check the perms on those files also), then relogin as the normal user and try it. If that works, gradually copy over the data from your backup directory (starting with the /etc/skel files) and keep logging out/in until you find the culprit, or until you're satisfied with your new setup. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
Thanks All, Ken wrote: "For diagnostic purposes, create a new user, and log in to KDE as that user. Does that user have a slow login also? If not, the problem is in your personal KDE settings. If so, then it's a system-wide problem. But I suspect it's in your files rather than system-wide, thus this suggestion to try a new user." I removed (purged) all desktop (lastly was installed gnome -similiar behavior - but why?) packages and installed kde-core package. Start time about 10-12 minutes. Then I renamed Desktop and all .k* files in my home directory and ... similiar results (next restart after Configuration wizard took about 10 minutes also) Next, as Ken suggested, I create a new user and it works smootly!!! (less than 2 minutes from startx to launch konsole). GREAT! But why after renaming Desktop and .k* files still KDE starts so slowly? Andreas wrote: "Maybe running fc-cache to rebuild the font cache helps" Please clarify, I don't understand this, and "I would remove all the KDE packages including the configuration: apt-get --purge remove kde.* and then reinstall it, if nothing else helps." I made this many times, but this dosn't help. Thomas wrote: "This is normal for KDE" No, I dont think is normall Thanks all once again Mirek Stefanski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
El Domingo, 14 de Noviembre de 2004 13:29, Mirek Stefanski escribió: > Hi All, > > On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody with > KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop started > about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully functional desktop. > > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was > done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and > first start of any application (konsole, mozilla) takes a long time. > I can confirm the same in a Pentium III 850 Mhz, with 512 MB ram. I have a dual instalation with SuSE 9.0 and Debian-sarge. The time loading anything with Debian-Sarge-KDE costs more than double than the same with SuSE :( Please, a solution or I will have to abandon debian-sarge. Guillermo -- Guillermo Ballester Valor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ogijares, Granada SPAIN Linux user #117181. See http://counter.li.org/ Public GPG KEY http://www.oxixares.com/~gbv/pubgpg.html
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
| On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) | I was happy user of Woody with KDE (regullary updated) | as my desktop env. | | Graphical desktop started about 1-2 minutes | and after next 1 minute I had fully functional desktop. | | But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge | - after one day battle it was done. | | Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, | and first start of any application (konsole, mozilla) | takes a long time. | Mirek I use a somewhat similar, but even slower system o Compaq Presario 5.5 years old o Cyrix processor 250 Mhz o Memory . 192 MB o Dual-Boot OS o Win98_SE o Debian Sarge Re-starting Win98_SE and booting into Debian Sarge with the KDE desktop fully loaded takes about 4.5 minutes Approximate application start-up times from KDE panel icons o konsole 07-08 sec o kwrite . 09-10 sec o konqueror .. 09-10 sec o moz firefox 34-36 sec o moz thunderbird 24-26 sec Although the application start-up times are a bit slow, they seem acceptable to me given the limited nature of the hardware I'm using In all cases after the initial start-ups, the applications respond very quickly Both Mozilla applications, firefox & thunderbird, also load slowly under Win98_SE on this same machine, so I don't think that is Debian related Since this is my first Linux OS, I don't know whether or not these start-up times are in the same ball-park as others using similar hardware -- Cousin Stanley Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
On November 14, 2004 05:16, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was > > done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and > > This is normal for KDE. > No its not! I have a similarly old 350 MHz system and have no where near start times like that. From following the kde list the most common problem for people with extremely slow start times is the network setup (Even if the machine is not networked). Kde is waiting for a response and the system is timing out. Make sure loopback is in /etc/network/interfaces and that the /etc/networks file is OK. Also check your /etc/host* files and that nothing strange is happening with dns. RJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
Mirek Stefanski wrote: Hi All, On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody with KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop started about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully functional desktop. But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and first start of any application (konsole, mozilla) takes a long time. I made plenty of differnt experiments - I deinstaled KDE and installed it once again, I switched to gnome, once again to KDE and switched off of all efects - result is still the same. Can somebody give me some idea to make Sarge+KDE working as good as Woody+KDE or it is on my comuter totaly imposible ? PS. I write this letter on Woody - I cloned it before upgrading For diagnostic purposes, create a new user, and log in to KDE as that user. Does that user have a slow login also? If not, the problem is in your personal KDE settings. If so, then it's a system-wide problem. But I suspect it's in your files rather than system-wide, thus this suggestion to try a new user. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
Hello Mirek Stefanski (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On my home PC (333MHZ Celeron, 192MB RAM) I was happy user of Woody > with KDE (regullary updated) as my desktop env. Graphical desktop > started about 1-2 minutes and after next 1 minute I had fully > functional desktop. > > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it > was done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, > and first start of any application (konsole, mozilla) takes a long > time. Maybe running fc-cache to rebuild the font cache helps. Also make sure your lo interface is up (ifconfig). > I made plenty of differnt experiments - I deinstaled KDE and installed > it once again, I switched to gnome, once again to KDE and switched off > of all efects - result is still the same. > > Can somebody give me some idea to make Sarge+KDE working as good as > Woody+KDE or it is on my comuter totaly imposible ? I would remove all the KDE packages including the configuration: apt-get --purge remove kde.* and then reinstall it, if nothing else helps. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps-sarge.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please help: Sarge+KDE terribly slow!?
--- Mirek Stefanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But one day I decided to upgrade to Sarge - after one day battle it was > done. Now I have to wait about 10 minutes to start KDE desktop, and This is normal for KDE. -- Thomas Adam = "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net " We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail www.yahoo.co.uk/10k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
