Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Robbi Nespu]

The data also on salsa now
https://salsa.debian.org/linuxhw/TestCoverage/-/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11


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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Andrey Ponomarenko]

> on 24 Jul 2021 16:27:23 -0400, Jim Popovitch  wrote
> 
>> Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site?
> 
> the package are dump and store at
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/hw-probe by debian package maintainer,
> maybe the upstream author (Andrey Ponomarenko) want to centralize
> testcoverage report using same repo?
> 
> i have issued https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/issues/1 about the
> ideas of using salsa for debian testcoverage
> 
> The tool using dual license (LGPL-2.1-or-later OR BSD-4-Clause), You can
> choose between one of them but not sure about the testcoverage reports
> 
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The report is now available in Debian Salsa: 
https://salsa.debian.org/linuxhw/TestCoverage/-/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11

The license is CC-BY-4.0.

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[David Wright]

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 12:54:14 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote:
> Andrey Ponomarenko  writes:
> 
> > LiveCDs for quick testing:
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> 
> Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what
> parameters are needed? Making testing easy eases testing...

As the images are iso-hybrids, you should be able to boot
them from a USB stick or a CD, and in a machine that boots
via UEFI or BIOS. Grub shouldn't be involved, as iso-hybrids
use isolinux.

Do you /particlarly/ want to use Grub? If so, it's possible,
but far more involved, and is basically a workaround if you
have no CD burner /and/ can't boot the machine from USB.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Anssi Saari]

Andrey Ponomarenko  writes:

> LiveCDs for quick testing:
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/

Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what
parameters are needed? Making testing easy eases testing...

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Chuck Zmudzinski]

On 7/24/2021 4:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Hello!

Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling 
out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: 
https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 

The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but 
I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone 
can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list 
using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe 
.
You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page 
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
.

Andrey
I just added my 7-year-old ASRock Desktop running bullseye to the 
linuxhw database. I have been running Debian on it since Wheezy was the 
stable version and I have been testing bullseye on it since bullseye 
reached the soft freeze back in February. It works well and I just 
migrated bullseye to my SSD so it boots from the SSD and bullseye boots 
to the gnome desktop as fast as buster did from the SSD. The only issue 
I have seen with bullseye is that when I run bullseye as a Dom0 on the 
Xen hypervisor (using the Xen 4.14 package for bullseye), for some 
reason the system will not power down. The operating system does stop 
but the power stays on and I need to hit the reset button and then the 
power button to make it actually power down. Bullseye is the first 
version of Debian to exhibit this issue which only occurs when running 
bullseye as a Dom0 on Xen - bullseye powers down normally when running 
on the bare metal.


Chuck

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Andrey Ponomarenko]

- все Intermediate results will be published one week before the release (~Aug 7) - it's best time to contribute. But in the last week the report will still be updated daily till the release. After the release the report will be updated monthly. 28.07.2021, 22:59, "paolo gagini" :Hi,what is the last day to take the test?thank you.PaoloOn 28/07/21 21:45, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe. You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. AndreyHello!Many of my hardware components in the tested laptop become "detected"but not marked as "works", although I can confirm that they do workflawlessly. Obviously the hw-probe did not catch all information aspositive as possible. Anything I can do about it?Marco You can set status to 'works' manually in the review. Look for REVIEW green button on the probe page. Thanks. Andrey -- 
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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[paolo gagini]

Hi,

what is the last day to take the test?

thank you.

Paolo

On 28/07/21 21:45, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :

On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

 Hello!

 Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by
filling out
 the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
 https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
 The development team only has a limited set of hardware for
tests, but
 I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the
community. Anyone
 can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to
the list
 using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe.
 You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
 https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.
 Andrey


Hello!
Many of my hardware components in the tested laptop become "detected"
but not marked as "works", although I can confirm that they do work
flawlessly. Obviously the hw-probe did not catch all information as
positive as possible. Anything I can do about it?
Marco

You can set status to 'works' manually in the review. Look for REVIEW 
green button on the probe page.

Thanks.
Andrey


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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Andrey Ponomarenko]

27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe. You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. AndreyHello!Many of my hardware components in the tested laptop become "detected"but not marked as "works", although I can confirm that they do workflawlessly. Obviously the hw-probe did not catch all information aspositive as possible. Anything I can do about it?Marco You can set status to 'works' manually in the review. Look for REVIEW green button on the probe page. Thanks. Andrey 

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Marco Möller]

On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Hello!

Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out 
the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: 
https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 

The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but 
I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone 
can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list 
using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe 
.
You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page 
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
.

Andrey


Hello!
Many of my hardware components in the tested laptop become "detected" 
but not marked as "works", although I can confirm that they do work 
flawlessly. Obviously the hw-probe did not catch all information as 
positive as possible. Anything I can do about it?

Marco

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[piorunz]

On 24/07/2021 21:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Hello!

Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out
the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11

The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but
I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone
can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list
using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe
.
You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
.
Andrey


Thanks for this, I tested and uploaded results on several computers
which are running Debian 10 and some 11 already.

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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Robbi Nespu]

on 24 Jul 2021 16:27:23 -0400, Jim Popovitch  wrote

Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site?


the package are dump and store at 
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/hw-probe by debian package maintainer, 
maybe the upstream author (Andrey Ponomarenko) want to centralize 
testcoverage report using same repo?


i have issued https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/issues/1 about the 
ideas of using salsa for debian testcoverage


The tool using dual license (LGPL-2.1-or-later OR BSD-4-Clause), You can 
choose between one of them but not sure about the testcoverage reports


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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Kenneth Parker]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 4:23 PM Andrey Ponomarenko <
andrewponomare...@yandex.ru> wrote:

> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out
> the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
> 
>

By a "Stroke of luck", I have been running "Almost Production" Bullseye
systems since halfway through the Testing Process.  Any System that runs a
Qemu-KVM Guest is now running on Bullseye.

I first created a Qemu-KVM Guest under Mint 20, promptly ran out of Disk
Space, and so wanted to Import it to Debian (after developing a HUGE
dislike of Mint 20, mainly due to their Install Process).  *However*, I was
unable to Import that Qemu Guest to Buster (which I was running then),
because Buster refused the Import due to a lower Release Level for Qemu.
So, I bit the Bullet and am Quite Happy with Bullseye (though there were a
few Bumps, some of which were handled on this List, and one that became a
Debian Bug Report).

So I will make my Entries, via that Github Link for three HP Systems and
three Lenovo Laptops.  As a bonus, I will dust off an Ancient Gaming Laptop
and see how far I get, adding it too.  One note:  Some are upset over
Github.  I remain neutral, even to running a Windows 10 Guest on my HP
Elitedesk 705 G1 under Bullseye.

 You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
> https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.
>
> Andrey
>

 Kenneth Parker

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Brian]

On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> 
> > Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site?
> 
> ...you're right. I won't touch github unless I'm forced to :-(

I went to

  https://github.com/alexpevzner/sane-airscan

and found it full of very useful information. You will explain why
Microsoft's involvement in the site should make me wary of advising
users to go there?

-- 
Brian.

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Nate Bargmann]

I've been running Bullseye on a Lenovo T410 (2522-WUZ) for the past 18
months.  I also updated my tower, Lenovo M73 (MJ00D7ZZ) earlier this
year.  It is working quite well.

- Nate

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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Erwan David]

Le 25/07/2021 à 14:33, Andrey Ponomarenko a écrit :
> - все
>  
> 25.07.2021, 14:30, "kaye n" :
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:23 AM Andrey Ponomarenko
>  wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by
> filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware
> configurations:
> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
>  
> The development team only has a limited set of hardware for
> tests, but I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in
> the community. Anyone can easily add their computers / laptops
> or servers info to the list using the package
> https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe.
>  
> You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
> https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.
>  
> Andrey
>  
>
> Should I participate if my laptop is 10 years old? 
>
>  
> Sure. According to latest stats
> https://github.com/linuxhw/Trends#mfg-year about 20% of Linux users
> have 10 years old hardware and older.
>  
> Andrey
>  

I run on testing till sometime, should I answer based on this ?

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Charles Curley]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:30:22 +0800
kaye n  wrote:

> Should I participate if my laptop is 10 years old?

Yes, please. Many folks use Debian to extend the lives of machines that
other OSes no longer support. I have some 2007 machines I've been
testing.

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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Andrey Ponomarenko]

- все 25.07.2021, 14:30, "kaye n" :On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:23 AM Andrey Ponomarenko  wrote:Hello!Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe. You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. Andrey Should I participate if my laptop is 10 years old?  Sure. According to latest stats https://github.com/linuxhw/Trends#mfg-year about 20% of Linux users have 10 years old hardware and older. Andrey 

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Andrey Ponomarenko]

LiveCDs for quick testing: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Although full-fledged installations are more desirable. 24.07.2021, 23:23, "Andrey Ponomarenko" :Hello!Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe. You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.Andrey 

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[kaye n]

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:23 AM Andrey Ponomarenko <
andrewponomare...@yandex.ru> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out
> the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
> 
>
> The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but I'm
> sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone can
> easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list using the
> package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe.
>
> You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
> https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.
>
> Andrey
>
>
Should I participate if my laptop is 10 years old?

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[tomas]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-07-24 at 23:14 +0300, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling
> > out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:

[...]

Good idea, but...

> Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site?

...you're right. I won't touch github unless I'm forced to :-(

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 4:23 PM Andrey Ponomarenko
 wrote:
>
> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the 
> community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: 
> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
>

Wow! This is something I always wanted to see.

> The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but I'm 
> sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone can easily 
> add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list using the package 
> https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe.
>

Nice! Thanks for letting us know about hw-probe. It seems like a new
(and useful) tool introduced in the bullseye release.

 % rmadison hw-probe
hw-probe   | 1.5-1 | testing  | source, all
hw-probe   | 1.5-1 | unstable | source, all
hw-probe   | 1.6~beta-1| experimental | source, all

thanks
raju
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Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 7/25/21 1:33 AM, Mark Allums wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/24/2021 3:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling
>> out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
>> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
>> 
> I get a 404 at the above address.
> 

The URL has extra bracket at the end. Just remove it.

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Peter Ehlert]

On 7/24/21 2:54 PM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:

On 7/24/21 11:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Hello!

Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out
the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11

  
The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but

I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone
can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list
using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe
.
  
You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
.
  

Does submitting report for 4+ years old hardware make sense?


Yes.

many of us use older hardware.

personally I had some trouble with my primary laptop, and I did report it
subject: installation-reports
sub...@bugs.debian.org

the more info the better



Kind regards
Georgi

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Mark Allums]

On 7/24/2021 3:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Hello!

Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling 
out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: 
https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 


I get a 404 at the above address.

The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but 
I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone 
can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list 
using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe 
.
You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page 
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
.

Andrey

Mark Allums

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 7/24/21 11:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out
> the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
> 
>  
> The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but
> I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone
> can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list
> using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe
> .
>  
> You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
> https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> .
>  

Does submitting report for 4+ years old hardware make sense?

Kind regards
Georgi

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

[Jim Popovitch]

On Sat, 2021-07-24 at 23:14 +0300, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling
> out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:
> https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11
>  
> The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but
> I'm sure we can find almost any configuration in the community. Anyone
> can easily add their computers / laptops or servers info to the list
> using the package https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hw-probe.
>  
> You can download Debian 11 release candidate on the page
> https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/.
>  
> Andrey
>  


Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site?

-Jim P.