Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-06 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Jul 2011, KS wrote:
 On 05/07/11 01:55 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  Hi!
  Maybe you will give cups a try.
  - Install cups
  - Open a browser and type in http://localhost:631
  - when the webgui starts, cofigure to your needs.
  
  Good luck!
  
  Hans
  
  
 
 CUPS is what I use for my HL-2070N (and temporarily the HL-2070W). For
 some drivers which I could choose from, it wouldn't even print. So right
 now I'm using: Brother HL-2140 Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended)
 
 Try different drivers to see which suits best.

CUPS seems to be the default printer set-up these days but I don't like
it. I've always used magicfilter; easy to set up and it's worked with
4 or 5 different printers over the years. You are not confined to the
drivers that are supplied with the program; you can add whatever you
like in /etc/printcap. Currently I'm using the HL5240 driver for a
Brother laser.

Anthony

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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 14:37:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 using system-config-printer I tried to get a HP DeskJet 600 working.
 It's printing in disgusting quality only. Years ago I used the same
 printer. The setup was easy to do and the printing quality was
 excellent, I can't remember if it was on Debian, but at least it was
 Linux. If I try to print by best quality using Debian today, the
 printing is deformed. Standard and draft printings are disgusting, much
 more worse than they should be.

(...)

A bad printer driver can give indeed very poor results :-(

For that kind of printer I would go for the latest available version of 
HPLIP and try with that.

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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi!
Maybe you will give cups a try.
- Install cups
- Open a browser and type in http://localhost:631
- when the webgui starts, cofigure to your needs.

Good luck!

Hans


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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread KS
On 05/07/11 01:55 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Hi!
 Maybe you will give cups a try.
 - Install cups
 - Open a browser and type in http://localhost:631
 - when the webgui starts, cofigure to your needs.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Hans
 
 

CUPS is what I use for my HL-2070N (and temporarily the HL-2070W). For
some drivers which I could choose from, it wouldn't even print. So right
now I'm using: Brother HL-2140 Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended)

Try different drivers to see which suits best.

KS


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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 18:00 +,
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
   Forwarded Message 
  From: Camaleón
  Subject: Re: Printer Settings
  Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:37:29 + (UTC)
  
  On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 14:37:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  
   using system-config-printer I tried to get a HP DeskJet 600 working.
   It's printing in disgusting quality only. Years ago I used the same
   printer. The setup was easy to do and the printing quality was
   excellent, I can't remember if it was on Debian, but at least it was
   Linux. If I try to print by best quality using Debian today, the
   printing is deformed. Standard and draft printings are disgusting, much
   more worse than they should be.
  
  (...)
  
  A bad printer driver can give indeed very poor results :-(
  
  For that kind of printer I would go for the latest available version of 
  HPLIP and try with that.
  
  Greetings,

Hi Camaleón :)

I've got hpijs and hplip installed, both drivers are bad :(.
Right now I installed ijsgutenprint, since a gutenprint driver is able
to give good printing quality for fonts, but there's no additional new
driver available by system-config-printer. I'm going to install more
gutenprint packages as soon as possible.

...

   Forwarded Message 
  From: Hans-J. Ullrich
  Subject: Re: Printer Settings
  Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 19:55:27 +0200
  
  Hi!
  Maybe you will give cups a try.
  - Install cups
  - Open a browser and type in http://localhost:631
  - when the webgui starts, cofigure to your needs.
  
  Good luck!
  
  Hans

...

Thank you Hans. I tried starting with this, but it didn't work.
Perhaps the needed cups packages were missing, I can try it again as
soon as possible.

Today and the last days before I just had/have minutes to work on the
computer, that makes it more difficult to solve the issue.

If possible, please carbon copy to my email address, since I'm
receiving digest only.

Regards,

Ralf

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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:30:48PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 I've got hpijs and hplip installed, both drivers are bad :(.
 Right now I installed ijsgutenprint, since a gutenprint driver is able
 to give good printing quality for fonts, but there's no additional new
 driver available by system-config-printer. I'm going to install more
 gutenprint packages as soon as possible.

cups-driver-gutenprint is probably what you want if you're using
CUPS.  Forget IJS!


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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:30:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

   using system-config-printer I tried to get a HP DeskJet 600
   working. It's printing in disgusting quality only. Years ago I used
   the same printer. The setup was easy to do and the printing quality
   was excellent, I can't remember if it was on Debian, but at least
   it was Linux. If I try to print by best quality using Debian today,
   the printing is deformed. Standard and draft printings are
   disgusting, much more worse than they should be.
  
  (...)
  
  A bad printer driver can give indeed very poor results :-(
  
  For that kind of printer I would go for the latest available version
  of HPLIP and try with that.
  
 I've got hpijs and hplip installed, both drivers are bad :(. 

dpkg -l | grep hplip

You may want to try with the lastest available version which is 3.11.5. 
If you already have it installed but still getting bad printing results, 
you may consider in openenning a bug report: if it was printing okay in 
older releases then something has changed to worse.

But before doing so remember to run a full clean routine to discard 
clogged ink at print heads :-P

 Right now I installed ijsgutenprint, since a gutenprint driver is able
 to give good printing quality for fonts, but there's no additional new
 driver available by system-config-printer. I'm going to install more
 gutenprint packages as soon as possible.

HPLIP should provide the better driver for your printer and it's not me 
who says so but:

http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-DeskJet_600

:-)

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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 20:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Right now I installed ijsgutenprint, since a gutenprint driver is able
 to give good printing quality for fonts, but there's no additional new
 driver available by system-config-printer. I'm going to install more
 gutenprint packages as soon as possible.

I additionally installed cups-driver-gutenprint 5.2.6.1-1.
Now there's the 'HP DeskJet 600 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.6' driver
available. While the settings don't provide best printing, but standard
and draft only, there anyway is the possibility to print fonts in best
quality :). I still need to test if there will be any setting for this
driver to get a good printing quality for pics too. Since this is the
driver that I tested with Maverick too, I don't think that pics will be
good :(, anyway, system-config-printer for Debian seems to support
different setting options, than the Maverick version seems to support.

Resume

The drivers 'HP Deskjet 600 hpijs' and 'HP Deskjet, hpcups', I guess
provided by the packages 'hpijs' and 'hplip' are garbage, at least when
using system-config-printer.

The driver 'HP DeskJet 600 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.6', provided by the
package 'cups-driver-gutenprint' cause good printing quality for fonts,
but photos and graphics are still bad. I can test some more settings
using this driver, but I don't have much hope that this will improve
something.

Does anybody know other HP driver packages?
Does anybody know other printer setting apps?

If possible, please carbon copy to my email address, since I'm
receiving digest only.

OT: I found a cheap ink that really dries and this additionally very
soon, so that it doesn't smudge, when trying to smudge using a finger.
The quality of the black seems to be ok too, it's not one of those pale
grey tones instead of black, but it might be still a little bit grey,
regarding to dullness by the angle of vision, I didn't compare it with
artist's colours or original HP ink until now and only used cheap paper.
I also didn't test if it's possible to draw with a layout pencil or any
other colour over the printer ink and I can't say if a printing will be
ok after being in daylight for one or two month. Compared to other cheap
ink I'm already enthralled that it doesn't smudge.


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Re: Printer Settings

2011-07-05 Thread André Berger
* KS (2011-07-05):
 On 05/07/11 01:55 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
[...]
 CUPS is what I use for my HL-2070N (and temporarily the HL-2070W). For
 some drivers which I could choose from, it wouldn't even print. So right
 now I'm using: Brother HL-2140 Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended)
 
 Try different drivers to see which suits best.

Side note: Brother HL-1250 Foomatic/hl1250 (recommended) works with
the HL-2070N, too. 

-André

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