Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 04/09/2022 01:17 PM, davidson wrote: On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/08/2022 01:18 AM, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is important to you). I've never used wget. I just did an initial reading of its quite detailed man page. Is there a recommended introduction to wget. I'm not thinking of a tutorial so much as a "What wget can do for you" intro. $ info --index-string=Examples wget Same material on public web pages: https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Examples.html Thank you. That's the type of page I'm looking for. The HTML format is more practical than straight text as I can preset a suitable font size.
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/08/2022 01:18 AM, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is important to you). I've never used wget. I just did an initial reading of its quite detailed man page. Is there a recommended introduction to wget. I'm not thinking of a tutorial so much as a "What wget can do for you" intro. $ info --index-string=Examples wget Same material on public web pages: https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Examples.html -- Ce qui est important est rarement urgent et ce qui est urgent est rarement important -- Dwight David Eisenhower
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On Sat, 2022-04-09 at 06:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I've never used wget. I just did an initial reading of its quite > detailed man page. Is there a recommended introduction to wget. I'm not > thinking of a tutorial so much as a "What wget can do for you" intro. I don't know about any intro. It's just one of those tools you come across and remember exists, so you can Google for usage examples and/or read the man page to customise it's behaviour to the use-case in hand. -- Tixy
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 04/08/2022 01:18 AM, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is important to you). I've never used wget. I just did an initial reading of its quite detailed man page. Is there a recommended introduction to wget. I'm not thinking of a tutorial so much as a "What wget can do for you" intro. The data cap on my monthly internet usage is about to become less intrusive. I've been informed that the bandwidth available to the local library's machines makes downloading DVD1 reasonable.
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 20:43:40 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > On 08/04/2022 20:27, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 07:18:28 (+0100), Tixy wrote: > > > On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for > > > > *OFFLINE* use. > > > > > > > > The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] > > > > lead *ONLY* to Page 1. > > > You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: > > > > > >wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ > > > > > > That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is > > > important to you). > > And for those on dial-up, a text version in one big page, compressed, > > comes in at 128723 bytes. (I think it would be necessary to solicit > > a copy from someone, anyone, by email.) > > 20 years ago there were services for this: > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/ > > One used to be able to access FTP, Gopher, Verionica, Jughead or even > - if you were so inclined - the World Wide Web just by sending > commands in the body of an email. I've not used these services in > about ten years, though, so I don't know how many still exist. That's right. They were very useful during a short period of time when our PCs (and Macs) at work were networked (Pathworks and Localtalk IIRC) but not actually running TCP/IP. (~Early 1990s.) But AFAICT, while a text version (413294 bytes) is on the Debian site with a URL, the compressed version is embedded in a 17-language .deb file. Cheers, David.
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 08/04/2022 20:27, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 07:18:28 (+0100), Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is important to you). And for those on dial-up, a text version in one big page, compressed, comes in at 128723 bytes. (I think it would be necessary to solicit a copy from someone, anyone, by email.) 20 years ago there were services for this: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/ One used to be able to access FTP, Gopher, Verionica, Jughead or even - if you were so inclined - the World Wide Web just by sending commands in the body of an email. I've not used these services in about ten years, though, so I don't know how many still exist. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On Fri 08 Apr 2022 at 07:18:28 (+0100), Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for > > *OFFLINE* use. > > > > The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] > > lead *ONLY* to Page 1. > > You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: > > wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ > > That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is > important to you). And for those on dial-up, a text version in one big page, compressed, comes in at 128723 bytes. (I think it would be necessary to solicit a copy from someone, anyone, by email.) Cheers, David.
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 09:40 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for > *OFFLINE* use. > > The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] > lead *ONLY* to Page 1. You can download all the pages using a recursive wget: wget -r -k -np https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ That's 774kB of files when I tried it (I know internet data usage is important to you). -- Tixy
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 04/07/2022 10:56 AM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/7/22, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/7/22, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. Is the complete document downloadable as a single HTML file? Have you seen the "installation-guide-amd64" package in Debian's repositories? I'd never seen it before. Stumbled upon it about a month ago. I just launched it, and it looks similar to what's on your page there, just for Bookworm instead of Bullseye for me. Mine doesn't have that opening "Welcome" chapter, but there are all kinds of references to how to install throughout the rest of it. I went back and looked at my copy some more. It also doesn't (?) present that handy part about prerequisites. If that's something that's also needed, I took a hint from wayback-machine-downloader [0] and tried searching apt-get's repositories for similar. Ended up with "webhttrack" which says: "Description-en: Copy websites to your computer, httrack with a Web interface WebHTTrack is an offline browser utility, allowing you to download a World Wide website from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively all directories, getting html, images, and other files from the server to your computer, using a step-by-step web interface. . WebHTTrack arranges the original site's relative link-structure. Simply open a page of the "mirrored" website in your browser, and you can browse the site from link to link, as if you were viewing it online. HTTrack can also update an existing mirrored site, and resume interrupted downloads. WebHTTrack is fully configurable, and has an integrated help system." One issue would be for those websites that use hard (full, long) links instead of the relative ones. I just viewed your online link's source code, and the links, thankfully, appear to be relative. Thank you, Debian Developers! PS Looking one more time at WebHTTrack's self-description, fingers crossed that maybe it creates relative links as it works its magic, regardless of what the original website's webmaster did. THAT would nice! Cindy :) [0] https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader WebHTTrack sounds like a program I've used, it can download just about any reasonable document. Linux-Fan pointed me to the right directory so my current problem is solved. Thank you.
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 04/07/2022 11:59 AM, Linux-Fan wrote: Richard Owlett writes: On 04/07/2022 10:22 AM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/7/22, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. Is the complete document downloadable as a single HTML file? Have you seen the "installation-guide-amd64" package in Debian's repositories? Thank you. No, I hadn't. The machine I'm currently on is running Debian 9.13 [I'm prepping to do a install of 11.3 to another machine]. I found it listed in Synaptic and installed it. It does not appear in any of MATE's menus and I can't reboot until later today. Do you know in which sub-directory I might find it? Try /usr/share/doc/installation-guide-amd64/en/index.html as the entry point. An easy way to find out about a package's files after installation is `dpkg -L `, e.g. in this case: $ dpkg -L installation-guide-amd64 Btw. the guide in the package is then not a single HTML file but multiple files (in case it matters...) My hard requirement was that it was accessible while off-line. That it is in multiple files might make one of day-dream projects feasible. Thank you. HTH Linux-Fan öö [...]
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
Richard Owlett writes: On 04/07/2022 10:22 AM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/7/22, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. Is the complete document downloadable as a single HTML file? Have you seen the "installation-guide-amd64" package in Debian's repositories? Thank you. No, I hadn't. The machine I'm currently on is running Debian 9.13 [I'm prepping to do a install of 11.3 to another machine]. I found it listed in Synaptic and installed it. It does not appear in any of MATE's menus and I can't reboot until later today. Do you know in which sub-directory I might find it? Try /usr/share/doc/installation-guide-amd64/en/index.html as the entry point. An easy way to find out about a package's files after installation is `dpkg -L `, e.g. in this case: $ dpkg -L installation-guide-amd64 Btw. the guide in the package is then not a single HTML file but multiple files (in case it matters...) HTH Linux-Fan öö [...] pgpREAh7J2Hck.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 04/07/2022 10:22 AM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/7/22, Richard Owlett wrote: I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for *OFFLINE* use. The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] lead *ONLY* to Page 1. Is the complete document downloadable as a single HTML file? Have you seen the "installation-guide-amd64" package in Debian's repositories? Thank you. No, I hadn't. The machine I'm currently on is running Debian 9.13 [I'm prepping to do a install of 11.3 to another machine]. I found it listed in Synaptic and installed it. It does not appear in any of MATE's menus and I can't reboot until later today. Do you know in which sub-directory I might find it? I'd never seen it before. Stumbled upon it about a month ago. I just launched it, and it looks similar to what's on your page there, just for Bookworm instead of Bullseye for me. Mine doesn't have that opening "Welcome" chapter, but there are all kinds of references to how to install throughout the rest of it. Hope that helps someone, anyway. Cindy :)
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 4/7/22, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/7/22, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for >> *OFFLINE* use. >> >> The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] >> lead *ONLY* to Page 1. >> >> Is the complete document downloadable as a single HTML file? > > > Have you seen the "installation-guide-amd64" package in Debian's > repositories? I'd never seen it before. Stumbled upon it about a month > ago. I just launched it, and it looks similar to what's on your page > there, just for Bookworm instead of Bullseye for me. Mine doesn't have > that opening "Welcome" chapter, but there are all kinds of references > to how to install throughout the rest of it. I went back and looked at my copy some more. It also doesn't (?) present that handy part about prerequisites. If that's something that's also needed, I took a hint from wayback-machine-downloader [0] and tried searching apt-get's repositories for similar. Ended up with "webhttrack" which says: "Description-en: Copy websites to your computer, httrack with a Web interface WebHTTrack is an offline browser utility, allowing you to download a World Wide website from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively all directories, getting html, images, and other files from the server to your computer, using a step-by-step web interface. . WebHTTrack arranges the original site's relative link-structure. Simply open a page of the "mirrored" website in your browser, and you can browse the site from link to link, as if you were viewing it online. HTTrack can also update an existing mirrored site, and resume interrupted downloads. WebHTTrack is fully configurable, and has an integrated help system." One issue would be for those websites that use hard (full, long) links instead of the relative ones. I just viewed your online link's source code, and the links, thankfully, appear to be relative. Thank you, Debian Developers! PS Looking one more time at WebHTTrack's self-description, fingers crossed that maybe it creates relative links as it works its magic, regardless of what the original website's webmaster did. THAT would nice! Cindy :) [0] https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *
Re: Problem downloading "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)"
On 4/7/22, Richard Owlett wrote: > I need a *HTML* copy of "Installation Guide for 64-bit PC (amd64)" for > *OFFLINE* use. > > The HTML links on [https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual] > lead *ONLY* to Page 1. > > Is the complete document downloadable as a single HTML file? Have you seen the "installation-guide-amd64" package in Debian's repositories? I'd never seen it before. Stumbled upon it about a month ago. I just launched it, and it looks similar to what's on your page there, just for Bookworm instead of Bullseye for me. Mine doesn't have that opening "Welcome" chapter, but there are all kinds of references to how to install throughout the rest of it. Hope that helps someone, anyway. Cindy :) -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *
