Re: Problem with GDM setting ugly system fonts

2004-06-20 Thread Piers Kittel
Hello,
Here's the outputs from ps aux and the server settings for startx, kdm 
and gdm:

startx - fonts comes up fine:
ps aux | grep x gives:
piers  948  0.0  0.1  2300  644 tty2 S+   17:38   0:00 xinit 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc
piers 1003  0.0  0.1  2972  872 ?Ss   17:38   0:00 
/usr/bin/ssh-agent x-window-manager

ps aux |grep X gives:
piers 1231  0.0  0.1  2300  644 tty2 S+   17:41   0:00 xinit 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc
root  1232 39.5  7.4 366416 38160 ?  S

gdm - fonts comes up as nasty:
ps aux | grep X gives:
root  1094 12.4  7.5 367204 38948 ?  S

kdm - fonts comes up as fine (same as startx):
ps aux | grep X gives:
root  1412 18.4  7.4 366908 38628 ?  S

Looks like KDM and StartX is using 100dpi while GDM isn't setting any DPI.
Thanks very much for your help again ;)
Cheers - Piers
Micha Feigin wrote:
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 01:04:56AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 06:27:10PM +0100, Piers Kittel wrote:
Hello all,
After a long while, finally got GDM to work with Windowmaker, but the 
system fonts are a little horrible - am trying to fix it.  After 
extensive search on Google it seems that GDM sets the DPI of the X 
server wrongly - anyone help me find out exactly where to set the 
correct DPI?  I've looked into GDM and added "-dpi 100" to the bottom of 

I just played with something else my self and noticed the difference
with the dpi. The thing is the smaller the dpi the smaller the fonts
you will get. Try setting it to "-dpi 75" instead of "-dpi 100", could
be that 100 is your default for gdm and 75 for kdm.

the config file where it has the server start command, but it changes 
the font size of the text in GDM itself, but not in windowmaker - 
application fonts are fine, it's those fonts on the menus like "File, 
Edit, View" etc that looks nasty.

Thanks very much for your help in advance
Cheers - Piers
I don't think its gdm that setting your fonts, but to test it out you
can stop gdm (/etc/init.d.gdm stop) and try running X using startx and
see if you still have the problem.
I believe its windowmaker settings.

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Re: Problem with GDM setting ugly system fonts

2004-06-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 01:04:56AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 06:27:10PM +0100, Piers Kittel wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > After a long while, finally got GDM to work with Windowmaker, but the 
> > system fonts are a little horrible - am trying to fix it.  After 
> > extensive search on Google it seems that GDM sets the DPI of the X 
> > server wrongly - anyone help me find out exactly where to set the 
> > correct DPI?  I've looked into GDM and added "-dpi 100" to the bottom of 

I just played with something else my self and noticed the difference
with the dpi. The thing is the smaller the dpi the smaller the fonts
you will get. Try setting it to "-dpi 75" instead of "-dpi 100", could
be that 100 is your default for gdm and 75 for kdm.

> > the config file where it has the server start command, but it changes 
> > the font size of the text in GDM itself, but not in windowmaker - 
> > application fonts are fine, it's those fonts on the menus like "File, 
> > Edit, View" etc that looks nasty.
> > 
> > Thanks very much for your help in advance
> > 
> > Cheers - Piers
> > 
> 
> I don't think its gdm that setting your fonts, but to test it out you
> can stop gdm (/etc/init.d.gdm stop) and try running X using startx and
> see if you still have the problem.
> 
> I believe its windowmaker settings.
> 
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Re: Problem with GDM setting ugly system fonts

2004-06-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:15:49AM +0100, Piers Kittel wrote:
> Micha,
> 
> Well, I was using KDM before and the fonts were perfect - when I switch 
> back to KDM, the fonts are fine, but when I switch to GDM the fonts goes 
> ugly.  But anyway, tried your method, but when I do an "startx" it loads 
> xcfe - how do I get startx to load windowmaker?
> 
> Thanks for your help so far!
> 
> Cheers - Piers
> 

Another thing, you can also chose the default window manager using as root
update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

> Micha Feigin wrote:
> >I don't think its gdm that setting your fonts, but to test it out you
> >can stop gdm (/etc/init.d.gdm stop) and try running X using startx and
> >see if you still have the problem.
> >
> >I believe its windowmaker settings.
> 
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Re: Problem with GDM setting ugly system fonts

2004-06-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:15:49AM +0100, Piers Kittel wrote:
> Micha,
> 
> Well, I was using KDM before and the fonts were perfect - when I switch 
> back to KDM, the fonts are fine, but when I switch to GDM the fonts goes 
> ugly.  But anyway, tried your method, but when I do an "startx" it loads 
> xcfe - how do I get startx to load windowmaker?
> 

try:
cat "exec windowmaker" > ~/.xsession
chmod +x ~/.xsession

Also to play around with the dpi to see if that is the problem you can
run
startx -- -dpi 100

If all this solves the problem then we can go back to gdm and see what
its doing wrong.

You could also try starting X through gdm and through kdm and each time
do a ps ax after startup and see if there is a difference in the
running programs, could be kdm is starting some server in the
background (I know evolution had really ugly fonts for me until I
found out I had to start gnome-settings-daemon).

> Thanks for your help so far!
> 
> Cheers - Piers
> 
> Micha Feigin wrote:
> >I don't think its gdm that setting your fonts, but to test it out you
> >can stop gdm (/etc/init.d.gdm stop) and try running X using startx and
> >see if you still have the problem.
> >
> >I believe its windowmaker settings.
> 
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Re: Problem with GDM setting ugly system fonts

2004-06-17 Thread Piers Kittel
Micha,
Well, I was using KDM before and the fonts were perfect - when I switch 
back to KDM, the fonts are fine, but when I switch to GDM the fonts goes 
ugly.  But anyway, tried your method, but when I do an "startx" it loads 
xcfe - how do I get startx to load windowmaker?

Thanks for your help so far!
Cheers - Piers
Micha Feigin wrote:
I don't think its gdm that setting your fonts, but to test it out you
can stop gdm (/etc/init.d.gdm stop) and try running X using startx and
see if you still have the problem.
I believe its windowmaker settings.

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Re: Problem with GDM setting ugly system fonts

2004-06-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 06:27:10PM +0100, Piers Kittel wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> After a long while, finally got GDM to work with Windowmaker, but the 
> system fonts are a little horrible - am trying to fix it.  After 
> extensive search on Google it seems that GDM sets the DPI of the X 
> server wrongly - anyone help me find out exactly where to set the 
> correct DPI?  I've looked into GDM and added "-dpi 100" to the bottom of 
> the config file where it has the server start command, but it changes 
> the font size of the text in GDM itself, but not in windowmaker - 
> application fonts are fine, it's those fonts on the menus like "File, 
> Edit, View" etc that looks nasty.
> 
> Thanks very much for your help in advance
> 
> Cheers - Piers
> 

I don't think its gdm that setting your fonts, but to test it out you
can stop gdm (/etc/init.d.gdm stop) and try running X using startx and
see if you still have the problem.

I believe its windowmaker settings.

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