Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
Hamish Moffatt writes: > Similarly I have some ideas for some electronics packages (mostly related > to microcontrollers/microprocessors); there is one or two similar > packages at present; is there sufficient interest for me to do some? I'm interested. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
On Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 11:51:05AM +0200, Frits Daalmans wrote: > I have some questions regarding Debian's attitude towards scientific > programs. [...] > Now my questions are these: > - there is no section for chemistry or quantum chemistry yet in the > Debian distribution. Do you think there would be anyone besides me who > would like to have one? To start collecting the freeware programmature > floating around on the 'net to an interoperating suite of quantum > chemistry, modelling, and data conversion programs for both students > and professionals in chemistry. Similarly I have some ideas for some electronics packages (mostly related to microcontrollers/microprocessors); there is one or two similar packages at present; is there sufficient interest for me to do some? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [* ] 51% Your train has been cancelled due to defective government at Spring Street.. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
Ciccio wrote: > > > I think that the section should be for scientific programs in > > > general. > > > > Yes, with GIS packages included: > > > > - Vis5d -> available in Red Hat I think. > > - grass > > grass is huge and seems not to be maintained anymore (anybody > willing to bring 100M source to our century?) Also, almost no > any/Linux support, at least limitations with X at 24bit, etc. I've never tried grass, only heard about it. I'm about to test out Grassland, a commercial front-end to grass. The version I have is for Win95/NT, but they (LAS Inc) is supported to be releasing a Linux version this year. Not free software :-( > Not a GIS, but nice: gmt Seems to me there's a Linux version of that too. Be nice to have a .deb for it! -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
> > I think that the section should be for scientific programs in > > general. > > Yes, with GIS packages included: > > - Vis5d -> available in Red Hat I think. > - grass grass is huge and seems not to be maintained anymore (anybody willing to bring 100M source to our century?) Also, almost no any/Linux support, at least limitations with X at 24bit, etc. Not a GIS, but nice: gmt -- Ciccio C. Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
--- Frits Daalmans wrote: ...have recently obtained a new program for molecular modelling. It was produced under the GPL and (very well) written in C (IMHO). ... - If I contact the author of this 'moldy' program, Keith Refson, and ask his permission to compile and package it for Linux (only i386 for now), in which Debian mailinglists must I discuss this proposal to get it accepted? --- end of quote --- It appears that others have taken up your other question(s), but not this one, so I'll take a crack at it. Probably the best source of information on this subject is at http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-14.html which answers the question, "How can I become a Debian software developer?" Since Debian is a volunteer effort, the packages included in Debian are mostly the ones that somebody wanted badly enough to go ahead and package them. If this 'moldy' program is the one you were referring to as being under GPL, there will be no problem - your package will probably go into the main distribution. Otherwise, the program may have to go into either contrib or non-free, depending on how it has been released. In any case, the official policy is that "development of Debian is open to all, and new users with the right skills and/or willingness to learn are needed...", so I would encourage you to go ahead and get started on making a package. I'm not in chemistry myself, so I don't know if this program will do it, but it might be just the right thing to convince my father to try Debian - I know he's been trying out molecular modeling programs for teaching purposes for a while, and if the software was free, that would help a lot towards getting the tightwads in charge of his university's budget to approve it :-) Stephen Ryan Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1 Mathematics graduate student, Dartmouth College -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
Hello Frits! I don't know anything about quantum chem. at all. But I understand, that you want to become a Debian maintainer of chemical packages. First, you have to install, read and understand the debian-policy. It is a seperate debian package. Then you have to learn, how to build a debian package. Then you subscribe to debian-devel (warning: lot of traffic), and post the list of packages you want to build. Then everyone will say: "Hey, good, please do so" and that's it. You need to PGP sign your package, so get the pgp package from a non-us mirror. There are other tasks to be done, for example you need access to debian master for uploading your package. Feel free to ask at debian-devel, if you have problems. On Aug 08, Frits Daalmans wrote: > Hello all, > > I have some questions regarding Debian's attitude towards scientific > programs. Debian aims to be a complete and wonderful linux distribution. scientific programs are fine. In fact, there is no policy saying: we only need this or that. [lot of stuff snipped] > I am a PhD student in something that could be described as comp.chem, > and have recently obtained a new program for molecular modelling. It was > produced under the GPL and (very well) written in C (IMHO). > > Now my questions are these: > - there is no section for chemistry or quantum chemistry yet in the > Debian distribution. Do you think there would be anyone besides me who > would like to have one? To start collecting the freeware programmature > floating around on the 'net to an interoperating suite of quantum > chemistry, modelling, and data conversion programs for both students > and professionals in chemistry. Build you package and create a section "scientific" or so. > - If I contact the author of this 'moldy' program, Keith Refson, and > ask his permission to compile and package it for Linux (only i386 for > now), in which Debian mailinglists must I discuss this proposal to get > it accepted? Ask the author to choose a license like the GPL, the Artistic license or other. > PS: I have seen the debian-bugs database. I can fully understand if your > response is: "the Debian team has about 11000 other tasks at hand now", > and in that case I'll search out a bugreport that I can solve instead. You misunderstand: You will be member of the Debian team, and will try to resolve your own bug reports :-). BTW: actually, the number of open bugs is far below 11000. Every bug, open or closed, has a uniq number. Marcus, expecting the first chemical package soon. -- "Rhubarb is no Egyptian god." Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: > I think that the section should be for scientific programs in > general. Yes, with GIS packages included: - Vis5d -> available in Red Hat I think. - grass - ... Peter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proposal and questions about chemistry Debian packages
On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Frits Daalmans wrote: > Hello all, > > I have some questions regarding Debian's attitude towards scientific > programs. [...] > Now my questions are these: > - there is no section for chemistry or quantum chemistry yet in the > Debian distribution. Do you think there would be anyone besides me who > would like to have one? To start collecting the freeware programmature > floating around on the 'net to an interoperating suite of quantum > chemistry, modelling, and data conversion programs for both students > and professionals in chemistry. I think that the section should be for scientific programs in general. Could be, if this is the case, split in analysis and laboratory programs. For analysis we already have some good packages (octave, scilab, ...) but for laboratory data acquisition almost nothing except Linux Lab project. I have some interest in data acquisition programs for Linux, such as a program named Maestro for multichannel cards (Ortec). []s, Mario O.de Menezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Nuclear and Energetic Research Institute - IPEN-CNEN/SP BRAZIL | | http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario | "There will be a day when every PC on the world will be a" "host, not a 'MyComputer'!" - mom -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
