Re: Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

Martin Manns:

Seriously, I doubt that any  ordinary user finds this before

 migration, i.e. when you do not have installed systemd, have you got
 those man pages on your system?

That's a failing of Debian packaging in general, not specific to 
systemd.  Few packages have separate -doc or -guide packages.  Try 
reading the manual pages for mingetty off-line when you don't have the 
mingetty package installed, to pick an example at random that hit me 
yesterday.


Martin Manns:

Most important, being able to  boot from an (encrypted) hard drive

 seems crucial to me. What about adding information to the Wiki at
 https://wiki.debian.org/systemd ?

You'll have to address that question to the people whose wiki page it 
is.  See also the Debian Wiki's notion of advanced startup.


* 
https://wiki.debian.org/AdvancedStartupShutdownWithMultilayeredBlockDevices



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Re: Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-03 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

Martin Manns:

After switching to systemd, I  would like to get back the following

 behavior: [...]

Martin Steigerwald:

In fstab in the column pass  you can only specify the fsck order,

 not the mount order.

No, he cannot even do that.  He's switched to systemd, remember. systemd 
converts /etc/fstab to a set of nonce native systemd units on the fly, 
and those are what actually drive mounting and filesystem checking.  The 
conversion used to translate the pass number into an fsckpassno 
setting.  That setting was removed in version 209.  This is the reason:


* 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-September/013439.html



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