Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-08 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Thanks a lot, much much appreciated. 

I now feel I (as a computer science student, and a programmer)have a
direction in learning linux! :) 
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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-07 Thread Brian
On Fri 06 Sep 2013 at 13:56:01 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 10:36:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
  If you append text to the kernel commandline, you'll boot into text
  mode, similar to an RH-based runlevel 3.
 
 I stand corrected. I did some research, and there does in fact appear
 to be a text mode in debian per the text boot option. Apologies if my
 statement saying that there's no such thing as text mode in debian
 caused confusion. This does in fact seem to be the equivalent of not
 starting graphical desktop in a certain run level as is the case in
 some other distributions.

The kernel parameter text is acted on if gdm3 and lightdm are used;
when starting up they consult /proc/cmdline and look for the text
option. An xdm user would agree with your original statement.


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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-06 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Gregory Nowak g...@gregn.net wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 03:55:51PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:

 This was already mentioned. The answer is ctrl+alt+f1 through
 ctrl+alt+f6 by default. Let me clarify. Unlike in some other
 distributions (slackware comes to mind), there is no such thing as
 booting into text mode, since gdm starts up in run levels 2-5, as do
 your six text consoles by default. So, you actually have both the
 graphical environment and text mode available to you at the same
 time. The only way to have truly text mode would be either to disable
 gdm and start x through running startx, or uninstall the graphical
 desktop totally. Since both text and graphical modes are available to
 you anyway, there is no reason to do that if you just want to work at
 a text console. For the sake of completeness, I will mention run level
 1 which is text mode in a single console. You don't want to stay in
 run level one all the time for everyday use though. Kind of drawn out,
 but it hopefully clears things up. In a nutshell, there's no such thing as 
 text
 mode in debian.

If you append text to the kernel commandline, you'll boot into text
mode, similar to an RH-based runlevel 3.


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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-06 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 10:36:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
 If you append text to the kernel commandline, you'll boot into text
 mode, similar to an RH-based runlevel 3.

I stand corrected. I did some research, and there does in fact appear
to be a text mode in debian per the text boot option. Apologies if my
statement saying that there's no such thing as text mode in debian
caused confusion. This does in fact seem to be the equivalent of not
starting graphical desktop in a certain run level as is the case in
some other distributions.

Greg


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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
And I actually managed to forget the footnote... Shame on me

Thanks I was actually wondering where it is! I'll do some research this
weekend and see what can I do with it.
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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
boot Debian into textmode

How can I do this?? 
And thanks, just wondering now how many ways I have got to accomplish
what I want to do! 
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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-05 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 03:55:51PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 boot Debian into textmode
 
 How can I do this?? 
 And thanks, just wondering now how many ways I have got to accomplish
 what I want to do! 

This was already mentioned. The answer is ctrl+alt+f1 through
ctrl+alt+f6 by default. Let me clarify. Unlike in some other
distributions (slackware comes to mind), there is no such thing as
booting into text mode, since gdm starts up in run levels 2-5, as do
your six text consoles by default. So, you actually have both the
graphical environment and text mode available to you at the same
time. The only way to have truly text mode would be either to disable
gdm and start x through running startx, or uninstall the graphical
desktop totally. Since both text and graphical modes are available to
you anyway, there is no reason to do that if you just want to work at
a text console. For the sake of completeness, I will mention run level
1 which is text mode in a single console. You don't want to stay in
run level one all the time for everyday use though. Kind of drawn out,
but it hopefully clears things up. In a nutshell, there's no such thing as text
mode in debian.

Greg


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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
It'd be a lot easier to just CTRL-ALT-F1 to a virtual terminal and work
from there, don't you think?

This is the most easiest solution for me I feel. Thanks Chris!

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Re: Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Thanks a lot! I will find out more information about tty1-tty6. 
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Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Forcing yourself to do something is a matter of self-discipline and
attitude. Debian doesn't have packages for instilling those
qualitities.
:)

This made my day :) 

Create two users. One for the undisciplined Anubhav and the other for
his aspiring self. Switching to the console with CTRL+ALT+F2 gives the
second user the opportunity to log in

Or maybe just logging using the same user after switching to console
with CTRL+ALT+F2. But yes, instead of installing a new version of debian
just to use the console, this seems more feasible! 
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