Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:00:32PM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I should clarify what I mean by cheap: less than $20 or $30 is my goal. So, I'll do some trolling around eBay. Geeks.com have some cheapie players, here's one for $26 which says it works with linux: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-MP3-1GBcat=MP3 Disclaimer: I have no experience with this particular unit, but i have purchased other cheap players at geeks.com in the past which were OK. dt -- Dave Thayer | Whenever you read a good book, it's like the Denver, Colorado USA | author is right there, in the room talking to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you, which is why I don't like to read | good books. - Jack Handey Deep Thoughts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/19/07 01:43, Dave Thayer wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:00:32PM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I should clarify what I mean by cheap: less than $20 or $30 is my goal. So, I'll do some trolling around eBay. Geeks.com have some cheapie players, here's one for $26 which says it works with linux: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-MP3-1GBcat=MP3 Disclaimer: I have no experience with this particular unit, but i have purchased other cheap players at geeks.com in the past which were OK. Hmmm, and it even explicitly mentions Linux. * Product Requirements: * Pentium 200 MHz processor or greater * Microsoft Windows 98/ME/2000/XP * Mac OS X * Linux 2.4.2 or higher * CD-ROM drive (for software CD) * Available USB port If I were in the market for an MP3 player, I'd buy this one just for that reason... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGJ2gDS9HxQb37XmcRAsNnAKClQeq6OTKN4QY2i2BmLTTk2agGzACgn26r w/vI6CyQulUJwkbEUgBpzrg= =dgOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On 04/19/07 01:43, Dave Thayer wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:00:32PM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I should clarify what I mean by cheap: less than $20 or $30 is my goal. So, I'll do some trolling around eBay. I owe Sandisk Sansa player and it works magnificently with linux kernel 2.6. I did encounter problems with kernel 2.4 though, with it being too slow while transferring, but that was all rectified when I upgraded to 2.6. -Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:15:05AM -0500, Rob Wright wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007 10:24, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. [...] Does anyone know of any good, inexpensive players with support for the ogg audio format? I've burned all of my music to .ogg format and I'd like to find a good music player that ISN'T Cowon America (Their customer support is pathetic, I refuse to buy anything from them). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
I'm pretty happy with my Samsung YP-T7, which I got from overstock.com a while back. It has a voice recorder and an FM radio, both of which I use regularly, along with 512MB RAM which is plenty for my casual music use. The interface is OK, a little clunky but I can get used to it (and have). It plays MP3 and OGG natively. The USB interface is plain usb-storage so there are no hassles with moving files. Andy -- Andrew J Perrin - andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu - http://perrin.socsci.unc.edu Assistant Professor of Sociology; Book Review Editor, _Social Forces_ University of North Carolina - CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA New Book: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/178592.ctl On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:15:05AM -0500, Rob Wright wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007 10:24, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. [...] Does anyone know of any good, inexpensive players with support for the ogg audio format? I've burned all of my music to .ogg format and I'd like to find a good music player that ISN'T Cowon America (Their customer support is pathetic, I refuse to buy anything from them). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 02:40:17PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: Does anyone know of any good, inexpensive players with support for the ogg audio format? I've burned all of my music to .ogg format and I'd like to find a good music player that ISN'T Cowon America (Their customer support is pathetic, I refuse to buy anything from them). The iRiver T30 (and presumably other models) cost me about 40GBP on Amazon UK; it supports Ogg-Vorbis and (once a firmware upgrade is installed, which requires Windows) appears as a USB storage device. I can recommend it. bma signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
Dave Thayer wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:00:32PM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I should clarify what I mean by cheap: less than $20 or $30 is my goal. So, I'll do some trolling around eBay. Geeks.com have some cheapie players, here's one for $26 which says it works with linux: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-MP3-1GBcat=MP3 Disclaimer: I have no experience with this particular unit, but i have purchased other cheap players at geeks.com in the past which were OK. dt Also at geeks.com is: 512MB SP-Advance USB2.0 MP4/MP3/Voice Digital Player 1 LCD http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=SP-MP363A-0062cpc=RECOM Does anyone have any experience with this player. It is a few dollars more than the one mentioned above, and only has 512MB, but it plays ogg files and mp4 video, as well as displaying jpeg files. I doesn't say that it works with linux, but it also does not specify Windows (or any other OS). Its requirements only mention a USB port and a CD-ROM drive. It also does not say that it operates as a mass storage device, but... So does anyone know, for sure, if it will just work on a linux box? -- Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On 4/16/07, Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. On 4/17/07, Dusty Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to what everyone else already said, don't forget about the possibility of using a portable music player that has removable storage (SD, etc) and you can use that memory for multiple purposes. Plus you can upgrade your memory or swap cards whenever you feel like it if you have more than one. I use my SD card with a Treo 650 and PocketTunes as well as portable document storage and transfer. I forgot the important part of the SD card usage. You can use the SD card directly with your computer instead of needing to use sync software or anything like that. And if your computer doesn't come with an SD card reader, you can get a great multi-format USB SD/MMC/Sony/etc reader for USD$10 at Wal-Mart or online. Dusty -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David E. Fox wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: I ended up with an Iriver T30. It's like 59.95 at Sears on a 50% off (I think the retail was about 119.95). It's a gig, with decent battery life, very small, but still usable. It's not as easy as expected to sync it with linux. It uses a microsoft protocol. You can replace Archos, Iriver, Apple, Iaudio, Toshiba and other firmware with an open source version from rockbox[1], but I am not sure about your particular model. If you go for an Ipod you can use the gtkpod[2] software. [1] http://www.rockbox.org/ [2] http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Russell L. Harris wrote: Beware: Some of the larger Creative players require the use of software such as gnomad. But I think that this is not the case with the ZEN NANO PLUS (usb 2.0, 1000 Mbyte). True, although they lack .ogg support and you have to put .wav files in a special directory to play them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On Monday 16 April 2007 10:24, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. I had almost the same specs in mind when I bought my SanDisk Sansa m240. They've come down in price since I bought mine, and you should be able to find a used one pretty easily. I've got the 1GB and it works great. Does not play .ogg files, but I use the Transcribe script in Amarok to transfer them. Works great. Decent battery life on the single AAA. Rob Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On 4/16/07, Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. In addition to what everyone else already said, don't forget about the possibility of using a portable music player that has removable storage (SD, etc) and you can use that memory for multiple purposes. Plus you can upgrade your memory or swap cards whenever you feel like it if you have more than one. I use my SD card with a Treo 650 and PocketTunes as well as portable document storage and transfer. Dusty -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:01:55 +0200, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. Hi folks, Thanks for the help. Looks like I have some followup research to do. I should clarify what I mean by cheap: less than $20 or $30 is my goal. So, I'll do some trolling around eBay. Take care, Reid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: I ended up with an Iriver T30. It's like 59.95 at Sears on a 50% off (I think the retail was about 119.95). It's a gig, with decent battery life, very small, but still usable. It's not as easy as expected to sync it with linux. It uses a microsoft protocol. There is a way to flash the bios in the device to make it look just like a USB mass storage device, play ogg files, etc. But that flashing process requires Windows. I don't have windows. But the device does play ogg files out of the box. Oddly enough, if I plug it in, konqueror upens it up and I can see the files. I just can't write to the device (drop files on the folder representing the USB device). So, the preferred method (at least for me), involving amarok and connecting right to the media player (absent some Ruby scripts?) is not possible. The workaround is to use front-ends from libmtp (somewhere on sourceforge SVN) and use commands like 'mtp-connect --sendfile from the command line. It works well enough. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. aaa x1. Reid -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: I have a Sandisk e140, with 1 gb onboard, and uses up to a 2GB SD-card in the side. Shows up as two disks, no special software needed to copy mp3's and the like. Supports using it as a portable hard drive as well. I believe it's limited to 2GB maximum on the SD card though, as it's a standard FAT16 format. Uses a single AAA battery, and that lasts something like 15 hours, also can be run off the USB port if you modify a cable to not have data pins, or use one of those wallplug to USB adapters. It also has a cheap FM tuner built in. Believe they're well under $100 nowadays, if they're still made. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
Try the Sandisk Sansa e200's they run from 1 to 8gb so they might hit your price point somewhere along the way, don't use alkalines, but there is a user replacable li-ion battery. Also, rockbox.org just realeased their firmware replacement in march for the e200 line. I've only had mine for a couple of months but no issues so far. On 4/16/07, Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. Do you all have any suggestions? Many thanks for any help, Reid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -jmg -sapere aude
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
* Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070416 13:28]: I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. The smaller Creative players are tiny, rugged, reliable, have excellent audio quality, and transfer files without special software (I use cp or midnight commander). They are inexpensive: $50 to $100 list price. They use a single AAA cell and typically run longer than other brands of players. MUVO TX :: usb 2.0, 256 Mbyte MUVO TX FM :: usb 2.0, good FM tuner Beware: Some of the larger Creative players require the use of software such as gnomad. But I think that this is not the case with the ZEN NANO PLUS (usb 2.0, 1000 Mbyte). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Need to carry around 750 songs? (was Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 11:40, Mike Dresser wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: I have a Sandisk e140, with 1 gb onboard, and uses up to a 2GB SD-card in the side. Shows up as two disks, no special software needed to copy mp3's and the like. Supports using it as a portable hard drive as well. I believe it's limited to 2GB maximum on the SD card though, as it's a standard FAT16 format. 3GB will hold 750 4MB songs. Is the user interface so efficient that it's simple to work with them? How do you remember what's in all those playlists? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGI9B3S9HxQb37XmcRArUMAKDOq61BNFmmjd1wcAe8P3k5rOjIgQCg68cj 9nyWRL9drY82zEUat1/+8TU= =efWf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Need to carry around 750 songs? (was Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?)
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: 3GB will hold 750 4MB songs. Is the user interface so efficient that it's simple to work with them? How do you remember what's in all those playlists? It's decent enough, you can select by artist, album, songs, favorites, genre, year, spoken word.. i just put mine on shuffle and hit next if i don't like the song at that particular moment. it goes by id3 tags for the above, so if your tags are inaccurate, you're stuck.. i don't remember if it can guess by the song titles or not. with 2gb sd cards being under 20 bucks, it seemed a better idea than having a fixed size player, and the thing was onsale for fairly cheap Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Russell L. Harris wrote: * Reid Priedhorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070416 13:28]: I would like to get an MP3 player to use with my Lenny box. My specs are few but perhaps odd: - Cheap. - Used OK. - 512MB or larger OK. - Uses AAA or AA batteries, preferably 2. The smaller Creative players are tiny, rugged, reliable, have excellent audio quality, and transfer files without special software (I use cp or midnight commander). They are inexpensive: $50 to $100 list price. They use a single AAA cell and typically run longer than other brands of players. MUVO TX :: usb 2.0, 256 Mbyte MUVO TX FM :: usb 2.0, good FM tuner Beware: Some of the larger Creative players require the use of software such as gnomad. And the gnomad in Debian is borked! You need to compile your own, but then it just works. It almost work with libmtp in amarok and konqueror, you can erease files and list stuff, but not upload new files ;-) That stops being fun rather quick. /Magnus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:47:45 +0200 Magnus Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the gnomad in Debian is borked! You need to compile your own, but then it just works. It almost work with libmtp in amarok and konqueror, you can erease files and list stuff, but not upload new files ;-) That stops being fun rather quick. That seems to mirror my experiences with the iriver T30. Question - would getting gnomad make life any easier? I guess I can give it a try. I wonder if we just have to wait for a beefier libmtp. Either that, or better integration with it and Amarok and other methods. It seems strange that reading (and deleting) would be supported but not writing new files (after all, a delete is a sort of write, isn't it?) Of course, having a better mp3 player is an option, just not one for me at present. Interesting thing about libmtp - I stumbled across it after reading a writeup about the Iriver T30 linux, suggesting that it be interfaced similarly to what gphoto2 does with certain cameras that aren't UMS capable. Having had similar issues with such a device last year, a light bulb went off in my head and I started looking in more detail. After all, it came to be a fruitful search, as I was about to return the item as non-working to the store. /Magnus -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommend inexpensive MP3 player?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:57:57 -0700 David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems to mirror my experiences with the iriver T30. Question - would getting gnomad make life any easier? I guess I can give it a try. Bad form to followup to myself, but gnomad2 does seem to work with the iriver T30.. woot! ;) -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
