Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Florian Ernst wrote:
 MicheleM wrote:
  all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
  loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
  [...]
  But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.
 
 lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have
 prompted you about this, unless it was configured otherwise.
 
 What does
 | # grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
 say?

I upgraded a machine running lilo and debconf mailed me the following
information:

  Subject: Debconf: Configuring lilo -- Deprecated parameters in LILO 
configuration

  Deprecated files have been found on your system. You must update the
  'install=' parameter in your LILO configuration file (/etc/lilo.conf) in
  order to properly upgrade the package.

  The new 'install=' options are:

   new: install=bmp
   old: install=/boot/boot-bmp.b

   new: install=text
   old: install=/boot/boot-text.b

   new: install=menu
   old: install=/boot/boot-menu.b or boot.b

  --
  Debconf, running at discord.proulx.com
  [ Debconf was not configured to display this note, so it mailed it to you. ]

Reading that message I took care of the problem (by installing grub)
before rebooting the system.  But I can't help but wonder if something
similar occurred with the original poster?  It was mailed to me
because I had set my debconf to 'critical' only and so it was
prevented from showing me a dialog box.  Although for something like
this it would justify a critical rating.

Bob


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what 
happened to a server I admin remotely.  When I upgraded to the new 
stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore 
rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done.


Hopefully someone reported a bug report on this against LILO since 
Monday. Since no changes to the kernel should have affected LILO's boot 
configuration, it should have had no trouble booting up.


Why do I have LILO running in the first place?  When I installed from 
the Woody CD a year ago, that's all that was offered to me.  I wasn't 
aware, at the time, of the problems known to occur with LILO and so 
didn't install grub.  Now that I live a couple hundred miles from this 
machine, but  continue to admin it, I wouldn't dare attempt to install a 
new boot loader unless I was physically present.


Clinton


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss

This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what
happened to a server I admin remotely.  When I upgraded to the new
stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore
rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done.

Hopefully someone reported a bug report on this against LILO since
Monday. Since no changes to the kernel should have affected LILO's boot
configuration, it should have had no trouble booting up.

Why do I have LILO running in the first place?  When I installed from
the Woody CD a year ago, that's all that was offered to me.  I wasn't
aware, at the time, of the problems known to occur with LILO and so
didn't install grub.  Now that I live a couple hundred miles from this
machine, but  continue to admin it, I wouldn't dare attempt to install a
new boot loader unless I was physically present.

Clinton


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss

This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what
happened to a server I admin remotely.  When I upgraded to the new
stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore
rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done.

Hopefully someone reported a bug report on this against LILO since
Monday. Since no changes to the kernel should have affected LILO's boot
configuration, it should have had no trouble booting up.

Why do I have LILO running in the first place?  When I installed from
the Woody CD a year ago, that's all that was offered to me.  I wasn't
aware, at the time, of the problems known to occur with LILO and so
didn't install grub.  Now that I live a couple hundred miles from this
machine, but  continue to admin it, I wouldn't dare attempt to install a
new boot loader unless I was physically present.

Clinton


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-10 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello again,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:54:32PM -0700, MicheleM wrote:
 this is the output:
 
 anjuna:~# grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
 Name: lilo/runme
 Template: lilo/runme
 Owners: lilo
 
 [...]
 no more.

Hm, strange, to me it looks like this question was never asked. I
guess it's best to ask the lilo maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about this, or you could send a bugreport against upgrade-reports...

I personally don't use lilo myself, so I wouldn't dare venture any
deeper into this problem.

Cheers,
Flo


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello *,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:23:39AM -0700, MicheleM wrote:
 yesterday I tried to upgrade my Woody production server to Sarge after
 reading and following step by step the relase notes under:
 http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
 
 all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
 loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
 No way to boot the machine. I solved the problem with a knoppix live
 cd, I mounted the root partition, chrooted into it, mounted /boot
 partition and run lilo.
 After reboot the server was uprunning.
 
 But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.
 [...]
 I made a typescript's upgrade too but I don't think it's notable, of
 course you'll can ask me it.

lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have
prompted you about this, unless it was configured otherwise.

What does
| # grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
say?


Cheers,
Flo


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:08:08PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
 Hello *,
 
  
  all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
  loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
  No way to boot the machine. I solved the problem with a knoppix live
  cd, I mounted the root partition, chrooted into it, mounted /boot
  partition and run lilo.
  After reboot the server was uprunning.
  
  But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.
  [...]
  I made a typescript's upgrade too but I don't think it's notable, of
  course you'll can ask me it.
 
 lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have
 prompted you about this, unless it was configured otherwise.
 
 What does
 | # grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
 say?
 
Why do people insist on using LILO?  Just install grub, set it up once
with symlinks and *never* mess with it again.  In case anyone cares,
here is my configuration:

default 0
timeout 5
color cyan/blue white/blue
title   Debian GNU/Linux
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=normal ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux (recovery mode)
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro single vga=normal ide0=ata66 
ide1=ata66
boot
title   Debian GNU/Linux, OLD
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=normal ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux, OLD (recovery mode)
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 ro single vga=normal ide0=ata66 
ide1=ata66
boot

I installed it *one* time to the MBR.  I have only since had to mess
with it to replace the failed harddrive in the machine.  If you have
/boot on a separate partition, as I do, you will want to add
'do_symlinks = No' to /etc/kernel-img.conf.  Trust me on this.  It is
really nice to have a boot loader that can actually read your filesystem.

-Roberto

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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello *,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 04:46:32PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 Why do people insist on using LILO?  Just install grub, [...]

Advocacy is one thing, trying to find out why a bug has occurred
another. Let's try not to mix things up.

Cheers,
Flo


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread MicheleM
Hi Flo,
this is the output:

anjuna:~# grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
Name: lilo/runme
Template: lilo/runme
Owners: lilo

Name: lilo/upgrade
Template: lilo/upgrade
Owners: lilo

I grep the upgrade's typescript searching for the lilo prompt but this
is what I found:

anjuna:~# cat /backup/typescript |grep lilo
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
Get:493 http://debian.fastweb.it sarge/main lilo 1:22.6.1-6.2 [343kB]
Get:494 http://debian.fastweb.it sarge/main mbr 1.1.5-2 [20.4kB]
Preparing to replace lilo 1:22.2-3 (using
.../lilo_1%3a22.6.1-6.2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lilo ...
Setting up lilo (22.6.1-6.2) ...

no more.

thanks Flo

Mik


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