Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-31 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:30:31PM -0500, Randy Rodriguez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Jacob S. wrote:

 Let's not forget Big Brother
 http://www.bb4.com
 Easier to set up than Nagios, more extensible too.  Good community of 
 developers and users for support.

 They have a license the call the Better Than Free License (BTFL). 
 Basically, if you sell a service that incorporates BB, you have to 
 purchase a license, otherwise it's free.  As per the page: Simply put, 
 if Big Brother is helping you or someone else (in the case of 
 outsourcing) make money then you'll need to get a commercial license.

That's not DFSG, OSI Open Source, or FSF Free Software free.

Me?  I'd avoid backing myself into that corner.


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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 05:30:31PM -0500, Randy Rodriguez wrote:
 Jacob S. wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:01:33 -0500
 Randy Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let's not forget Big Brother
 http://www.bb4.com
 Easier to set up than Nagios, more extensible too.  Good community of 
 developers and users for support.
 
 I saw that one when I was looking. Did I misunderstand something, or is
 it not free software? (free as in food and/or free as in speech)
 
 They have a license the call the Better Than Free License (BTFL). 
 Basically, if you sell a service that incorporates BB, you have to 
 purchase a license, otherwise it's free.  As per the page: Simply put, 
 if Big Brother is helping you or someone else (in the case of 
 outsourcing) make money then you'll need to get a commercial license.
 
 Monitoring your own servers in house, free.  Monitoring a client's 
 servers, in house or remote, commercial.

Calling that Better Than Free seems like a horrible misnomer. It might
be better for *them*.

(To answer Jacob S.'s question, no, it's not free as in speech.)

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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-15 Thread Wolfgang Lonien
Jacob S. wrote:

 Does anyone have some good scripts (or know of a progam, though I
 suspect that's overkill) for having an automated process that
 periodically runs to make sure a server is still alive?
 
 If the server were running the other os, I think an occasional ping
 would be good enough, but I've seen a Linux server lose it's hard drive
 and still answer pings before. :-)

Hi Jacob,

you could also have a look at cacti, together with Tobi Oetikers' rrdtool -
both are free, and you can monitor other hosts as if they were 'under your
fingertips' ;-)

apt-get install cacti

should get you started.

HTH,
wjl aka Wolfgang Lonien


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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-15 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Wolfgang Lonien [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Jacob S. wrote:
 
  Does anyone have some good scripts (or know of a progam, though I
  suspect that's overkill) for having an automated process that
  periodically runs to make sure a server is still alive?
  
  If the server were running the other os, I think an occasional ping
  would be good enough, but I've seen a Linux server lose it's hard drive
  and still answer pings before. :-)
 

Nagios, Big Brother, Big Sister, and others are good for Go/No Go
checking of hosts' and servers' aliveness.  I am most familiar with
Nagios.  It can take actions on detected problems like e-mail an alert
to your cellphone/pager.  It saved my system once.  I turned off the
A/C to clean the outdoor exchanger.  Forgot to turn it back on.  Went
into town to write and sip a latte.  In about an hour I received the
temperature warning message, halfway home I received the temperature
critical message.  Made it home with the ambient temperature over 90F
and the CPU temperature in the mid 50C's (130F's).  60C is about all
the manufacturer warrants.

Nagios will ping hosts.  Connect to HTTP, SMTP, IMAP, POP,
etc. servers. Query SNMP agents. And run scripts.  Nice.

HTH,
  Jeffrey


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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-14 Thread Russ Schneider
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Jacob S. wrote:

 Does anyone have some good scripts (or know of a progam, though I
 suspect that's overkill) for having an automated process that
 periodically runs to make sure a server is still alive?
 
 If the server were running the other os, I think an occasional ping
 would be good enough, but I've seen a Linux server lose it's hard drive
 and still answer pings before. :-)

http://www.nagios.org/

Nagios is a host and service monitor designed to inform you of network 
problems before your clients, end-users or managers do. It has been 
designed to run under the Linux operating system, but works fine under 
most *NIX variants as well. The monitoring daemon runs intermittent checks 
on hosts and services you specify using external plugins which return 
status information to Nagios. When problems are encountered, the daemon 
can send notifications out to administrative contacts in a variety of 
different ways (email, instant message, SMS, etc.). Current status 
information, historical logs, and reports can all be accessed via a web 
browser.

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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-14 Thread Jacob S.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:30:34 -0500 (EST)
Russ Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Jacob S. wrote:
 
  Does anyone have some good scripts (or know of a progam, though I
  suspect that's overkill) for having an automated process that
  periodically runs to make sure a server is still alive?
  
  If the server were running the other os, I think an occasional ping
  would be good enough, but I've seen a Linux server lose it's hard
  drive and still answer pings before. :-)
 
 http://www.nagios.org/
snip

Thanks, Russ.

That looks exactly like the type of thing I'm looking for. And
definitely better than I could script in a couple hours. :-)

Thanks again,
Jacob

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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-14 Thread Randy Rodriguez
Jacob S. wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:30:34 -0500 (EST)
Russ Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Jacob S. wrote:

snip
http://www.nagios.org/
snip

Thanks, Russ.

That looks exactly like the type of thing I'm looking for. And
definitely better than I could script in a couple hours. :-)
Thanks again,
Jacob
Let's not forget Big Brother
http://www.bb4.com
Easier to set up than Nagios, more extensible too.  Good community of 
developers and users for support.

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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-14 Thread Jacob S.
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:01:33 -0500
Randy Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Let's not forget Big Brother
 http://www.bb4.com
 Easier to set up than Nagios, more extensible too.  Good community of 
 developers and users for support.

I saw that one when I was looking. Did I misunderstand something, or is
it not free software? (free as in food and/or free as in speech)

Thanks,
Jacob

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Re: Remote health test for servers?

2004-01-14 Thread Randy Rodriguez
Jacob S. wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:01:33 -0500
Randy Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's not forget Big Brother
http://www.bb4.com
Easier to set up than Nagios, more extensible too.  Good community of 
developers and users for support.


I saw that one when I was looking. Did I misunderstand something, or is
it not free software? (free as in food and/or free as in speech)
They have a license the call the Better Than Free License (BTFL). 
Basically, if you sell a service that incorporates BB, you have to 
purchase a license, otherwise it's free.  As per the page: Simply put, 
if Big Brother is helping you or someone else (in the case of 
outsourcing) make money then you'll need to get a commercial license.

Monitoring your own servers in house, free.  Monitoring a client's 
servers, in house or remote, commercial.

Thanks,
Jacob
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