Re: S3, S3V, or XF86_SVGA server
...ok, so sometimes I let my email ripen a bit before sending it... On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 12:26:37PM +1200, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: Heather wrote: ...or whichever. That is, if you insist on using the SVGA builtin instead of XF86_S3 or _S3V as applicable. Hi, I have a S3 Virge/MX chipset in my system, Is this a laptop or desktop? I'm confused. so I happened to read through the XFree site about that recently. In the section on the 3.3.6 server, on page: http://www.XFree.org/3.3.6/S3V1.html#1 they say this: 1. Supported hardware Since release 3.3.2 of XFree86, there are now two servers which support the ViRGE family of chips. The XF86_S3V server is a dedicated server which supports the S3 ViRGE (86C325), the ViRGE/DX (86C375), ViRGE/GX (86C385) and the ViRGE/VX (86C988) chips. Use of that server is no longer recommended. It is not actively being supported anymore. The above ViRGE chipsets are supported in the XF86_SVGA server, which includes a new ViRGE driver making use of the XAA acceleration architecture and also supports ViRGE/GX2 (86C357), ViRGE/MX (86C260), Trio3D (86C365), Trio3D/2X (86C362), Savage3D (86C391), Savage4 (86C396/86C397) and Savage2000 chips as of 3.3.6. On that basis, it seems the XF86_SVGA server is the right one for the Savage chips, and it looks as though the XF86_S3V server is obsolete. That's what the docs say. YMMV. My experience, with an S3 ViRGE/VX chipset, was that the SVGA server was buggy -- I could fire of an X session fine, but if I tried launching a second X session -- either simultaneously or after closing the first, my system hung. The fix was to use the S3V X driver. This is documented in a series of Usenet posts I made at the time, starting here: http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=455098082 ...despite the usual preference for not carrying on conversations with yourself, I've had several posts over the years from folks who were very happy to find this information. One even mentioned that with two systems, and two ViRGE cards, same spec, from the same manufacturer, one worked with SVGA, the other didn't. Caveat emptor. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http:/www.netcom.com/~kmself What part of Gestalt don't you understand? http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgp8O2UQzq8i6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: S3, S3V, or XF86_SVGA server
On that basis, it seems the XF86_SVGA server is the right one for the Savage chips, and it looks as though the XF86_S3V server is obsolete. H, guess you're right on that. I was running a Savage4-based card in my system some weeks ago, and it only worked well with the SVGA server. We also tried that on a laptop system with Savage4 onboard and had severe problems there both running XF 3.3.6 or one of the S4-modified servers (as XF86_S3SAV by Creative which happens to be a patched XF3.3.3-SVGA-server) and, finally, got the machine working fine there with framebuffer support and the Framebuffer-X-Server... :)) Regards, Kris
RE: S3, S3V, or XF86_SVGA server
I'd be interested in any variants of the XF86_SVGA server for Savage cards that you've got ... X Windows is saying that I'm running a unrecognised S3 chipset ... then defaults to VGA server @ 640x480 Andrew -Original Message- From: rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 3:50 PM To: Bret Comstock Waldow Cc: Heather; Andrew McRobert; Debian-Users (E-mail); Debian-Laptop (E-mail) Subject: Re: S3, S3V, or XF86_SVGA server On that basis, it seems the XF86_SVGA server is the right one for the Savage chips, and it looks as though the XF86_S3V server is obsolete. H, guess you're right on that. I was running a Savage4-based card in my system some weeks ago, and it only worked well with the SVGA server. We also tried that on a laptop system with Savage4 onboard and had severe problems there both running XF 3.3.6 or one of the S4-modified servers (as XF86_S3SAV by Creative which happens to be a patched XF3.3.3-SVGA-server) and, finally, got the machine working fine there with framebuffer support and the Framebuffer-X-Server... :)) Regards, Kris
RE: S3, S3V, or XF86_SVGA server
On Mon, 15 May 2000, Andrew McRobert wrote: I'd be interested in any variants of the XF86_SVGA server for Savage cards that you've got ... X Windows is saying that I'm running a unrecognised S3 chipset ... then defaults to VGA server @ 640x480 Andrew Hello again, Personally, the first server I got my Savage card running with was the XF86_S3SAV which can be found at http://developer.creative.com/linux , filename is XF86_Savage4-1.0.tar.gz. This one's listed there as server for the Creative 3D Blaster which also has a Savage4 chipset on it, but, actually, my Diamond Stealth III worked fine with it. If that doesn't work, you'll find some other Savage-server at http://www.s3planet.force9.co.uk/sections/files/drivers/x/ ...where the current version was posted on May 12. Guess it's the latest Savage driver update I've known so far, especially since there aren't any XF4.0 driver files at the moment... : Hope this helps... If not, would you mind posting me something like a cat /proc/pci or at least the part from there where there's information about your display adapter? Has several Savage chipsets right now, and some are (at least to me) known to be a little difficult to handle even though they're listed as supported in the XF86 driver list... Okay Bye, have a nice day. :) Kris
