Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation:
> 
> Then it would only make sense to start with a program that a lot of people 
> already like and whose source is available (like LaTeX), and change it so it 
> can do everything you want it to accomplish.  Maybe give a Gui and call it 
> GooeyLaTex. :)

A GUI for LaTeX?  Who would have ever thought of such a thing?

http://www.lyx.org


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you want something free (speech) and works like Quark, try Scribus:
> http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/

There's a Debian package in unstable:

$ apt-cache show scribus
Package: scribus
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Installed-Size: 2444
Maintainer: Wolfgang Sourdeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.6-1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libjpeg62, liblcms (>= 1.08-1), libpng2(>=1.0.12), 
libqt2 (>= 3:2.3.1-1), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (>
= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), libtiff3g, xlibs (>> 4.1.0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), gs (>= 
5.50) | gs-aladdin (>= 5.50), xfonts-scalable | g
sfonts-x11
Suggests: scribus-doc-en, scribus-doc-de, scribus-doc-fr
Filename: pool/main/s/scribus/scribus_0.6-1_i386.deb
Size: 816480
MD5sum: 953b346499051fb1f222c3a180123204
Description: a free software desktop publishing program
 Scribus is a free software layout program for GNU/Linux similar to a
 couple of proprietary programs from Adobe and Quark.
 .
 Unlike other programs Scribus uses only Type1 fonts of the X-Server.
 Therefore there is no fiddling around with installing extra fonts. For
 this reason the number of fonts is a little bit limited, but you can be
 sure that your monitor shows exactly the same as the printed output is.
 .
 Documentation for this package is available in either French, German or
 English. Please choose your appropriate scribus-doc-XX documentation package.


Greetings,
joachim


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[ben]

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 03:07 pm, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Soul Computer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > This raises an interesting question for WP8.  Did they ever release
> > the source for it so it could be repaired?
>
> Of course not.  Actually, I'm not even sure Corel _has_ the
> source... development on the Unix WPs prior to WPO2k was handled by
> SDCorp.

i wrote to corel back in january asking about the fate of wordperfect, and if 
they had any interest in releasing source for wp51--for which there really is 
no commercial market, anymore--into the community. all i got back was a 
generic response stating that wp8 and office 2000 were discontinued "with 
chances of renewal studied based on market demand." whether that meant, was, 
is being, or will be studied is apparently anybody's guess. no mention of 
source was made in any part of the reply. 

corel strikes me as a pretty schizophrenic organization, given their 
on-again, off-again relationship to linux; which is a shame, since wp8 was 
way less of a memory hog than staroffice and far more flexible than abiword.

ben


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Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Bud Rogers]

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 19:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Then it would only make sense to start with a program that a lot of 
people already like and whose source is available (like LaTeX), and 
change it so it can do everything you want it to accomplish.  Maybe 
give a Gui and call it GooeyLaTex. :)

You might be interested in LyX 

http://www.lyx.org

If you like KDE, you might be interested in KLyX

http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_5305.html

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Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[scwawcaac]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:07:44 -0400 Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Soul Computer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This raises an interesting question for WP8.  Did they ever release
> the source for it so it could be repaired?

Of course not.  Actually, I'm not even sure Corel _has_ the
source... development on the Unix WPs prior to WPO2k was handled by
SDCorp.

==

Then it would only make sense to start with a program that a lot of people 
already like and whose source is available (like LaTeX), and change it so it 
can do everything you want it to accomplish.  Maybe give a Gui and call it 
GooeyLaTex. :)

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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Alan Shutko]

Soul Computer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This raises an interesting question for WP8.  Did they ever release
> the source for it so it could be repaired?

Of course not.  Actually, I'm not even sure Corel _has_ the
source... development on the Unix WPs prior to WPO2k was handled by
SDCorp.

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Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Soul Computer]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:25:49 -0400 Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

craigw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I found four CD's containing WP8:

[...]

> 
>
> It doesn't really say what format they are, perhaps they have various
> formats. I think it should be safe to assume that the last one should
> contain the deb file, even if the others don't.

Yes, and that's the one you want.  That version has a bunch of fixes
that were never available anywhere else, even to people who paid a
couple hundred bucks for the server edition.

==

This raises an interesting question for WP8.  Did they ever release the source 
for it so it could be repaired?

->Scwawcaac<-
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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Alan Shutko]

craigw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I found four CD's containing WP8:

[...]

> 
>
> It doesn't really say what format they are, perhaps they have various
> formats. I think it should be safe to assume that the last one should
> contain the deb file, even if the others don't.

Yes, and that's the one you want.  That version has a bunch of fixes
that were never available anywhere else, even to people who paid a
couple hundred bucks for the server edition.

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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[craigw]

On Wed Apr 24, 2002 at 11:45:55AM -0600, dave mallery wrote:
> > 
> > 
> i had bought corel office 2000 ($100) and was absolutely unable to get it 
> to function with any stability on r/h 7.2.  support was wishful thinking.

Corel Office was abandoned long before rh7.2 came out. Much has changed.
Funny how WP8 is still better

> i have used v7 for ages on another 7.1 box but could not get it to run 
> either on later versions.  
> 
> the big pain is that i have all kinds of important list-related stuff on 
> the word 7 system.  

what is v7? what is word 7?

>i was bracing myself for a long and painful transition 
> to star office 6 next month.
> 
That would be a good idea. You still should.

> is that deb anywhere other than on your cd???
> 

I found four CD's containing WP8:






It doesn't really say what format they are, perhaps they have various
formats. I think it should be safe to assume that the last one should
contain the deb file, even if the others don't.

I also found the tar.gz available for download:



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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Bob Nielsen]

On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 11:45:55AM -0600, dave mallery wrote:
> > 
> > After Corel Linux 1.0 had been out a while, I saw some copies at my
> > local Costco warehouse for ~$25 (US).  It included WP 8.1 with a hefty
> > manual as well as a nice little Tux figure which I have sitting on top
> > of my computer (I tossed the rest of the package).  WP 8.1 is in
> > .deb format (wp-full 8.1-12) and runs just fine on my woody system.  It
> > does not require wine, but depends on both libc5 and libc6, which I
> > find a bit strange:
> > 
> > Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0), libc6, xlib6g, type1inst
> > 
> hi
> 
> i had bought corel office 2000 ($100) and was absolutely unable to get it 
> to function with any stability on r/h 7.2.  support was wishful thinking.
> i have used v7 for ages on another 7.1 box but could not get it to run 
> either on later versions.  
> 
> the big pain is that i have all kinds of important list-related stuff on 
> the word 7 system.  i was bracing myself for a long and painful transition 
> to star office 6 next month.
> 
> is that deb anywhere other than on your cd???


It may have been in a version of Office prior to Office 2000.  Corel
did have a free version of WP 8.0 for a while, but it was a bit buggy
and required a lot of libc5 stuff.

Have you tried Abiword?  It handles a lot of Word documents fairly well
(better than WP does).

Bob


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[dave mallery]

> 
> After Corel Linux 1.0 had been out a while, I saw some copies at my
> local Costco warehouse for ~$25 (US).  It included WP 8.1 with a hefty
> manual as well as a nice little Tux figure which I have sitting on top
> of my computer (I tossed the rest of the package).  WP 8.1 is in
> .deb format (wp-full 8.1-12) and runs just fine on my woody system.  It
> does not require wine, but depends on both libc5 and libc6, which I
> find a bit strange:
> 
> Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0), libc6, xlib6g, type1inst
> 
hi

i had bought corel office 2000 ($100) and was absolutely unable to get it 
to function with any stability on r/h 7.2.  support was wishful thinking.
i have used v7 for ages on another 7.1 box but could not get it to run 
either on later versions.  

the big pain is that i have all kinds of important list-related stuff on 
the word 7 system.  i was bracing myself for a long and painful transition 
to star office 6 next month.

is that deb anywhere other than on your cd???

thank you

dave

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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Alan Shutko]

craigw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The download version is a full-featured WordPerfect, not crippled or
> time limited.

Well, not quite.  AFAIR, it did not include the font installer and was
limited to fonts it came with (which is crippling in my view).  It was
also based on an earlier code base than the "8.1" which came with
Corel Linux OS.  The version with Corel Linux OS fixed a number of
bugs, specifically really bad performance with images.

That said, it was a better version for authoring than WPO2k/Linux, but
worse at Word imports.

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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[craigw]

On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 03:52:28PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 11:30:35AM -0700, craigw wrote:
> > On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 09:27:28AM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
> > > David Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > > They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> > > > run on Linux here is the link:  
> > > 
> > > A bit more research would show that these products are essentially
> > > abandoned by Corel, have seen no bug-fix releases to reduce the huge
> > > amount of bugs therein, and work best under a version of corelwine for
> > > which you can no longer find the sources.
> > > 
> > > 
> > This answer (David's not Alan's) was so funny I fell out of my chair 
> > laughing. First of all it's not Correll Office 2002, it's Corel's
> > WordPerfect Office 2000. And as Alan pointed out, it was abandoned long
> > ago. Which is a damn shame, because there was potentially a very fine
> > product there, but it needed a lot of work. To get it running on a
> > recent Linux distro you will probably need to do some work; install
> > corelwine or some other compatible wine, maybe even libc5-compat or
> > a couple things like that, but even if you ran it on Corel Linux, it was
> > so buggy as to be, well, maybe not unusable but extremely annoying.
> 
> After Corel Linux 1.0 had been out a while, I saw some copies at my
> local Costco warehouse for ~$25 (US).  It included WP 8.1 with a hefty
> manual as well as a nice little Tux figure which I have sitting on top
> of my computer (I tossed the rest of the package).  WP 8.1 is in
> .deb format (wp-full 8.1-12) and runs just fine on my woody system.  It
> does not require wine, but depends on both libc5 and libc6, which I
> find a bit strange:
> 
> Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0), libc6, xlib6g, type1inst
> 
> 
> 
Yes, in fact I have WordPerfect 8 and it is a perfectly good program,
partly because it was ported to linux. There is another little helper
available (not a necessity) called wp8filtrixfix that helps improve its
M$Word importing:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/wp8fix/

Unfortunately when they came out with the whole office suite it was
ported to Wine rather than truly ported to Linux, and it is very
problematic.

If anyone is interested in wordperfect8 you can find it thru google, but
it may take some work. AFAIK, it is not available any longer as a
download from Corel. However, they still give you a registration number
at their website, and it is a very quick & easy setup, you fill out the
form & get the number right there, not emailed later. The download
version is a full-featured WordPerfect, not crippled or time limited.

P.S. here's one place:
http://cyberbuzz.gatech.edu/kaboom/linux/WP8-personal.tar.gz>Yes, in
fact I have WordPerfect 8 and it is a perfectly good program, partly
because it was ported to linux. There is another little helper available
(not a necessity) called wp8filtrixfix that helps improve its M$Word
importing:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/wp8fix/

Unfortunately when they came out with the whole office suite it was
ported to Wine rather than truly ported to Linux, and it is very
problematic.

If anyone is interested in wordperfect8 you can find it thru google, but
it may take some work. AFAIK, it is not available any longer as a
download from Corel. However, they still give you a registration number
at their website, and it is a very quick & easy setup, you fill out the
form & get the number right there, not emailed later. The download
version is a full-featured WordPerfect, not crippled or time limited.

P.S. here's one place:



or on CD for only $1 wow!:


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 11:30:35AM -0700, craigw wrote:
> On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 09:27:28AM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
> > David Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> > > run on Linux here is the link:  
> > 
> > A bit more research would show that these products are essentially
> > abandoned by Corel, have seen no bug-fix releases to reduce the huge
> > amount of bugs therein, and work best under a version of corelwine for
> > which you can no longer find the sources.
> > 
> > 
> This answer (David's not Alan's) was so funny I fell out of my chair 
> laughing. First of all it's not Correll Office 2002, it's Corel's
> WordPerfect Office 2000. And as Alan pointed out, it was abandoned long
> ago. Which is a damn shame, because there was potentially a very fine
> product there, but it needed a lot of work. To get it running on a
> recent Linux distro you will probably need to do some work; install
> corelwine or some other compatible wine, maybe even libc5-compat or
> a couple things like that, but even if you ran it on Corel Linux, it was
> so buggy as to be, well, maybe not unusable but extremely annoying.

After Corel Linux 1.0 had been out a while, I saw some copies at my
local Costco warehouse for ~$25 (US).  It included WP 8.1 with a hefty
manual as well as a nice little Tux figure which I have sitting on top
of my computer (I tossed the rest of the package).  WP 8.1 is in
.deb format (wp-full 8.1-12) and runs just fine on my woody system.  It
does not require wine, but depends on both libc5 and libc6, which I
find a bit strange:

Depends: libc5 (>= 5.4.0-0), libc6, xlib6g, type1inst

Bob


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Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Shawn McMahon]

begin  Soul Computer quotation:
> 
> If you want something free (speech) and works like Quark, try Scribus:
> http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/
> 
> If you want something free and works a bit like FrameMaker, try KWord (a
> KDE project).

And, if you just want to write a professional-looking document and are
more concerned with making good content than screwing around with
formatting, use LaTeX or Lyx.


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Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Soul Computer]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 01:59:21 +0800 csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT)
"David Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I've seen comments from people in the field that Linux is definitely
> > just "not there yet". Others prefer TeX, LaTeX, etc, and those will
> > swear by them & say it's the only way.
> > If you want something like PageMaker, Quark, or whatever, I think
> > you'll have to wait. Adobe FrameMaker is available for Unix, but AFAIK
> > it's just on Solaris & a couple of the other "big" *nix's. 
> 
> If the "people" who made those comments had take 15 minutes (that's
> how long me to do a google search, and find Correl's Linux Product)
> to do a little web reseach.
> 
> They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> run on Linux here is the link:  

[link to dead product omitted]

If you want something free (speech) and works like Quark, try Scribus:
http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/

If you want something free and works a bit like FrameMaker, try KWord (a
KDE project).

They're not quite there, but at least they're going somewhere. And if
they aren't, well at least you have the source.


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I will try it.  It can't be any worse the Microsoft Publisher ...


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[Soul Computer]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:27:28 -0400 Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

David Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> run on Linux here is the link:  

A bit more research would show that these products are essentially
abandoned by Corel, have seen no bug-fix releases to reduce the huge
amount of bugs therein, and work best under a version of corelwine for
which you can no longer find the sources.

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I tend to agree with Alan ... I looked in to buying it, and they said I could 
not buy it from them, anymore! >:(


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[Soul Computer]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT) David Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Andy --


> I've seen comments from people in the field that Linux is definitely
> just "not there yet". Others prefer TeX, LaTeX, etc, and those will
> swear by them & say it's the only way.
> If you want something like PageMaker, Quark, or whatever, I think
> you'll have to wait. Adobe FrameMaker is available for Unix, but AFAIK
> it's just on Solaris & a couple of the other "big" *nix's. 

If the "people" who made those comments had take 15 minutes (that's
how long me to do a google search, and find Correl's Linux Product)
to do a little web reseach.

They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
run on Linux here is the link:  

http://linux.corel.com/products/


David
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Apparently, this is a heartier community than I could have possible imagined.  
I will look in to the link and see what I can learn! :D

->Scwawcaac<-


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[Soul Computer]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:42:53 -0700 craigw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon Apr 22, 2002 at 11:55:17PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:28:30PM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> > You can use LaTeX and associated programs to publish books, catalogs, data
> > sheets, e-commerce sites, etc.  Software cost $0.00.  Some learning
> > required.
> > 
> > -- 

-- 

I don't know anything about publishing and page layout, but since not
many have answered...

I've seen comments from people in the field that Linux is definitely
just "not there yet". Others prefer TeX, LaTeX, etc, and those will
swear by them & say it's the only way.

If you want something like PageMaker, Quark, or whatever, I think you'll
have to wait. Adobe FrameMaker is available for Unix, but AFAIK it's
just on Solaris & a couple of the other "big" *nix's. 

I saw something quite recently about a project to produce a Linux
competitor to theses type programs, but I don't think they've released
anything yet & unfortunately I forget the name.

There is also Deneba Canvas, and KDE's KWord probably claims to be in
this league.

-CraigW

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to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!"
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I will see what I can come up with.  Thank you for the pointers! :)

->Scwawcaac<-


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Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Soul Computer]

Well, then, by that assessment, I should have a usuable copy of The Bridge 
Community Newsletter within two or three days of the Linux Install.

->Scwawcaac<-

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:30:06 -0700 (PDT) David Smead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Andy,

Good advice when you have to start from scratch.  But with a directory
full of prototypes and macros which can be clicked into the source text
things get a lot easier.  If you can get a local expert to jumpstart you
then you'll be producing output in a few hours.

It took me five hours from the start of installation in 1985 to having a
printed copy of the first chapter of Living on 12 Volts with Ample Power.
After that I struggled for many hours tweaking and experimenting, but it
has been well worth the effort.

-- 
Sincerely,

David Smead
http://www.amplepower.com.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Andy Saxena wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:28:30PM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> > You can use LaTeX and associated programs to publish books, catalogs, data
> > sheets, e-commerce sites, etc.  Software cost $0.00.  Some learning
> > required.
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > David Smead
> > http://www.amplepower.com.
> >
>
> Just brew up a big pot of coffee before you begin learning Latex :-}.
>
> -Andy
>
>
>


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[craigw]

On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 09:27:28AM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
> David Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> > run on Linux here is the link:  
> 
> A bit more research would show that these products are essentially
> abandoned by Corel, have seen no bug-fix releases to reduce the huge
> amount of bugs therein, and work best under a version of corelwine for
> which you can no longer find the sources.
> 
> 
This answer (David's not Alan's) was so funny I fell out of my chair 
laughing. First of all it's not Correll Office 2002, it's Corel's
WordPerfect Office 2000. And as Alan pointed out, it was abandoned long
ago. Which is a damn shame, because there was potentially a very fine
product there, but it needed a lot of work. To get it running on a
recent Linux distro you will probably need to do some work; install
corelwine or some other compatible wine, maybe even libc5-compat or
a couple things like that, but even if you ran it on Corel Linux, it was
so buggy as to be, well, maybe not unusable but extremely annoying.

P.S. I followed the link and noticed you can download Corel PhotoPaint9.
http://linux.corel.com/products/pp9/download_instructions.htm

I wonder if some of Corel's Linux projects are still alive...

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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[csj]

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT)
"David Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I've seen comments from people in the field that Linux is definitely
> > just "not there yet". Others prefer TeX, LaTeX, etc, and those will
> > swear by them & say it's the only way.
> > If you want something like PageMaker, Quark, or whatever, I think
> > you'll have to wait. Adobe FrameMaker is available for Unix, but AFAIK
> > it's just on Solaris & a couple of the other "big" *nix's. 
> 
> If the "people" who made those comments had take 15 minutes (that's
> how long me to do a google search, and find Correl's Linux Product)
> to do a little web reseach.
> 
> They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> run on Linux here is the link:  

[link to dead product omitted]

If you want something free (speech) and works like Quark, try Scribus:
http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/

If you want something free and works a bit like FrameMaker, try KWord (a
KDE project).

They're not quite there, but at least they're going somewhere. And if
they aren't, well at least you have the source.


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Alan Shutko]

David Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
> run on Linux here is the link:  

A bit more research would show that these products are essentially
abandoned by Corel, have seen no bug-fix releases to reduce the huge
amount of bugs therein, and work best under a version of corelwine for
which you can no longer find the sources.

-- 
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors!
You will probably marry after a very brief courtship.


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[David Jackson]

Andy --


> I've seen comments from people in the field that Linux is definitely
> just "not there yet". Others prefer TeX, LaTeX, etc, and those will
> swear by them & say it's the only way.
> If you want something like PageMaker, Quark, or whatever, I think
> you'll have to wait. Adobe FrameMaker is available for Unix, but AFAIK
> it's just on Solaris & a couple of the other "big" *nix's. 

If the "people" who made those comments had take 15 minutes (that's
how long me to do a google search, and find Correl's Linux Product)
to do a little web reseach.

They would have known that BOTH Correll Office 2002 and CorrellDraw
run on Linux here is the link:  

http://linux.corel.com/products/


David
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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[craigw]

On Mon Apr 22, 2002 at 11:55:17PM -0400, Andy Saxena wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:28:30PM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> > You can use LaTeX and associated programs to publish books, catalogs, data
> > sheets, e-commerce sites, etc.  Software cost $0.00.  Some learning
> > required.
> > 
> > -- 

-- 

I don't know anything about publishing and page layout, but since not
many have answered...

I've seen comments from people in the field that Linux is definitely
just "not there yet". Others prefer TeX, LaTeX, etc, and those will
swear by them & say it's the only way.

If you want something like PageMaker, Quark, or whatever, I think you'll
have to wait. Adobe FrameMaker is available for Unix, but AFAIK it's
just on Solaris & a couple of the other "big" *nix's. 

I saw something quite recently about a project to produce a Linux
competitor to theses type programs, but I don't think they've released
anything yet & unfortunately I forget the name.

There is also Deneba Canvas, and KDE's KWord probably claims to be in
this league.

-CraigW

"You stole fizzy lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has 
to be washed and sterilized, so you get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!"
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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[David Smead]

Andy,

Good advice when you have to start from scratch.  But with a directory
full of prototypes and macros which can be clicked into the source text
things get a lot easier.  If you can get a local expert to jumpstart you
then you'll be producing output in a few hours.

It took me five hours from the start of installation in 1985 to having a
printed copy of the first chapter of Living on 12 Volts with Ample Power.
After that I struggled for many hours tweaking and experimenting, but it
has been well worth the effort.

-- 
Sincerely,

David Smead
http://www.amplepower.com.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Andy Saxena wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:28:30PM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> > You can use LaTeX and associated programs to publish books, catalogs, data
> > sheets, e-commerce sites, etc.  Software cost $0.00.  Some learning
> > required.
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > David Smead
> > http://www.amplepower.com.
> >
>
> Just brew up a big pot of coffee before you begin learning Latex :-}.
>
> -Andy
>
>
>


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[Andy Saxena]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:28:30PM -0700, David Smead wrote:
> You can use LaTeX and associated programs to publish books, catalogs, data
> sheets, e-commerce sites, etc.  Software cost $0.00.  Some learning
> required.
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> David Smead
> http://www.amplepower.com.
> 

Just brew up a big pot of coffee before you begin learning Latex :-}.

-Andy


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Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux

[David Smead]

You can use LaTeX and associated programs to publish books, catalogs, data
sheets, e-commerce sites, etc.  Software cost $0.00.  Some learning
required.

-- 
Sincerely,

David Smead
http://www.amplepower.com.

On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Soul Computer wrote:

> I require a professional quality publishing package for Linux before I can 
> install the Operating System.  It mus be able to handle page layout for paper 
> publishing, preferably in a way like Q&A Write 3.0 for Windows by Symantec.  
> I understand that Word Perfect may be available to fill this need, but I 
> wanted to see if there was another application constructed to perform an 
> identical task in this environment.
>
> Also, we need to be able to use the modem.  How would it be set up once the 
> O/S is installed?
>
> ->Scwawcaac<-
>
>
>


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