Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Simo
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:14:31 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

  Hi all
 
  Sorry to response let!

 Please, keep the replies into the same thread, there is no need to open a
 new thread for every post :-)

 Sorry for that, I deleted by mistake the previous mails.


   I was busy with my ISP:
 
  please see below the NAT configuration for my Cisco Router done by my
  ISP:

 (...)

 Christian, having a computer connected to Internet 24 hours 365 days
 which provides remote services it can be very risky (and not only for you
 or your LAN but the whole of the Internet users) so I think you need
 first to get some of the basics about networking and routing to
 understand what is this all about and what do you need, at least for
 making your first tests.

 Thanks for this resume,
in fact, I set up a network using class A 10.0.0.0:
my LAN gateway is 10.0.0.2
 n1.kom.co.za and ns2.kom.co.za are the hostnames for 10.0.0.80 and
10.0.0.82
this two debian machines are my DNS bind server.

Please below the interfaces files congigurations:


iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.0.80
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 10.0.0.0
broadcast 10.0.0.255
gateway 10.0.0.2

# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if
installed
dns-nameservers 196.28.80.139 196.28.80.140
dns-search ns1.kom.co.za ns2.kom.co.za

iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.0.82
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 10.0.0.0
broadcast 10.0.0.255
gateway 10.0.0.2
# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if
installed
dns-nameservers 196.28.80.139 196.28.80.140
dns-search ns1.kom.co.za ns2.kom.co.za

this below are my hosts files configurations for 10.0.0.80 and 10.0.0.82:

127.0.0.1   localhost
10.0.0.82   ns1.kom.co.za ns1


127.0.0.1   localhost
10.0.0.82   ns2.kom.co.za ns2




 I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network layout,
 what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your site and what
 tests are you doing right know.

 The routers is a Cisco provide by my ISP  and I got 4 switch   D-LINK on
the network.

I said before, I planed to have two DNS server one as primary on 10.0.0.80
and another as slave on 10.0.0.82

my router IP is 41.134.19.89, 10.0.0.80 pointing on 41.134.19.90 with port
53 open and 10.0.0.82 pointing on 41.134.19.91 with ports 53 and 80 open.

See below my primary DNS configuration:

*File: /etc/bind/named.conf.local;*

zone kom.co.za IN {
type master;
file /var/cache/bind/master.kom.co.za;
notify yes;
};


zone 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa IN {
type master;
file /var/cache/bind/kom.co.za.inv;
};


*File: /var/cache/bind/master.kom.co.za :*

$ORIGIN kom.co.za.
$TTL 861000
@   IN  SOA ns1.kom.co.za.postmaster.kom.co.za. (
2011061001  ; serial
3600; refresh
900 ; retry
1209600 ; expire
13200)  ; default_TTL

IN  NS  ns1.kom.co.za.
IN  NS  ns2.kom.co.za.

IN  MX  10  mail.kom.co.za.

ns1 IN  A   10.0.0.80
ns2 IN  A   10.0.0.82
www IN  A   10.0.0.81
sql IN  A   10.0.0.81
mailIN  A   10.0.0.84
backup  IN  A   10.0.0.102
ftp IN  CNAME   www
imapIN  CNAME   mail
pop IN  CNAME   mail
pop3IN  CNAME   mail
smtpIN  CNAME   mail
img IN  CNAME   www

*File: /var/cache/bind/kom.co.za.inv*

$ORIGIN 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
$TTL 864000
@   IN  SOA ns1.kom.co.za.postmaster.kom.co.za. (
201105311   ; serial
3600; refresh
900 ; retry
1209600 ; expire
43200)  ; default_TTL

IN  NS  ns1.kom.co.za.
IN  NS  ns2.kom.co.za.

10.0.0.80.  IN  PTR ns1.kom.co.za.
10.0.0.82.  IN  PTR ns2.kom.co.za.
10.0.0.101. IN  PTR sql.kom.co.za.
10.0.0.102. IN  PTR backup.kom.co.za.





So please, let's concetrate in one service (dns server or http server or
 whatever you prefer) and now that your ISP has configured the routes to
 point to your local server you can start with your setup. So choose one
 service, configure it and put here any problems you have with that.

 When I tried to update kom.co.za domain from  co.za. administrator domain,
I received this errors:

Syntax/Cross-Checking provided info for Nameserver at 6a: ns1.kom.co.za @
41.134.19.90
IPv4: 41.134.19.90 == 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.
FQDN: ns1.kom.co.za 

Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:17:06 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)

 I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network
 layout, what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your
 site and what tests are you doing right know.

 The routers is a Cisco provide by my ISP  and I got 4 switch   D-LINK
 on the network.

Okay, so the only adsl gateway is the Cisco, that is controlled by your 
ISP.

 I said before, I planed to have two DNS server one as primary on
 10.0.0.80 and another as slave on 10.0.0.82
 
 my router IP is 41.134.19.89, 10.0.0.80 pointing on 41.134.19.90 with
 port 53 open and 10.0.0.82 pointing on 41.134.19.91 with ports 53 and 80
 open.
 
 See below my primary DNS configuration:

(...)

 When I tried to update kom.co.za domain from  co.za. administrator
 domain, I received this errors:
 
 Syntax/Cross-Checking provided info for Nameserver at 6a: ns1.kom.co.za
 @ 41.134.19.90
 IPv4: 41.134.19.90 == 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za. FQDN: ns1.kom.co.za
 ==
 ERROR: Checking field 6a and running a Reverse check. ns1.kom.co.za
 not found in 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.

 ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running a
 Reverse check...
 ! you specified that 41.134.19.90 would map to ns1.kom.co.za, ! but
 DNS returned 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.

What application is giving you that error?

It seems like a problem with your assigned IPs and reverve dns resolution 
(rDNS) that points to your domain name.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.12.13.10...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Simo
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:17:06 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

  On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 (...)

  I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network
  layout, what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your
  site and what tests are you doing right know.
 
  The routers is a Cisco provide by my ISP  and I got 4 switch   D-LINK
  on the network.

 Okay, so the only adsl gateway is the Cisco, that is controlled by your
 ISP.

 Yeah!


  I said before, I planed to have two DNS server one as primary on
  10.0.0.80 and another as slave on 10.0.0.82
 
  my router IP is 41.134.19.89, 10.0.0.80 pointing on 41.134.19.90 with
  port 53 open and 10.0.0.82 pointing on 41.134.19.91 with ports 53 and 80
  open.
 
  See below my primary DNS configuration:

 (...)

  When I tried to update kom.co.za domain from  co.za. administrator
  domain, I received this errors:
 
  Syntax/Cross-Checking provided info for Nameserver at 6a: ns1.kom.co.za
  @ 41.134.19.90
  IPv4: 41.134.19.90 == 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za. FQDN: ns1.kom.co.za
  ==
  ERROR: Checking field 6a and running a Reverse check. ns1.kom.co.za
  not found in 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.
 
  ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running a
  Reverse check...
  ! you specified that 41.134.19.90 would map to ns1.kom.co.za, ! but
  DNS returned 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.

 What application is giving you that error?

 There is not application that giving me the problem, it's a *.CO.ZA Domain
registrations  *http://www.coza.net.za

when I tried to update the domain kom.co.za, their (A .CO.ZA Domain
registry) server sent me an Invalid Nameserver errors

Telling that my name server (n1.kom.co.za and n2.kom.co.za) that I indicated
as a Primary and Slave servers FQDN are not pointing on 41.134.19.90 and
41.134.19.91 but pointing on 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za and 
41-134-19-91.dsl.mweb.co.za http://41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za/

I even emailed to my ISP the errors and still waiting for their responses.

what make me so strange is that I never login on the Cisco router to really
see how the configuration looks.

is it something's wrong with my Debian machine configurations?



 It seems like a problem with your assigned IPs and reverve dns resolution
 (rDNS) that points to your domain name.

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.12.13.10...@gmail.com




Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:32:09 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

  ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running
  a Reverse check...
  ! you specified that 41.134.19.90 would map to ns1.kom.co.za, !
  but DNS returned 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.

 What application is giving you that error?

 There is not application that giving me the problem, it's a *.CO.ZA
 Domain registrations  *http://www.coza.net.za

Uh? You mean the domain name registrar?
 
 when I tried to update the domain kom.co.za, their (A .CO.ZA Domain
 registry) server sent me an Invalid Nameserver errors
 
 Telling that my name server (n1.kom.co.za and n2.kom.co.za) that I
 indicated as a Primary and Slave servers FQDN are not pointing on
 41.134.19.90 and 41.134.19.91 but pointing on
 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za and  41-134-19-91.dsl.mweb.co.za
 http://41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za/
 
 I even emailed to my ISP the errors and still waiting for their
 responses.

I'm afraid you will have to wait for their response. Or forget about this 
setup and try with another one (e.g., use an external free DNS service to 
resolve your domain, like DynDNS or such).

If I correctly read the error message, your registrar needs that you 
domain name (n1.kom.co.za) is properly configured by the owner of the 
IPs, that is, your ISP.
 
 what make me so strange is that I never login on the Cisco router to
 really see how the configuration looks.

That's not the usual setup in many countries and having the control of 
your router is very useful as you don't need to wait a response from your 
ISP for every change you want to do.
 
 is it something's wrong with my Debian machine configurations?

Dunno, but one thing for sure: this is a complex setup.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.12.13.51...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Simo
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:32:09 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

  On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

   ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running
   a Reverse check...
   ! you specified that 41.134.19.90 would map to ns1.kom.co.za, !
   but DNS returned 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za.
 
  What application is giving you that error?
 
  There is not application that giving me the problem, it's a *.CO.ZA
  Domain registrations  *http://www.coza.net.za

 Uh? You mean the domain name registrar?

 Yeah!


  when I tried to update the domain kom.co.za, their (A .CO.ZA Domain
  registry) server sent me an Invalid Nameserver errors
 
  Telling that my name server (n1.kom.co.za and n2.kom.co.za) that I
  indicated as a Primary and Slave servers FQDN are not pointing on
  41.134.19.90 and 41.134.19.91 but pointing on
  41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za and  41-134-19-91.dsl.mweb.co.za
  http://41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za/
 
  I even emailed to my ISP the errors and still waiting for their
  responses.

 I'm afraid you will have to wait for their response. Or forget about this
 setup and try with another one (e.g., use an external free DNS service to
 resolve your domain, like DynDNS or such).

  On Monday, If not yet response, I much resend the mails to them, Before
decide to switch to the external DNS services.


 If I correctly read the error message, your registrar needs that you
 domain name (n1.kom.co.za) is properly configured by the owner of the
 IPs, that is, your ISP.

  what make me so strange is that I never login on the Cisco router to
  really see how the configuration looks.

 That's not the usual setup in many countries and having the control of
 your router is very useful as you don't need to wait a response from your
 ISP for every change you want to do.

 I don't know why there are doing like that,  I has been waiting for their
response since yesterday,
the thing that I know now is that the IPs 41.134.19.90 and 41.134.19.91 are
pointing to their  hostnames

 is it something's wrong with my Debian machine configurations?

 Dunno, but one thing for sure: this is a complex setup.

I know!



Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.12.13.51...@gmail.com




Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-11 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:14:31 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Sorry to response let!

Please, keep the replies into the same thread, there is no need to open a 
new thread for every post :-)
 
 I was busy with my ISP:
 
 please see below the NAT configuration for my Cisco Router done by my
 ISP:

(...)

Christian, having a computer connected to Internet 24 hours 365 days 
which provides remote services it can be very risky (and not only for you 
or your LAN but the whole of the Internet users) so I think you need 
first to get some of the basics about networking and routing to 
understand what is this all about and what do you need, at least for 
making your first tests.

I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network layout, 
what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your site and what 
tests are you doing right know.

So please, let's concetrate in one service (dns server or http server or 
whatever you prefer) and now that your ISP has configured the routes to 
point to your local server you can start with your setup. So choose one 
service, configure it and put here any problems you have with that.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.11.13.08...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-09 Thread Christian Simo
Good Morning all
eth0 it's not working so I'm using eth1!

I asked to my ISP to open all ports at the moment!

I also sent them a LAN IPs from 10.0.0.80 to 10.0.0.84 so that they can NAT
to my public IPs 41.134.19.90 to 41.134.19.94:
10.0.0.80  41.134.19.90
10.0.0.81  41.134.19.91
10.0.0.82  41.134.19.92
10.0.0.83  41.134.19.93
10.0.0.84  41.134.19.94

With this new configuration, I'm confusing if am gonna plug my machines
Debian directly to the Cisco router or just on my LAN?

since 10.0.0.2 was NAT to 41.134.19.89, Can I have a computer on my LAN with
that IP, because before it was my default gateway my billion router?





On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:34 PM, nhadie ramos nha...@gmail.com wrote:

 i would suggest you troubleshoot your network first. if you have a
 laptop/pc, configure the IP to:

IP Address 41.134.19.90
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.248
Default Gateway  41.134.19.89

 then connect the laptop/pc directly to the router and ping  41.134.19.89
 if  41.134.19.89 responds, try to ping an outside IP. if it does not work
 then
 you have to verify settings with your ISP.

 if all is ok plug your debian machine directly to the router. since you
 mentioned you
 assigned eth1 i am assuming you have 2 NICs. once you connect the server
 you need to
 check which eth has a link using mii-tool or ethtool. make sure eth1 has
 the link as you have
 configured the IP to eth1, once you have the link ping the gateway again
 and it should work.

 basically if the laptop/pc works but your debian does not, you are doing
 something wrong
 on your server. i'm thinking you are wrongly identifying which is eth0 and
 which is eth1.

 Hope this helps.


 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't have access to my Cisco router, only my ISP.
 When I ping for e.g 41.134.19.90 host, the destination is unreachable.

 I already contact them to configure the router from their are side

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, kuLa deb...@kulisz.net wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 07/06/11 19:28, Christian Simo wrote:
  Hi All

 Hi

  Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
  router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
  servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
  side.
 
  Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!
 
  Please if someone can have an ideas, I'll really appreciate

 I read all posts in this thread and saw that nobody actually asked one
 very important question:
 What routing setup you've got on the router/gateway.

 in your case I would use following setup

 - --router (with pool of your ext. IP's and port/IP
 forwarding)--servers
 (in LAN with IP's from one of restricted ranges ex 192.168.0.0/24)

 so traffic into you web server could looks like

 - --41.134.19.89:80--192.168.0.23:80

 it just depends from you what rules you'll going to set up

 - --

 |_|0|_|  |
 |_|_|0| Heghlu'Meh QaQ jajVam  |
 |0|0|0|  kuLa -  |

 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xC100B4CA
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN7wfqAAoJEOqHloDBALTKb0UH/jTKBZ+63Y1d9bRsMG3EQO5L
 gXfeb617X65iHBsafEGTumuHe6aRDncTzZBUCTtxxIhOOYbhWUF4xoSx+wktUAPh
 kVC2ZNZPMwq2hXPTYetYaZar5u/Vgu2K/jy2EraP2XsCThGiT4Io9+3pZX7AJujE
 Gf1PJxWXj66Qcv/WtCyDTZ8fnmaKI9Owfa4zThn38rg4IxP9X9hmAbxMUQyO/Ib9
 Piku5YOiTSr33zqmlrc92OcPLI7OW+qZW1i3sWQwTqEtH81pDUAg5UfILXt2lk+r
 Hyj6K8SzJPeZ1Iiuza5WxvmKwyyVQyyYq13uNt2q1DNVbgBsQcORMNzZ6VH1LuQ=
 =mzlK
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4def07ea.10...@kulisz.net






Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-09 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:42:38 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 Good Morning all
 eth0 it's not working so I'm using eth1!

No problem, but why is not working? Device malfunction?

 I asked to my ISP to open all ports at the moment!

Good! Well, sort of... 

You mean that all ports are now opened? Then you will have to setup a 
firewall on your facilities that drops the connections targeted to 
services you don't have enabled. This is very important because having 
all ports opened (like a DMZ) can be a security risk for your whole LAN.

 I also sent them a LAN IPs from 10.0.0.80 to 10.0.0.84 so that they can
 NAT to my public IPs 41.134.19.90 to 41.134.19.94: 

 10.0.0.80  41.134.19.90
 10.0.0.81  41.134.19.91
 10.0.0.82  41.134.19.92
 10.0.0.83  41.134.19.93
 10.0.0.84  41.134.19.94
 
 With this new configuration, I'm confusing if am gonna plug my machines
 Debian directly to the Cisco router or just on my LAN?

I'd say to your LAN because your LAN (switches and computers) should be 
connected _somehow_ (directly or indirectly) to the Cisco router, right?

So Debian server (eth1) that is going to host your DNS and web server it 
should be configured with all those IP addresses (10.0.0.80-84). How many 
network interfaces does the server have? You can assign an IP to each 
interface (should you have 5 ethernet devices) or you can use an ethernet 
alias (one physical interface sharing several IP addresses). Or you can 
assing just one IP to the server and redistribute the rest to different 
computers. 

You can do many things :-)

Why don't you write/draw a scheme of your network and send it to us? That 
will facilitate things a lot.
 
 since 10.0.0.2 was NAT to 41.134.19.89, Can I have a computer on my LAN
 with that IP, because before it was my default gateway my billion
 router?

I'm afraid that IP will be your default gateway for all of your computers 
and you can't have two devices in the same network layer configured with 
the same IP.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.09.12.03...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-08 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 08:58:23PM +0200, Christian Simo wrote:
 I wanna run DNS and Web Servers
 my ISP give to me a following IP:
 
 Router IP 41.134.19.89
 Network Mask 41.134.19.88 255.255.255.248
 Broadcast Address 41.134.19.95
 Network Address 41.134.19.88
 WAN IP Range 41.134.19.88/29
 
 and another public IP as follow allocated to me :
 41.134.19.90
 41.134.19.91
 41.134.19.92
 41.134.19.93
 41.134.19.94
 
 It is my first time to use a public IP on the private network

OK, You've been allocated a /29, this is 8 public IPs. As you note
above, the first IP is the network address (.88), and the last is the
broadcast address (.95). Other than this, the ISP expects your router to
be on the second IP (.89). This is typical, and is similar to what my
ISP gives me.

So, what I would suggest you do is configure your machine as follows:

 iface eth0 inet static
address 41.134.19.{90-94}  # Pick one of your five free IPs
netmask 255.255.255.248
network 41.134.19.88
broadcast 41.134.19.95
gateway 41.134.19.89

Next, and this is quite important, configure your router into Multi-IP
mode. Most broadband routers expect you to have one IP and so will NAT
anything that comes in. You will need to tell your router to pass
through all traffic for your /29 block. How you do this depends on your
router.


-- 
Paul Saunders


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-08 Thread Per Carlson
Hi

 after changed gateway to router IP (41.134.19.89), the command
 ifconfig it showing eth1 now but; ping doesn’t work

The use of eth1 suggests that you have more than one Ethernet-port
in your server (the first one usually is eth0). Are you sure you have
plugged the cable into the correct port? When it's fine and dandy the
port is shown as UP in ifconfig, like:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 52:54:00:e2:58:72
  inet addr:X.Y.168.78  Bcast:X.Y.168.127  Mask:255.255.255.192
  inet6 addr: 2001:X:Y:100:5054:ff:fee2:5872/64 Scope:Global
  inet6 addr: fe80::5054:ff:fee2:5872/64 Scope:Link
  inet6 addr: 2001:X:Y:100::78/64 Scope:Global
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 
  RX packets:60737 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:24256 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:40895939 (39.0 MiB)  TX bytes:3110522 (2.9 MiB)

-- 
Pelle

RFC1925, truth 11:
 Every old idea will be proposed again with a different name and
 a different presentation, regardless of whether it works.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/banlktinxv9p80pgajx5zmm_dqkpbztc9ax7pmbidtefzkha...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-08 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:28:32 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 On 6/7/11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)

 It is my first time to use a public IP on the private network

 I would first ask your provider to check if it is possible to have the
 configuration you want with the service they provide. You have to be
 sure those IPs are properly routed to your gateway facility (your
 modem/ router) with no restrictions (I mean, that all ports are
 unfiltered/ opened and the gateway facility is completely manegeable by
 you, not your ISP).

 Alright! before send them a mail, i want to be sure that the
 configuration that I was doing are correct?  Because really I'm
 confusing now!

I can't tell if your setup is okay because I would need more data of your 
networking layout and what hardware components are involved.

But basically what you need to tell your ISP is the same you are telling 
us, i.e., that you want to setup a DNS and web server over your assigned 
range of IPs. They will tell you what to do or in the event they directly 
manage the Cisco router, they'll open the required ports to redirect the 
traffic to your gateway.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.08.13.09...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Simo
I don't have access to my Cisco router, only my ISP.
When I ping for e.g 41.134.19.90 host, the destination is unreachable.

I already contact them to configure the router from their are side

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, kuLa deb...@kulisz.net wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 07/06/11 19:28, Christian Simo wrote:
  Hi All

 Hi

  Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
  router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
  servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
  side.
 
  Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!
 
  Please if someone can have an ideas, I'll really appreciate

 I read all posts in this thread and saw that nobody actually asked one
 very important question:
 What routing setup you've got on the router/gateway.

 in your case I would use following setup

 - --router (with pool of your ext. IP's and port/IP forwarding)--servers
 (in LAN with IP's from one of restricted ranges ex 192.168.0.0/24)

 so traffic into you web server could looks like

 - --41.134.19.89:80--192.168.0.23:80

 it just depends from you what rules you'll going to set up

 - --

 |_|0|_|  |
 |_|_|0| Heghlu'Meh QaQ jajVam  |
 |0|0|0|  kuLa -  |

 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xC100B4CA
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN7wfqAAoJEOqHloDBALTKb0UH/jTKBZ+63Y1d9bRsMG3EQO5L
 gXfeb617X65iHBsafEGTumuHe6aRDncTzZBUCTtxxIhOOYbhWUF4xoSx+wktUAPh
 kVC2ZNZPMwq2hXPTYetYaZar5u/Vgu2K/jy2EraP2XsCThGiT4Io9+3pZX7AJujE
 Gf1PJxWXj66Qcv/WtCyDTZ8fnmaKI9Owfa4zThn38rg4IxP9X9hmAbxMUQyO/Ib9
 Piku5YOiTSr33zqmlrc92OcPLI7OW+qZW1i3sWQwTqEtH81pDUAg5UfILXt2lk+r
 Hyj6K8SzJPeZ1Iiuza5WxvmKwyyVQyyYq13uNt2q1DNVbgBsQcORMNzZ6VH1LuQ=
 =mzlK
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4def07ea.10...@kulisz.net




Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-08 Thread nhadie ramos
i would suggest you troubleshoot your network first. if you have a
laptop/pc, configure the IP to:

   IP Address 41.134.19.90
   Subnet Mask 255.255.255.248
   Default Gateway  41.134.19.89

then connect the laptop/pc directly to the router and ping  41.134.19.89
if  41.134.19.89 responds, try to ping an outside IP. if it does not work
then
you have to verify settings with your ISP.

if all is ok plug your debian machine directly to the router. since you
mentioned you
assigned eth1 i am assuming you have 2 NICs. once you connect the server you
need to
check which eth has a link using mii-tool or ethtool. make sure eth1 has the
link as you have
configured the IP to eth1, once you have the link ping the gateway again and
it should work.

basically if the laptop/pc works but your debian does not, you are doing
something wrong
on your server. i'm thinking you are wrongly identifying which is eth0 and
which is eth1.

Hope this helps.


On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't have access to my Cisco router, only my ISP.
 When I ping for e.g 41.134.19.90 host, the destination is unreachable.

 I already contact them to configure the router from their are side

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, kuLa deb...@kulisz.net wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 07/06/11 19:28, Christian Simo wrote:
  Hi All

 Hi

  Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
  router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
  servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
  side.
 
  Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!
 
  Please if someone can have an ideas, I'll really appreciate

 I read all posts in this thread and saw that nobody actually asked one
 very important question:
 What routing setup you've got on the router/gateway.

 in your case I would use following setup

 - --router (with pool of your ext. IP's and port/IP forwarding)--servers
 (in LAN with IP's from one of restricted ranges ex 192.168.0.0/24)

 so traffic into you web server could looks like

 - --41.134.19.89:80--192.168.0.23:80

 it just depends from you what rules you'll going to set up

 - --

 |_|0|_|  |
 |_|_|0| Heghlu'Meh QaQ jajVam  |
 |0|0|0|  kuLa -  |

 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xC100B4CA
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN7wfqAAoJEOqHloDBALTKb0UH/jTKBZ+63Y1d9bRsMG3EQO5L
 gXfeb617X65iHBsafEGTumuHe6aRDncTzZBUCTtxxIhOOYbhWUF4xoSx+wktUAPh
 kVC2ZNZPMwq2hXPTYetYaZar5u/Vgu2K/jy2EraP2XsCThGiT4Io9+3pZX7AJujE
 Gf1PJxWXj66Qcv/WtCyDTZ8fnmaKI9Owfa4zThn38rg4IxP9X9hmAbxMUQyO/Ib9
 Piku5YOiTSr33zqmlrc92OcPLI7OW+qZW1i3sWQwTqEtH81pDUAg5UfILXt2lk+r
 Hyj6K8SzJPeZ1Iiuza5WxvmKwyyVQyyYq13uNt2q1DNVbgBsQcORMNzZ6VH1LuQ=
 =mzlK
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4def07ea.10...@kulisz.net





Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Nuno Magalhães
What did you try?
And where are those ip adresses connected to? The router? Individual
servers? A single link?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimkLk=jjzi9xdsw_jnyhn1nh2n...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/07/11 at 08:28pm, Christian Simo wrote:
 Hi All
 
 Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
 router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
 servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
 side.
 
 Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!

Please provide some details. Do you receive error messages? What do your 
interfaces files look like?
What's the output from ping attempts, netstat -rn, ifconfig?

-- 
Liam


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Christian Simo
Thank you for your response,
this is my /etc/network/interfaces
iface eth1 inet static
address 41.134.19.90
netmask 255.255.255.248
broadcast 41.134.19.95
gateway 10.0.0.2

the above IP addresses are set up on one of my computer on my LAN

The IP address 41.134.19.89 is in my cisco router




On 6/7/11, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
 What did you try?
 And where are those ip adresses connected to? The router? Individual
 servers? A single link?


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive:
 http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimkLk=jjzi9xdsw_jnyhn1nh2n...@mail.gmail.com




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/banlktimew6dk1-prsuk+4wpxszyktig...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:28:23 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
 router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
 servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
 side.
 
 Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!

Those configurations tend to be very ISP specific.

We also get some static IPs from ourISP and have configured it to be 
public and accesable from Internet using the FTTH router capabilities 
(nated routing) but YMMV *a lot*.

The more details you provide about your devices and setup (what kind of 
services do you want to be routed to your local lan, e.g., a web server, 
e-mail server...?), the better.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.18.46...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Nuno Magalhães
2011/6/7 Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com:
 iface eth1 inet static
    address 41.134.19.90
    netmask 255.255.255.248
    broadcast 41.134.19.95
    gateway 10.0.0.2

 the above IP addresses are set up on one of my computer on my LAN

Isn't this a node in a LAN, with a public IP address? You either have
very weird router configurations or that node is receiving nothing.
The public IPs should be in devices facing the internet, not in LAN
devices.

-- 
Mars 2 Stay!
http://xkcd.com/801/
/etc


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/banlktikeocp8k4+ycgpuou8pt3n7_s7...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Christian Simo
I wanna run DNS and Web Servers
my ISP give to me a following IP:

Router IP 41.134.19.89
Network Mask 41.134.19.88 255.255.255.248
Broadcast Address 41.134.19.95
Network Address 41.134.19.88
WAN IP Range 41.134.19.88/29

and another public IP as follow allocated to me :
41.134.19.90
41.134.19.91
41.134.19.92
41.134.19.93
41.134.19.94

It is my first time to use a public IP on the private network



On 6/7/11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:28:23 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
 router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
 servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
 side.

 Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!

 Those configurations tend to be very ISP specific.

 We also get some static IPs from ourISP and have configured it to be
 public and accesable from Internet using the FTTH router capabilities
 (nated routing) but YMMV *a lot*.

 The more details you provide about your devices and setup (what kind of
 services do you want to be routed to your local lan, e.g., a web server,
 e-mail server...?), the better.

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.18.46...@gmail.com




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/banlktikd3m5htwz1f0_zeoce9yp7bzk...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Christian Simo
On 6/7/11, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
 2011/6/7 Christian Simo csim...@gmail.com:
 iface eth1 inet static
address 41.134.19.90
netmask 255.255.255.248
broadcast 41.134.19.95
gateway 10.0.0.2

 the above IP addresses are set up on one of my computer on my LAN

 Isn't this a node in a LAN, with a public IP address? You either have
 very weird router configurations or that node is receiving nothing.
 The public IPs should be in devices facing the internet, not in LAN
 devices

So It's meaning that I should run for example my DNS server  on the LAN?
What about those another IPs public  assigned to me?

It make me confuse a lot!
 --
 Mars 2 Stay!
 http://xkcd.com/801/
 /etc


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive:
 http://lists.debian.org/banlktikeocp8k4+ycgpuou8pt3n7_s7...@mail.gmail.com




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/banlktindum_lgocng1gj-gmn35cezfd...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/07/11 at 08:39pm, Christian Simo wrote:
 Thank you for your response,
 this is my /etc/network/interfaces
 iface eth1 inet static
 address 41.134.19.90
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 broadcast 41.134.19.95
 gateway 10.0.0.2

Change 'gateway' to be your router IP. Let us know what happens.

-- 
Liam


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Christian Simo
On 6/7/11, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/07/11 at 08:39pm, Christian Simo wrote:
 Thank you for your response,
 this is my /etc/network/interfaces
 iface eth1 inet static
 address 41.134.19.90
 netmask 255.255.255.248
 broadcast 41.134.19.95
 gateway 10.0.0.2

 Change 'gateway' to be your router IP. Let us know what happens.

after changed gateway to router IP (41.134.19.89), the command
ifconfig it showing eth1 now but; ping doesn’t work


 --
 Liam



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=yNTg_62=xyvik8kwn9ut3hb+...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:58:23 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:
 
 On 6/7/11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)

 The more details you provide about your devices and setup (what kind of
 services do you want to be routed to your local lan, e.g., a web
 server, e-mail server...?), the better.

 I wanna run DNS and Web Servers
 my ISP give to me a following IP:
 
 Router IP 41.134.19.89
 Network Mask 41.134.19.88 255.255.255.248 
 Broadcast Address 41.134.19.95
 Network Address 41.134.19.88
 WAN IP Range 41.134.19.88/29
 
 and another public IP as follow allocated to me : 
 41.134.19.90
 41.134.19.91
 41.134.19.92
 41.134.19.93
 41.134.19.94

Those IPs seem to be from Mweb ISP. Do you have this plan with a Cisco 
router?

http://www.mweb.co.za/productspricing/Portals/19/Pdf/ADSL%20Uncapped30052011.pdf
 
 It is my first time to use a public IP on the private network

I would first ask your provider to check if it is possible to have the 
configuration you want with the service they provide. You have to be sure 
those IPs are properly routed to your gateway facility (your modem/
router) with no restrictions (I mean, that all ports are unfiltered/
opened and the gateway facility is completely manegeable by you, not your 
ISP).

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.19.17...@gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread Christian Simo
On 6/7/11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:58:23 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

 On 6/7/11, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 (...)

 The more details you provide about your devices and setup (what kind of
 services do you want to be routed to your local lan, e.g., a web
 server, e-mail server...?), the better.

 I wanna run DNS and Web Servers
 my ISP give to me a following IP:

 Router IP 41.134.19.89
 Network Mask 41.134.19.88 255.255.255.248
 Broadcast Address 41.134.19.95
 Network Address 41.134.19.88
 WAN IP Range 41.134.19.88/29

 and another public IP as follow allocated to me :
 41.134.19.90
 41.134.19.91
 41.134.19.92
 41.134.19.93
 41.134.19.94

 Those IPs seem to be from Mweb ISP. Do you have this plan with a Cisco
 router?

Yeah! there are from Mweb ISP. It is a 4Mb speed with Cisco router.

there was given me details part by part I mean after many upset mail
send to them.


 http://www.mweb.co.za/productspricing/Portals/19/Pdf/ADSL%20Uncapped30052011.pdf

 It is my first time to use a public IP on the private network

 I would first ask your provider to check if it is possible to have the
 configuration you want with the service they provide. You have to be sure
 those IPs are properly routed to your gateway facility (your modem/
 router) with no restrictions (I mean, that all ports are unfiltered/
 opened and the gateway facility is completely manegeable by you, not your
 ISP).

Alright! before send them a mail, i want to be sure that the
configuration that I was doing are correct?  Because really I'm
confusing now!

 Greetings,

 --
 Camaleón


 --
 To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
 with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
 listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.19.17...@gmail.com




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: 
http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTiknPBWCe=vtzxhpmmruj0iqaps...@mail.gmail.com



Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-07 Thread kuLa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 07/06/11 19:28, Christian Simo wrote:
 Hi All

Hi

 Please I got an internet with 6 fixed IP addresses, one on my cisco
 router and another 5 that I want to use them as  IP addresses for my
 servers on my LAN so that those servers can be accessible on internet
 side.
 
 Want I tried to configure, it don't connect to internet!
 
 Please if someone can have an ideas, I'll really appreciate

I read all posts in this thread and saw that nobody actually asked one
very important question:
What routing setup you've got on the router/gateway.

in your case I would use following setup

- --router (with pool of your ext. IP's and port/IP forwarding)--servers
(in LAN with IP's from one of restricted ranges ex 192.168.0.0/24)

so traffic into you web server could looks like

- --41.134.19.89:80--192.168.0.23:80

it just depends from you what rules you'll going to set up

- -- 

|_|0|_|  |
|_|_|0| Heghlu'Meh QaQ jajVam  |
|0|0|0|  kuLa -  |

gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xC100B4CA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN7wfqAAoJEOqHloDBALTKb0UH/jTKBZ+63Y1d9bRsMG3EQO5L
gXfeb617X65iHBsafEGTumuHe6aRDncTzZBUCTtxxIhOOYbhWUF4xoSx+wktUAPh
kVC2ZNZPMwq2hXPTYetYaZar5u/Vgu2K/jy2EraP2XsCThGiT4Io9+3pZX7AJujE
Gf1PJxWXj66Qcv/WtCyDTZ8fnmaKI9Owfa4zThn38rg4IxP9X9hmAbxMUQyO/Ib9
Piku5YOiTSr33zqmlrc92OcPLI7OW+qZW1i3sWQwTqEtH81pDUAg5UfILXt2lk+r
Hyj6K8SzJPeZ1Iiuza5WxvmKwyyVQyyYq13uNt2q1DNVbgBsQcORMNzZ6VH1LuQ=
=mzlK
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4def07ea.10...@kulisz.net