Re: Sid random crash with no clue in log files
Sébastien Kalt writes: Hello, I'm having random crashes on my ASUS PN50 mini PC : sometimes it's while [...] When it crashes, the system seems to be not responding, I can move the mouse, but it doesn't click, and then the screen becomes blank. I need to shut down the mini PC pushing the power button for a long time. [...] Hello, common things to test in case of random crashes are hardware-related issues like cooling (CPU temperatures?), power supply and RAM (memtest86+). Another thing to debug is: While the system is in the described crash state, you can still move the mouse -- this means some software on the system remains running despite not being accessible through GUI. An interesting step could be to attempt a login through SSH (install openssh-server if not already there to enable SSH access). From that SSH login you might be able to call a tool like `htop` to check the state of the system and stop any rouge processes etc. I used to have similar types of crashes (the screen never went black, but the mouse cursor would move with any further inputs like klicks and key presses ignored) on a system with VirtualBox and the NVidia proprietary GPU driver (must have been Debian 7 or 8 IIRC). If either VirtualBox or NVidia graphics driver were uninstalled, it would never crash that way... In any case, logging in through SSH, I could see that the Xorg process was at 100% CPU. Killing it caused the screen to go black. Attempting to re-start would fail in some way, but afterwards a login from the local system would again be possible and the hard reset could be avoided... HTH Linux-Fan öö pgpIWNhCGmk3b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sid random crash with no clue in log files
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:09:33 +0100 Sébastien Kalt wrote: > I'm having random crashes on my ASUS PN50 mini PC : sometimes it's > while copying large files through network, sometimes when watching a > youtube video, sometimes juste using LibreOffice, or going nothing ... > Do you have any suggestions to find what might be causing this ? I suspect something, likely RAM, isn't properly seated. I would: remove and re-seat any socketed ICs, and any daughter boards. Replug all cables. Install and run memtest86 for several hours. If you have played with hardware settings in the BIOS, set them back to factory values. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Sid random crash with no clue in log files
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 04:09:33PM +0100, Sébastien Kalt wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having random crashes on my ASUS PN50 mini PC : sometimes it's while > copying large files through network, sometimes when watching a youtube > video, sometimes juste using LibreOffice, or going nothing ... > > I can't manage to have a pattern for thoses craches. Today it craches 4 > times, the last week it didn't crash. > > I encoded a video with 100 % CPU charge during one hour and it didn't crash. > > When I look at the log files, I see nothing : syslog, messages, daemon.log, > kern.log, Xorg.0.log.old, dmesg > > When it crashes, the system seems to be not responding, I can move the > mouse, but it doesn't click, and then the screen becomes blank. I need to > shut down the mini PC pushing the power button for a long time. > > When I restart it, I don't see anything during the reboot (well, it's quite > fast, so I might miss something). > > Do you have any suggestions to find what might be causing this ? If the mouse still moves, I'd look first into software. Try to log into your machine either with a Linux console (CTRL-ALT+F1 or some other function key) or via ssh, as linux fan suggests. Try to locate some central gui program which might be misbehaving and kill it (gnome-panel or some such). If it were a hardware problem, the machine would most probably freeze completely or at least show non-repeatable symptoms. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature
RE: Sid random crash with no clue in log files
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