Re: Skipstone has stopped working

2001-10-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Hans Steinraht wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> While using Skipstone it crashed.
> After that I can't get it to startup again.
> 
> I did a apt-get remove --purge skipstone and mozilla-browser, followed with a 
> new install, but the only what Skipstone says while starting it is a little 
> spinning of my harddisk and further nothing.
> 
> Does anyone has an idea how I ca fix this.

  problem might be in corrupted config files in your home directory. try
as different user or move the config file directory/file...

erik



Re: Skipstone has stopped working

2001-10-16 Thread Hans Steinraht
I'm now running Mozilla 0.9.5 (because of my apt-get after apt-get remove 
-purge), but the problem started with the older version of Mozilla.
So, I'm not sure that the cause of this is Mozilla 0.9.5.

I'm first trying to trace what it could be, when I have the idea that it has 
something to do with Mozilla I file a report.

Anyway thanks,
Hans


On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:27:45PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 21:06:48 +, Hans Steinraht wrote:
> > I did a apt-get remove --purge skipstone and mozilla-browser, followed
> > with a new install, but the only what Skipstone says while starting it is
> > a little spinning of my harddisk and further nothing.
> 
> A new mozilla (0.9.5) has recently become part of unstable. Quite likely
> Skipstone, like Galeon, needs to be rebuilt against that version of mozilla,
> and could do with tighter dependencies on mozilla. Please file a bug report.
> 
> HTH,
> Ray
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Re: Skipstone has stopped working

2001-10-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 21:06:48 +, Hans Steinraht wrote:
> I did a apt-get remove --purge skipstone and mozilla-browser, followed
> with a new install, but the only what Skipstone says while starting it is
> a little spinning of my harddisk and further nothing.

A new mozilla (0.9.5) has recently become part of unstable. Quite likely
Skipstone, like Galeon, needs to be rebuilt against that version of mozilla,
and could do with tighter dependencies on mozilla. Please file a bug report.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-23 Thread kmself
on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 05:50:52PM +, Pollywog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:04:05 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:

> >  Note that while I *really* like the concepts, I find them less usable at
> >  present than Netscape.

> Exactly, it is the same with Opera.  I looks as though it will be
> superior to Netscape, but it still has some features (like plugins)
> missing.

This is a feature, not a bug.

Plugins ***SUCK***.

I want a browser.  Not some lame-ass, fucked-up excuse for channelling
crap to my desktop.  You want to launch some third-party app, ***ASK***
me about it.  Flash sucks.  Embedded Acroread sucks.  Embedded
Word/Excel/ObMSFTCrudApp sucks.  Spawn shit on request.  Sure.  Cram it
down my throat.  Fuck you (not you, PWog, the website).

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-23 Thread Pollywog

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:04:05 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:

>  > 
>  > Well, I installed it and it freaked out my WM. A window kept coming
>  > up very rapidly, which read "Crash Recovery".
>  > I had to restart X to get rid of it.  I was dead in the water.
>  
>  Skipstone or Galeon?  IIRC, they both have crash recovery.
>  
>  I had the problem of the infinite restart a few months back, on one of
>  my systems, don't recall what the problem was.  May have been a stale
>  dot-directory -- both browsers are pretty picky about having old configs
>  lying around.  Was this an upgrade?

No, I had never used it before (Skipstone), so I tried it after it
was mentioned on this thread.

>  
>  Try deleting .skipstone or .galeon, as appropriate, and attempting to
>  start again.  If that doesn't work, try:
>  
>$ strace $BROWSER
>  
>  (for appropriate value) and see if you can't work out where things get
>  funky.
I will try that.

>  
>  Note that while I *really* like the concepts, I find them less usable at
>  present than Netscape.
Exactly, it is the same with Opera.  I looks as though it will be
superior to Netscape, but it still has some features (like plugins)
missing.

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-23 Thread Jared Johnson
hi,

i maintain some unofficial galeon packages; however, as of late, there have 
been quite a few problems which i'm now recovering from with the archive they 
are mirrored on and the macine they're built on and so forth.  drop me an email 
if you'd like me to let you know when the sid packages are available again and 
where to get them.  I'm also doing nightly CVS snapshot debs, which are also 
anavailable at the moment.  Once I finally get the sid stuff fixed, I'll be 
trying to backport the packages to potato (with mozilla 0.7 probably).  If you 
want to know about that, again, drop me an email, but it'll be awhile before i 
can get around to this.

cheers,

Jared Johnson
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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-23 Thread kmself
on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 02:45:39AM +, Pollywog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:56:35 + (UTC), Pollywog said:
> 
> > 
> >  On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:51:33 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:
> >  
> >  >  
> >  >  Yeah.  I'm running Woody on my desktop, thought I'd stick to Potato for
> >  >  the laptop.  So I've got Galeon and Skipstone on the desktop.  Have to
> >  >  say I like the idea more than the execution so far, but they're both
> >  >  sweet browsers.
> >  
> 
> oic, like skipping stones across a pond.
> 
> Well, I installed it and it freaked out my WM.A window kept coming
> up very rapidly, which read "Crash Recovery".
> I had to restart X to get rid of it.  I was dead in the water.

Skipstone or Galeon?  IIRC, they both have crash recovery.

I had the problem of the infinite restart a few months back, on one of
my systems, don't recall what the problem was.  May have been a stale
dot-directory -- both browsers are pretty picky about having old configs
lying around.  Was this an upgrade?

Try deleting .skipstone or .galeon, as appropriate, and attempting to
start again.  If that doesn't work, try:

  $ strace $BROWSER

(for appropriate value) and see if you can't work out where things get
funky.

Note that while I *really* like the concepts, I find them less usable at
present than Netscape.

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-22 Thread Pollywog

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:34:59 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:

> on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:56:35AM +, Pollywog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>  > 
>  > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:51:33 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:
>  > 
>  > >  
>  > >  Yeah.  I'm running Woody on my desktop, thought I'd stick to Potato for
>  > >  the laptop.  So I've got Galeon and Skipstone on the desktop.  Have to
>  > >  say I like the idea more than the execution so far, but they're both
>  > >  sweet browsers.
>  > 
>  > I have not tried Skipstone, but Opera runs faster than Galeon on my
>  > laptop.
>  
>  I wasn't aware that Opera was free software 

It isn't but I read somewhere that it will be.  We will have to wait
and see, but I think I am going to buy a copy when the final version
comes out.  I am becoming increasingly disappointed with Netscape. 
Konqueror is pretty good but won't run well on my laptop.

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-22 Thread Pollywog

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:56:35 + (UTC), Pollywog said:

> 
>  On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:51:33 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:
>  
>  >  
>  >  Yeah.  I'm running Woody on my desktop, thought I'd stick to Potato for
>  >  the laptop.  So I've got Galeon and Skipstone on the desktop.  Have to
>  >  say I like the idea more than the execution so far, but they're both
>  >  sweet browsers.
>  

oic, like skipping stones across a pond.

Well, I installed it and it freaked out my WM.  A window kept coming
up very rapidly, which read "Crash Recovery".
I had to restart X to get rid of it.  I was dead in the water.

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-22 Thread kmself
on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:56:35AM +, Pollywog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:51:33 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:
> 
> >  
> >  Yeah.  I'm running Woody on my desktop, thought I'd stick to Potato for
> >  the laptop.  So I've got Galeon and Skipstone on the desktop.  Have to
> >  say I like the idea more than the execution so far, but they're both
> >  sweet browsers.
> 
> I have not tried Skipstone, but Opera runs faster than Galeon on my
> laptop.

I wasn't aware that Opera was free software 

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-22 Thread Pollywog

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:51:33 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:

>  
>  Yeah.  I'm running Woody on my desktop, thought I'd stick to Potato for
>  the laptop.  So I've got Galeon and Skipstone on the desktop.  Have to
>  say I like the idea more than the execution so far, but they're both
>  sweet browsers.

I have not tried Skipstone, but Opera runs faster than Galeon on my
laptop.

--
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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-22 Thread kmself
on Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:26:12PM +1100, Cyrus Patel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> kmself@ix.netcom.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > See subject.  Any way to install one, the other, or both, under Potato?
> > I don't find them listed with available packages.
> > 
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> >  What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?   There is no K5 cabal
> >   http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
> 
> 
> Hello Karsten,
> 
> Both Skipstone and Galeon are under heavy development and I would 
> recommend compiling them from sources.
> 
> First get the sources - galeon is at galeon.sourceforge.net and
> skipstone is at muhri.net/skipstone. Install mozilla and mozilla-dev
> from potato and before compiling galeon make sure to configure it using:
> 
> --with-mozilla-includes=/usr/include/mozilla  and
> --with-mozilla-libs=/usr/lib/mozilla
> 
> Hope this helps,

Thanks.

> Cyrus
> 
> PS Oh BTW, skipstone is in woody.

Yeah.  I'm running Woody on my desktop, thought I'd stick to Potato for
the laptop.  So I've got Galeon and Skipstone on the desktop.  Have to
say I like the idea more than the execution so far, but they're both
sweet browsers.

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Re: Skipstone, Galeon, in potato?

2001-01-22 Thread Cyrus Patel

Hello Karsten,

Both Skipstone and Galeon are under heavy development and I would 
recommend compiling them from sources.

First get the sources - galeon is at galeon.sourceforge.net and
skipstone is at muhri.net/skipstone. Install mozilla and mozilla-dev
from potato and before compiling galeon make sure to configure it using:

--with-mozilla-includes=/usr/include/mozillaand
--with-mozilla-libs=/usr/lib/mozilla

Hope this helps,

Cyrus

PS Oh BTW, skipstone is in woody.

kmself@ix.netcom.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> See subject.  Any way to install one, the other, or both, under Potato?
> I don't find them listed with available packages.
> 
> -- 
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>   http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org

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Re: Skipstone [was: Netscape 6.0]

2000-11-18 Thread Daniel Borgmann
On Saturday 18 November 2000 20:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> |> i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it. but
> |> unfortunatly there is only a woody version :( is there any way to get
> |> skipstone for a potato system?
>
> I have Skipstone running fine on my potato system, and I really like
> it.
>
> I installed Mozilla from Debian (M18-3 in stable), and then I
> installed the pre-compiled binary available at the Skipstone web-site
> (skipstone-0.6.1-bin) in /usr/local. I've not had any problems so far.
>
> I needed this in .bash_profile:
>
> export MOZILLA_5_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla
>
> so that skipstone knew where to look for the parts of Mozilla that it
> uses.

thx it's working and great! 
but i can start it only in a terminal, not via "alt+F2". what's that? i run 
the terminal as the same user.. this is weird.



Re: Skipstone [was: Netscape 6.0]

2000-11-18 Thread mcclosk

|> i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it. but
|> unfortunatly there is only a woody version :( is there any way to get
|> skipstone for a potato system?

I have Skipstone running fine on my potato system, and I really like
it.

I installed Mozilla from Debian (M18-3 in stable), and then I
installed the pre-compiled binary available at the Skipstone web-site
(skipstone-0.6.1-bin) in /usr/local. I've not had any problems so far.

I needed this in .bash_profile:

export MOZILLA_5_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla

so that skipstone knew where to look for the parts of Mozilla that it
uses.

Jim



Re: Skipstone

2000-09-08 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
> I'm interested in trying out skipstone (an alternative to galeon that
> is currently packaged in woody), but whenever I run it I get:
> 
> ** CRITICAL **: file ../../../../../embedding/browser/gtk/src/
> gtkmozembed.cpp: line 298 (void gtk_moz_embed_init(GtkMozEmbed *)): 
> assertion `retval == TRUE' failed.
> Segmentation fault

There's a fix in the 0.2-2 package, which is currently in incoming
(at least it works for me)

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