Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Memnon Anon
Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com writes:

 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

,[ aptitude show fbreader ]
| FBReader is an e-book reader.
| 
| Main features:
| 
|  * supports several open e-book formats: fb2, html, chm, plucker,
|palmdoc, ztxt, tcr (psion text), rtf, oeb, openreader, non-DRM'ed
|mobipocket, plain text, epub
|  * reads directly from tar, zip, gzip, bzip2 archives (you can have
|several books in one archive)
|  * supports a structured view of your e-book collection
|  * automatically determines encodings
|  * automatically generates a table of contents
|  * keeps the last open book and the last read positions for all open books
|between runs
|  * automatic hyphenation (patterns for several languages are included)
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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Teemu Likonen
On 2009-12-29 22:24 (+0200), Dotan Cohen wrote:

 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

One possibility is to convert the book to LaTeX. It's often as simple as
adding basic LaTeX headers and maybe \section*{} commands for chapters.
Then you can get a nice PDF book.

I just made a PDF version of Virginia Woolf's Orlando. :-)

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 I use to print the HTML page into PDF and then open the file with Evince
 (or any PDF reader). The output file usually keeps a very good format for
 computer display reading, I mean, margins and text structure.


I used Open Office to export to PDF, but then the document is too
rigid. I cannot change the font size or face, for instance. Also, the
page breaks are annoying, even in continuous mode.

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 I recall a decent little ebook reader in the ubuntu UNR release.  It
 allowed you to rotate the page 90 degrees on screen so you could hold a
 netbook in your hand like a real book and have a realistic aspect ratio.
 You could probably get the source from the ubuntu/canonical
 repositories?


Do you remember the app's name?

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

 vi :-)


I know that you are kidding, but Kate in VIM mode with a large Tahoma
font is great. It supports everything that I want in an ebook reader:
screens, pages, bookmarks... Thanks!

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 What's wrong with gutenbrowser?

I don't know! I've never heard of it until now!

It seems to have a problem searching the folders that I configure it
here, and it cannot reach the online servers as well. I will try to
fix that and see how good it is. Thanks!

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/12/30 Mark Allums m...@allums.com:
 On 12/29/2009 2:24 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

 Thanks.



 Calibre



Thanks, I just tried Calibre. It does not have an ebook reader, just
an organizer for different devices. But it will come in handy if I
ever buy that Foxit Reader. Thanks!

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 ,[ aptitude show fbreader ]
 | FBReader is an e-book reader.
 |
 | Main features:
 |
 |  * supports several open e-book formats: fb2, html, chm, plucker,
 |    palmdoc, ztxt, tcr (psion text), rtf, oeb, openreader, non-DRM'ed
 |    mobipocket, plain text, epub
 |  * reads directly from tar, zip, gzip, bzip2 archives (you can have
 |    several books in one archive)
 |  * supports a structured view of your e-book collection
 |  * automatically determines encodings
 |  * automatically generates a table of contents
 |  * keeps the last open book and the last read positions for all open books
 |    between runs
 |  * automatic hyphenation (patterns for several languages are included)
 `


Thanks. The program is a bit lacking as it does not support bookmarks,
and annoying as search terms stay highlighted (I could find no way to
unhighlight them). The options menu and other aspects seem poorly
designed, as well.

I suppose that this is an adequate software, but I will look for
something better. Thanks.

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/12/30 Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi:
 On 2009-12-29 22:24 (+0200), Dotan Cohen wrote:

 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

 One possibility is to convert the book to LaTeX. It's often as simple as
 adding basic LaTeX headers and maybe \section*{} commands for chapters.
 Then you can get a nice PDF book.

 I just made a PDF version of Virginia Woolf's Orlando. :-)


I can export to PDF easily enough from OOo, but PDF has several
drawbacks that I mentioned in a previous post (just a minute ago,
after you posted). Thanks for the idea, though.


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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:46:11 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 I use to print the HTML page into PDF and then open the file with
 Evince (or any PDF reader). The output file usually keeps a very good
 format for computer display reading, I mean, margins and text
 structure.


 I used Open Office to export to PDF, but then the document is too rigid.
 I cannot change the font size or face, for instance. Also, the page
 breaks are annoying, even in continuous mode.

PDF is a presentation file type. 

Not much editing allowed on it (you need a good PDF editor to edit these 
kind of files, not easily available for Linux), but it's perfect  for  
reading.

Any formatting has to be done *before* converting into PDF (so you can 
change font size or face inside OOo).

Reading a PDF file with 2 openned pages at time within 24'' display is a 
gratifying experience O:-)

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Nick Daly
Dotan Cohen writes:
 Thanks. The program is a bit lacking as it does not support
 bookmarks, and annoying as search terms stay highlighted

I may inadvertently start a flamewar, but Emacs has wonderful
bookmarking support.  ``C-x r m`` to bookmark any *line* in any
readable file (including PDFs, as of Emacs 23) and ``C-x r l`` to list
all your saved bookmarks.  I use it for reading just about everything
and am currently making my way through the Dargonzine archives this
way.

Of course, it falls down pretty badly in the UI department, they're
determined to do everything their (the Emacs) way, and that takes
some getting used to.

HTH,
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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Mark Allums

On 12/30/2009 9:58 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

2009/12/30 Mark Allumsm...@allums.com:

On 12/29/2009 2:24 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:


What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

Thanks.




Calibre




Thanks, I just tried Calibre. It does not have an ebook reader, just
an organizer for different devices. But it will come in handy if I
ever buy that Foxit Reader. Thanks!



My mistake.  However, it is a good library organizer, so I think it is 
worth looking at.  (I installed it for my Kindle.)


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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 PDF is a presentation file type.

 Not much editing allowed on it (you need a good PDF editor to edit these
 kind of files, not easily available for Linux), but it's perfect  for
 reading.


I understand this. However, when reading I like to adjust the fonts
and colours based on factors such as bright or dim environment. I also
need to adjust the font size as my eyes tire. Therefore PDF does not
fit me.


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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 I may inadvertently start a flamewar, but Emacs has wonderful
 bookmarking support.  ``C-x r m`` to bookmark any *line* in any
 readable file (including PDFs, as of Emacs 23) and ``C-x r l`` to list
 all your saved bookmarks.  I use it for reading just about everything
 and am currently making my way through the Dargonzine archives this
 way.


VIM does, too, and I am at least familiar enough with it to use it as
a book reader. It's actually pretty good!


 Of course, it falls down pretty badly in the UI department, they're
 determined to do everything their (the Emacs) way, and that takes
 some getting used to.


I hear Emacs has a fairly decent text editor in there, no?


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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 Thanks, I just tried Calibre. It does not have an ebook reader, just
 an organizer for different devices. But it will come in handy if I
 ever buy that Foxit Reader. Thanks!


 My mistake.  However, it is a good library organizer, so I think it is worth
 looking at.  (I installed it for my Kindle.)


Yes, I will be keeping it handy for when I finally acquire an eink
device. Thanks.

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread Glenn English

On Dec 29, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

vi :-)

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread shampavman.cg

Glenn English wrote:

On Dec 29, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

  

What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?



vi :-)

  

I would actually agree, but feels a little cumbersome i guess..
you can try gedit ;-)

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:24:28 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
 opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

I use to print the HTML page into PDF and then open the file with Evince 
(or any PDF reader). The output file usually keeps a very good format for 
computer display reading, I mean, margins and text structure.

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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread Willie


On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:36 +0530, shampavman.cg
shampavman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Glenn English wrote:
  On Dec 29, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 

  What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
  opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?
  
 
  vi :-)
 

 I would actually agree, but feels a little cumbersome i guess..
 you can try gedit ;-)
 
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I recall a decent little ebook reader in the ubuntu UNR release.  It
allowed you to rotate the page 90 degrees on screen so you could hold a
netbook in your hand like a real book and have a realistic aspect ratio.
You could probably get the source from the ubuntu/canonical
repositories?


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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread John Hasler
What's wrong with gutenbrowser?
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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread Mark Allums

On 12/29/2009 2:24 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

What software is recommended for reading plaintext ebooks? I have been
opening the documents in Firefox, but maybe there is something better?

Thanks.




Calibre



Binary install

calibre has a binary installer that has been tested on a number of 
distributions on both 32-bit and 64-bit x86 machines. To install, you 
may need to make sure your system has python ≥ 2.6. Copy paste the 
following command into a terminal as superuser* and press Enter:


# python -c import urllib2;
exec urllib2.urlopen(
'http://status.calibre-ebook.com/linux_installer'
).read(); main()

(The above should be all on a single line)


Note
o You need GLIBC 2.10 or higher to run versions greater than 0.6.29. If 
you receive an error about GLIBC you can downgrade to an older version 
by getting the .tar.bz2 file for your architecture (32bit or 64bit) from 
sourceforge. Then delete the contents of /opt/calibre and extract the 
downloaded .tar.bz2 file into /opt/calibre.
o When running the command line utilities, they will segfault after 
completion. This can be ignored.
o You must have xdg-utils installed on your system before running the 
installer.



Source install

Make sure your system has python ≥ 2.6
Install the various dependencies listed below
Run the following commands in a terminal:

$ wget -O- http://status.calibre-ebook.com/dist/src | tar xvz
$ cd calibre*
As superuser*:
# python setup.py install

Note that if your distribution does not have a correctly compiled 
libunrar.so, ${app} will not support rar files. In order to compile 
${app} successfully poppler headers must include XPdf headers. That is, 
poppler must have been configured with --enable-xpdf-headers. Also, some 
distributions have buggy libpng headers.


See:

http://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux



They claim it's been tested on Debian.  I had minor difficulties, mainly 
with Python 2.6.1.


Mark Allums



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Re: Software suggestion: reading Guttenberg plaintext ebooks

2009-12-29 Thread Mark Allums

Oh, I forgot,  Calibre is in Sid.

Try Calibre, if you can use Sid.  Or manually install it, per my 
previous post.


Mark Allums



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